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Edit: Quick rating. Out of the M. Night movies I've watched (Signs, The 6th Sense, Unbreakable, Split, The Village, and now Glass), Glass is the least enjoyable as a movie. I think it has more novel and challenging concepts than most of the rest, but it's probably the least impressive cinematically.


Don't bother going to see this movie if you can't handle having your expectations completely subverted.

Act 1 is good through and through
Act 2 is decent
Act 3 is where the movie falters, but there is an interesting twist that will make or break the film for you.

Overall, there is some extremely cringeworthy/soap opera tier dialogue at a few points.
Bruce Willis sort of phones it in and doesn't have a big enough role IMO, but we do get to see David Dunn at full potential.
Samuel L. Jackson gets to show off his 'super powered' intellect which apparently no longer extends to his charisma or wit.
James McAvoy does more of the same. IMO, they show too many of the personalities and they aren't different enough to impress me outside of the core 5-6.

There is a surprising return from a character from Unbreakable not seen in the trailers.
Elijah's mom plays a slightly larger role here.
Anya-Taylor Joy has an important part to play, but IMO her character is written poorly in that
Spoiler:
she is overly empathetic to a cannibal murderer.

Also,
Spoiler:
Uncle 'Let's Play Animals' is now in prison and she lives in a foster home.


Sarah Paulson's character is actually
Spoiler:
the primary antagonist.



Rough break down follows in spoilers

Spoiler:

Don't open it unless you want to be spoiled.

















You've been warned.
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Opening scene is The Horde with the four captured cheerleaders. Patricia offers to make them PB&J.
Dunn tracks down and roughs a couple of punks. Returns to a storefront 'Dunn Security' and talks to his 'guy on the headset' that is revealed to be his son.
Remainder of Act 1 is just Dunn trying to track down The Horde. He bumps into Hedwig by chance, finds the cheerleaders and frees them, goes head to head with The Beast.
The Beast is freaked out that Dunn can go mano y mano with him.

Dunn jumps out of a window with the Beast on his back. Outside Sarah Paulson's (Ellie Staple) character is waiting with cops and lights. They flash the Beast into submission and take both The Horde
and Dunn into custody. Casey later gets alerted that The Horde is in custody.

Sarah's character feths with Dunn and Crumb for a bit about how they're delusional and tries to convince them that they don't have powers.
Both Casey and Joseph come at different times to try and see Dunn/Crumb respectively. Casey meets with Crumb and is shown to have the ability to force him back into Kevin 'mode' by touch.
Ultimately, Sarah can't convince any of the three delusional supers to change and after 3 days plans to mind zap them all into submission or something.

Mr. Glass meets with the Horde beforehand and convinces him to fight Dunn at an opening tower in order to reveal the existence of supers to humanity. The Horde agrees.
Glass also taunts David Dunn to come face the horde or a 'whole lot of people are going to die'.

Ellie Staple discovers footage of Mr. Glass rolling around outside his cell and has the surgery or w/e the hell it's supposed to be performed immediately.

Later that night one of the ward's techs comes in to check on the now comatose Mr. Glass. Out of nowhere Mr. Glass cuts the tech's throat and it's revealed that he had switched the glass magnifying crap or w/e it was and faked the results. He gears up into his purple pimp suit and rides out with the Horde. The Beast kills another tech and the pair head through the basement.

David Dunn manages to come to his senses and rams down a steel door like a boss while the evil duo lays out of some guards and heads outside the facility. Mrs. Price, Casey, and Joseph all show up while this ongoing to talk to Staple and try to convince her that the 3 supers aren't delusional. Ellie catches wind of the escape.

Guards attempt to stop thee bad guys. They fail. We do see multiple superhuman feats of strength from The Beast and Dunn. Dunn and The Beast are fighting, guards intervene and get locked up or killed. Joseph reveals to the Beast that Kevin's dad died on the same train that Dunn was on and that Glass is responsible. The Beast mortally wounds Mr. Glass and then drags Dunn into a water tank. Dunn manages to break free, but is injured.

SWAT like cops roll up. Casey gets hold of the Beast and calms him. He turns back into Kevin and they cry and gak. A SWAT sniper gut shots Kevin. Another SWAT guy repeatedly slams Dunn's head into a puddle of water. Staple reveals to Dunn and Glass that she is part of an organization that kills supers if they can't convince them that they are delusional. All three supers die in slow, painfully drawn out scenes.

Ellie Staple meets with her snazzy buddies in murder at a snazzy hotel where snazzy douches like to go while planning their control of human evolution. She admits that there were some failures during this op, but that they eliminated the threat. She plans to move onto the next city.

