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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/19 14:48:01
Subject: Lizardmen as 'counts as' Chaos Space marines
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I'm just throwing out some ideas as this point and I'd like to get some feedback and maybe some additional ideas. As a Daemon player, I have dabbled with the idea of CSM allies, but I've never had any interest in going that far into them. I also really like the aesthetics of Lizarmen, having played them for years back when Fantasy existed What do you think of Skinks as Cultists and Saurus as the Chaos Space Marines? Theme-wise they would be from a system of planets inhabited by a reptilian species. Maybe the system is near a warp rift so they worship Chaos The Skinks would not even need conversion work as the blowpipe can serve as the auto pistol. -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/19 14:51:42
Subject: Lizardmen as 'counts as' Chaos Space marines
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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I don't like it D:
Now mash them together and it's great
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/19 14:52:03
Subject: Lizardmen as 'counts as' Chaos Space marines
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Good daytime!
I think it is cool idea. Some headpayne may be with conversions and stilisation, but if you doo it - it will be great!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/19 15:06:26
Subject: Lizardmen as 'counts as' Chaos Space marines
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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At the moment, I'd only do this as an ally to my Daemons. Probably just the Skink cultists and a Saurian Sorcerer to unlock Magnus (which would be a beefed up LoC). The theme would be that "Sungam" as powerful Lord of Change has declared himself the ruler of this Saurian empire. So most likely, these will all be Mark of Tzeentch CSMs I'm also open to the idea of using the Saurus Calvary as Bikers for a KDK Gore pack. I just have to solve the issue of what their weapons need to be made of. Many models would use bolter, but since these will not be using human tech, I need to think of a more primitive way to represent a bolter equivalent. Maybe cross bows or bio-logical base weapons like the Tyranids?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/19 15:24:01
Subject: Lizardmen as 'counts as' Chaos Space marines
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Galef wrote:At the moment, I'd only do this as an ally to my Daemons. Probably just the Skink cultists and a Saurian Sorcerer to unlock Magnus (which would be a beefed up LoC).
The theme would be that "Sungam" as powerful Lord of Change has declared himself the ruler of this Saurian empire.
So most likely, these will all be Mark of Tzeentch CSMs
I'm also open to the idea of using the Saurus Calvary as Bikers for a KDK Gore pack.
I just have to solve the issue of what their weapons need to be made of.
Many models would use bolter, but since these will not be using human tech, I need to think of a more primitive way to represent a bolter equivalent. Maybe cross bows or bio-logical base weapons like the Tyranids?
No reason you couldn't use Bolters, claim they were left there from a failed Imperial/ CSM invasion. I think Crossbows would be a bad idea personally as there is some disconnect between an automatic .75 Caliber AP rocket shooter and a crossbow. If you could get ahold of something like the Avelyn from Dark Souls series, which is a crossbow that has 3 bows and fires three shot burst, you could make it good. Biological weaponry would be the way to go for me, maybe spine-based? Ie, a big lump of spikes that fires 8 inch bone spears? Heavier weaponry could be shown by trebuchets or ballistas mounted on the larger Dinos, like the Stegodon, to represent Predator Tanks. Bastilodon/Trebuchet would be a fantastic Vindicator. Troglodons are prime candidates for Maulerfiends, while Carnosaurs could be a fantastic Chaos Lord on Steed (even Disc of Tzeentch) or even a Daemon Prince (although if you're doing Daemon allies just a DP would be good too, maybe with a Carnosaur-based conversion?). Terradon or Ripperdactyl Riders could be used as Raptors or Warp Talons respectively, and you have potential for giant Pteradon-based Heldrakes as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/19 15:28:44
Subject: Re:Lizardmen as 'counts as' Chaos Space marines
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Honestly, the closest analogy is Orks. No armour, crude appearance. Big Dinos = ramshackle vehicles. You'd be super-hard-pressed to justify a 3+ save on something wearing... scales. On part of it's body. Skinks = grots. I don't think you could swing a LM conversion that wouldn't "look" like a counts-as Ork army. Orks in 'Eavy Armour would be more "Marine-Like" than Lizardmen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/04/19 15:35:49
Subject: Lizardmen as 'counts as' Chaos Space marines
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Yeah, I want to keep the primitive overall. They are only able to keep up with the other races in the 40K galaxy because they worship chaos. I am liking the bio-weapons idea the most so far. they can use a mix of primitive tech like blowpipes and spears, but for their projectile weapons, they can use xenos/chaos infused weapons. Nid weapons would probably look the part best. Fleshborers & Spinfist can make fine bolter eqivalents. I doubt I would go any farther than that at this point though. Maybe I need a melta equivalent if I ever decide to run Cold One bikes. I could see Lizardmen as Orks, but that isn't the point on this project. I am not trying to fit Lizardmen models into 40K, I am trying to field CSMs as a group of Xenos that worship chaos, rather than human traitors The galaxy is huge and reptilian aliens as sadly few and far between in the 40K mythos. -
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