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As the title says, who would likely win in a fight between these two characters?
The only 100% set in stone condition is that both are alone. Base your answer on what situations each is likely to win in, given a wide array of variables.
Captain Batman. The illegitimate son of the caped crusader and the super-soldier serum user.
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SilverMK2 wrote: If Batman can repeatedly beat the hell out of superman, I am sure he can kick Captain America back into the pages of history
I don't think Batman has pulled that off without kryptonite... to which Captain America is invulnerable. I could be wrong, though. Anyone got a source for a fight without it?
SilverMK2 wrote: If Batman can repeatedly beat the hell out of superman, I am sure he can kick Captain America back into the pages of history
I don't think Batman has pulled that off without kryptonite... to which Captain America is invulnerable. I could be wrong, though. Anyone got a source for a fight without it?
The point being Batman always has a plan, and always researches how to win. Either way, Captain America is essentially just a less invulnerable Hulk. Hit him with enough stuff and he will go down. Hell, he chokes on smoke and while his metabolism and "healing factor" can handle things like alcohol quickly, nerve toxins and so on would almost certainly kill him, as would things like acid...
SilverMK2 wrote: If Batman can repeatedly beat the hell out of superman, I am sure he can kick Captain America back into the pages of history
I don't think Batman has pulled that off without kryptonite... to which Captain America is invulnerable. I could be wrong, though. Anyone got a source for a fight without it?
The point being Batman always has a plan, and always researches how to win. Either way, Captain America is essentially just a less invulnerable Hulk. Hit him with enough stuff and he will go down. Hell, he chokes on smoke and while his metabolism and "healing factor" can handle things like alcohol quickly, nerve toxins and so on would almost certainly kill him, as would things like acid...
Well... if it's a first fight, Batman might not have had time to prepare. Captain is also like a faster bane, with an invincible shield... or Deathstroke... or a Lady Shiva who has been modified to levels past human maximum... or a Mutant Leader or a Bronze Tiger with super serum.
It seems worth repeating that at least two normal humans have wiped the floor with Batman.
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Round 1, Bat loses, but as soon as it's apparent what the outcome will be, focuses all his attention on 'learning' Cap, how he moves, how he fights, what makes him tick. Bat goes home, bruised and bloodied, Cap wins.
Round 2: what do you mean Round 2? Batman will study Cap's habits and patterns, jump him when he's most vulnerable and incapacitate him with specifically designed tech or toxin. At that point, he takes the shield, sprays it black, and now the criminals of Gotham are in real trouble...
In a straight forward fight, ala a boxing ring, Captain America beats Batman every time without breaking a sweat. Super soldier serum beats hard core ninja training every time.
Now if it's urban combat in a rundown building of some sort, Batman wins because he's got the tech (gadgets) that can incapacitate or even kill Captain America.
But seriously, the winner will be the first one to find a hole in the other guy's plot armor.
Marvel Film Cap. beats any of the movie Batman thus far.
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For the record whilst spidey could have beaten Superboy ( as was) it was a travesty that Wolverine beat Lobo -- even the writer was embarassed -- and now way in hell that Storm could have done anything to Wonder Woman.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Since Batman's super-power is "buy any piece of equipment on the fly anywhere in the world through retroactive backstory", he doesn't have to know there's a fight coming... he's prepared for it anyway.
Case in point: Anti-shark spray.
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Furyou Miko wrote: Since Batman's super-power is "buy any piece of equipment on the fly anywhere in the world through retroactive backstory", he doesn't have to know there's a fight coming... he's prepared for it anyway.
Case in point: Anti-shark spray.
I think you'll find that that was actually Batman's trusty Shark Repellant Bat Spray
*Captain America randomly throws his shield into the smoke, despite the fact this is a man who thanks to the super serum has near photogenic memory and can do pinpoint trigonometry in order to bounce his shield off up to 25 targets*
Yeaaah..ERB has been kinda going downhill with relation to research lately, considering Cap'n was trained by a multi-tude of fighters by now.
reds8n wrote: it was a travesty that Wolverine beat Lobo -- even the writer was embarassed
Not just embarrassed, the writers literally couldn't figure out HOW Wolverine could beat him, which is why the entire fight occurs off-panel behind a bar in a the space of two panels(Wolvie jumps him and they fall behind the bar, Wolvie pops back up smoking).
Of course, that entire event was literally a popularity contest that was determined by fan polls and should never actually be used as evidence for "What If?" fights.
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Captain America by disqualification. (They were fighting to a draw, but then Alfred cold cocked Cap from behind with a chair without Batman's knowledge).
SilverMK2 wrote: If Batman can repeatedly beat the hell out of superman, I am sure he can kick Captain America back into the pages of history
I'm going with that.
All Batman needs is a bat flamethrower...
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Paradigm wrote: Round 1, Bat loses, but as soon as it's apparent what the outcome will be, focuses all his attention on 'learning' Cap, how he moves, how he fights, what makes him tick. Bat goes home, bruised and bloodied, Cap wins.
Round 2: what do you mean Round 2? Batman will study Cap's habits and patterns, jump him when he's most vulnerable and incapacitate him with specifically designed tech or toxin. At that point, he takes the shield, sprays it black, and now the criminals of Gotham are in real trouble...
Round 2 Batman sets off a 1,000 Bat IED,or if he's really mean, arranges to have the IRS audit Captain A.
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Jimsolo wrote: He's also willing to cross lines Cap never would.
You mean like kill?
Oh, wait.
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Jimsolo wrote: He's also willing to cross lines Cap never would.
You mean like kill?
Oh, wait.
Even though I prefer Marvel to DC, that's not strictly true; Batman shot and killed Darkseid a few years back.
No, Batman ATTEMPTED to kill Darkseid. Darkseid was ultimately killed by the Black Racer and Superman in Final Crisis.
In addition, Batman shooting Darkseid was supposed to be a poignant moment of Darkseid having finally broken down Batman and Batman dying as a result. Not the writer's fault that DC decided to change it.
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Jimsolo wrote: Batman. He's smarter, better trained, better equipped, and has greater conviction. He's also willing to cross lines Cap never would.
Cap is a peak level human athlete trained in Martial arts, further enhanced by the serum. He is literally stronger, faster and more agile than Batman. And equally trained. I'll give you the smarts, equipment and line-crossing, seeing as Cap once refused to evict Squatters from his apartment.
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