Staple heads back to the psych ward and discovers that Mr. Glass had hacked the psych ward's cameras (of which there were hundreds) and sent video of the confrontation between Dunn and the Beast to a private IP.

Cut to Mrs. Price, Casey, and Joseph all receiving the video feed of the incident. The three survivors upload the data to YouTube and then chill in the subway while they wait for people to see and believe it's not CGI/photo editing. No really, the ending subway scene is that dumb.

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Thanks for the review!

I have no desire to see it in theaters, but I hope it does well. Split was a crazy success, made quarter billion plus on a 10 million budget, and that had no real hype. I’m seeing adds and commercials everywhere for this movie.

Not suprised at the latter part of the movie faltering, as thats as much a signature move of M. Knight as twist endings.

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Nothing about the trailers for this struck me as a particularly good movie; it just seemed like a desperate attempt to cash in on the cinematic universe bandwagon.

Still, I did think Unbreakable was OK, so I had a little thread of interest, or at least curiosity. Worse than The Village? That's an achievement in itself, really.

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I saw this last night.

It was pretty good! If you liked Unbreakable then you will like this. Bruce Willis completely recaptures David Dunn again. That is to say he is very stoic. A bit more lively at points because hes less depressed and then more quiet because bad gaks happening.

Definitely Mr Glass's movie.


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First hour is kind of slow while they set stuff up. Second hour starts to get really pretty good. I did not like the ending with the clovers.

 
   
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Unbreakable was a slow burn also. You should go into this expecting a slow burn.

I thought the clovers was fine.

It answers the questions the movie poses and the first movie asks by extension. If supers exist, where are all the supers at?

Its a decent enough answer.


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Pretty sure that with a $20 mil budget and $90 mil gross WW take so far it is a financial success. For the most the reviews I've seen from the general audience have been that it was lackluster to positive. Definitely could have been executed much better.

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Yeah but thats what unbreakable had too. Its like a less extreme waterworld.

Either you liked the slow burn that was unbreakable and you are in on the premise at which point you will like this or you didnt like unbreakable and think that universe is dumb at which point you have no reason to see this one.


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Unbreakable is possibly my favorite movie. It's at least in the top 5. I can't help tearing up multiple times while watching it. It's not about it being a 'slow burn'. M. Night somehow managed to capture so many little moments throughout the film perfectly, in a way that genuinely reflected human emotion and invited the view to empathize with the character(s). It all built towards a revelation and than a resolution as our protagonist finally escaped a lifetime spent lost in darkness and found his meaning.

Glass does have moments of brilliance, but as a whole it has nowhere near the humanity or nuance of Unbreakable. It is a very heavy handed film built around entirely upon a twist and it doesn't begin to live up to over a decade of expectations.

Spoiler:
Also, Casey's interactions with Kevin ranged from nonsensical to outright disturbing in that she was written to 'leap into the arms' of a mass murderer-cannibal. The way M. Night handled her character was completely tone deaf. It honestly stunned me because during Split she was written extremely well and completely believable as a victim of sexual abuse.

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I am a big fan of Unbreakable and I liked Glass. It is not a movie I would take someone who did not like, or saw, Unbreakable.

The Clovers explained how they could keep them in the institution and do whatever they wanted to them. For me I needed the Psychiatrists to get her come uppance and it happened. I would have liked it in a better way, but it was satisfying enough for me.
   
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 trexmeyer wrote:
Unbreakable is possibly my favorite movie. It's at least in the top 5. I can't help tearing up multiple times while watching it. It's not about it being a 'slow burn'. M. Night somehow managed to capture so many little moments throughout the film perfectly, in a way that genuinely reflected human emotion and invited the view to empathize with the character(s). It all built towards a revelation and than a resolution as our protagonist finally escaped a lifetime spent lost in darkness and found his meaning.

Glass does have moments of brilliance, but as a whole it has nowhere near the humanity or nuance of Unbreakable. It is a very heavy handed film built around entirely upon a twist and it doesn't begin to live up to over a decade of expectations.

Spoiler:
Also, Casey's interactions with Kevin ranged from nonsensical to outright disturbing in that she was written to 'leap into the arms' of a mass murderer-cannibal. The way M. Night handled her character was completely tone deaf. It honestly stunned me because during Split she was written extremely well and completely believable as a victim of sexual abuse.


Spoiler:
She is not sympathetic to the beast (who is the cannibal murderer) she is sympathetic to Kevin who is suffering from a incredible form of a real disorder. The only personality she really has any care or sympathy for in the child one, and Kevin himself. One of those is a kid and one of those was only ever kind to her in Split, and both of them are victims of the other personalities. At no point is she sympathetic to the monsters. She deals with them as a way to get to Kevin who, again, is a victim ever since he was a child just like her.


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SoCal

I enjoyed this film. It felt very much like a continuation of Unbreakable to its natural conclusion. I don't really get all the hate.

If Nolan's Batman is what you get when a director who prefers crime dramas makes a comic book movie, then Glass is what you get when a director who prefers suspense makes a comic book movie.

   
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I thought it was a decently made movie. It didn't have quite the ending I expected, but that's rather the point of watching a movie.



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 AegisGrimm wrote:
I thought it was a decently made movie. It didn't have quite the ending I expected, but that's rather the point of watching a movie.


I politely disagree with that sentiment. I regularly read spoilers before viewing a movie or in some cases, reading a book. The ending isn't the end all be all for me. The process of getting there is just as important. And, as far as film is concerned, the individual scenes and their respective shots is also a major point of enjoyment. Unbreakable was a beautifully shot and scored movie. Nearly every scene was strong on its own and together became something greater. Glass maybe had one or two strong scenes from a visual perspective. As I said earlier, the concept works, but the execution was painfully mediocre.

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Sorry, I meant that I like that didn't see the ending coming from a mile off, which is a nice thing to have in movies (and of course, books). I half expected his son and maybe the girl to somehow discover that they had powers, too- which would have been a shame as it would really have been low-hanging fruit as superhero stories go.

Unbreakable was obviously a better movie, but then again it's probably one of the better superhero movies out there, especially the last half hour and the very ending.

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Okay, that makes sense. I did appreciate that the ending did make sense in the context of the film and is hinted at throughout. Casey was hinted at having abilities, at least of the empathetic variety. (As everyone predicted she would be the one to calm the beast)

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I think Unbreakable is probably my favourite Superhero movie (because it isn't), but I didn't especially enjoy Split.

That latter is probably because I don't seem able to enjoy Mcavoy ... (it happens ... I generally "can't" like Colin Farrel or Jamie Foxx, despite loving a few movies they star in). Love SMJ (a bit ...).

I want to watch it, but have watched a couple of really good movies the last two days (Sparrow Creek & Widows ), and don't want to ... be disappointed, I guess? Woe is to me ...

Worth a watch?

   
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It's about 80% Macavoy.

   
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Yeah, McAvoy has the largest role of the 3 in Glass and he contributes the best performance. If you disliked Split you'll likely hate Glass.

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 trexmeyer wrote:
Yeah, McAvoy has the largest role of the 3 in Glass and he contributes the best performance. If you disliked Split you'll likely hate Glass.


You say he contributes the best performance? OK, time to go and prove myself wrong
   
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McAvoy shifting through the many personalities was good in split but he takes it to another level in glass.


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I thought he was captivating in Glass. If you can't stand him, much of the movie will probably fall flat for you.

   
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Gonna watch it. you guys suck at putting someone off!
   
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War Drone wrote:
 trexmeyer wrote:
Yeah, McAvoy has the largest role of the 3 in Glass and he contributes the best performance. If you disliked Split you'll likely hate Glass.


You say he contributes the best performance? OK, time to go and prove myself wrong


He contributes the best performance by virtue of all the other performances being either mediocre, lacking energy, or otherwise odd in some fashion. Elijah and his mother have obnoxiously heavy-handed lines about the nature of comic books that everyone knows by now (i.e. the showdown), Sarah Paulson is very sincere in her role (but basically just there), Bruce Willis is as world weary and tight lipped as ever, and Anya Taylor-Joy is underutilized after a great performance in Split.

Lance845 wrote:McAvoy shifting through the many personalities was good in split but he takes it to another level in glass.


BobtheInquisitor wrote:I thought he was captivating in Glass. If you can't stand him, much of the movie will probably fall flat for you.


I think his personality swapping is extremely overrated. He nails Kevin, Dennis, Hedwig, the Beast, and the lady (Patricia?), but all the other personalities are basically palette swaps. He doesn't enter them on a physical level. You can see the swap from Barry to Dennis in Split in his expressions and posture alone. None of the secondary personalities are close to being on that level.

War Drone wrote:Gonna watch it. you guys suck at putting someone off!


I guess the worst thing I can say about Glass is that there isn't a single moment in the film that is explicitly better on the big screen. Even The Last Jedi (as controversial as it was), was a visual feast and absolutely worth seeing on a big screen for certain shots.

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