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 Insularum wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Lovely model.

Is the wargear OK for a cannoness? She looks right for the job.

I don't think any sisters characters can actually take hand flamers But swapping that out would be easy enough to make either a cannoness or palatine.

The Canonness with Jump Pack can take a Hand Flamer.

 Nevelon wrote:
Lovely model.

Is the wargear OK for a cannoness? She looks right for the job.

I think her base is too big.

Last year's Warboss has its own legends rules and is suggested to use as a Warboss otherwise but also oddly has too big of a base.

Apparently death cult assassins, crusaders and missionaries are gone. I'm waiting to see whether squad sizes get changed too, so that small squads of penitent engines, flagellants and repentia you got in the SoB starter box become unusable...

Shame to hear about those missing models - though I'd wager we'll see them return at some point in an expansion or new codex. Kind of surprised that GW didn't update them already considering how much the threw into SoB

I dunno if they will come back to the Sisters. They were somewhat odd fits left over from the Inquisition as it is. Feels like they might go back there if they pop up anywhere.

Yeah, I don't consider any of these a loss. Zero surprise they're going away.

Well darn, I was just about to make some Death Cultists/Penal Legion for my Arbites/Sisters army.

Always sad to see stuff cut from codexes, but those units did seem just to be legacy units from when it was the witch hunter book with the inquisition and all that came with it.

I hope the all land on their feel in an imperial agents/inquisition book. Hopefully in a form that can still be splashed into a SoB army for those who want to keep things the way they were.

 Crimson wrote:
Apparently death cult assassins, crusaders and missionaries are gone.

I've lost track - was Missionaries the SOB term for Preachers?

 Dysartes wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Apparently death cult assassins, crusaders and missionaries are gone.

I've lost track - was Missionaries the SOB term for Preachers?

Yes, but they're now just "monitorum priest" apparently to cover both preacher and missionary.

i wonder if the cut AdSor models will return in KT. they're a bit weird on their own since they're not a full unit but not characters— not something GW does much of anymore, there's a much clearer divide now

if they do come back, it will be in the agents/inquisition book, for sure

 Dysartes wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Apparently death cult assassins, crusaders and missionaries are gone.

I've lost track - was Missionaries the SOB term for Preachers?

Missionaries were the Guard Preachers' loadout on a different model than the Guard Preacher, which used the same model as the SoB Preacher despite the SoB Preachers' base loadout being Pious Vorne's loadout.

It's all very convoluted, perfect representation of the Imperium!

As long as the combined priest keeps all the wargear options of preacher and missionary it's fine, but I'm afraid it will be limited to just to the Pious Vorne gear as that's what the current model is.

Also, where are all the leaks? The codes release is near.

Love the new SoB. I really hope the Battle Sanctum comes back, I'm sad not to see mention of it with the codex coming out.

Also, those dice look awful. Actually gold pips would be so much better than whatever sludge colour they have on them, unless they've just photographed them awfully.

 Insularum wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Lovely model.

Is the wargear OK for a cannoness? She looks right for the job.

I don't think any sisters characters can actually take hand flamers But swapping that out would be easy enough to make either a cannoness or palatine.

Swapping? Psh! My Canoness still waves around her power fist with exterminator cartridge from third edition.

 Crimson wrote:
As long as the combined priest keeps all the wargear options of preacher and missionary it's fine

They already eliminated 1/3 of the model options, I doubt they'll keep the rest of the metal options.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
As long as the combined priest keeps all the wargear options of preacher and missionary it's fine

They already eliminated 1/3 of the model options, I doubt they'll keep the rest of the metal options.

The Uriah Jacobus loadout held on in the rules for the longest time!

Weird how Vorne is making the leap to generic character, but Taddeus isn't.

IMHO Thaddeus looks too much like a specific individual while Vorne looks more generic.

It warms my heart that the official Ministorum Priest model is now female. Go Sisters of Battle!

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
As long as the combined priest keeps all the wargear options of preacher and missionary it's fine

They already eliminated 1/3 of the model options, I doubt they'll keep the rest of the metal options.

The Uriah Jacobus loadout held on in the rules for the longest time!

Weird how Vorne is making the leap to generic character, but Taddeus isn't.

Don't get me started on eliminating the plasmagun missionary but not Uriah.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
As long as the combined priest keeps all the wargear options of preacher and missionary it's fine

They already eliminated 1/3 of the model options, I doubt they'll keep the rest of the metal options.

The Uriah Jacobus loadout held on in the rules for the longest time!

Weird how Vorne is making the leap to generic character, but Taddeus isn't.

The equipment of the Missionary was literally changed to match Taddeus.

 alextroy wrote:
IMHO Thaddeus looks too much like a specific individual while Vorne looks more generic.

It warms my heart that the official Ministorum Priest model is now female. Go Sisters of Battle!

The fact you call out the Pious Vorne model as a generic style give me hope for 40k. Just your generic religious lunatic wielding a great evicerator/flamer combo.

She would also make a better redemptionist in a Cawdor heavy gang, because of the awkvard size difference between redemptionists and Cawdor.

Giving the Aveline model another look, I'm wondering why she has a hand flamer if her sword already has an attached flame weapon. There are a lot of bolter shell casings scattered on her base, so was she meant to have a bolt pistol?

And her raised arm - it looks like she has cloth on her upper arm, underneath the traditional big sleeves, so the elbow plating is the only armour on the arm?

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i wonder if the cut AdSor models will return in KT. they're a bit weird on their own since they're not a full unit but not characters— not something GW does much of anymore, there's a much clearer divide now

if they do come back, it will be in the agents/inquisition book, for sure

Yep.

There was a rumor floating around about 3 Inquisition Combat Patrol boxes or Battle Forces. If their exclusion from Sororitas means the Agents dex is real, well I'm game- I always thought it was wonky that battle conclave units (Crusaders, Arcos and DCAs) could use AoF. If they become Agents, they lose the Sororitas Keyword. This isn't a perfect solution to me, because currently the Agents army rule does nothing except allow Agents to be played at all, and worse, because the mechanism for their inclusion denies them a detachment, they're without detachment rule as well. Perhaps this will be cleaned up with an Agents dex.

I do think the Battle Conclave would make an excellent Kill Team though.

Now if Battle Conclave units outside of Arcos truly are gone, and not set to return as Agents? Well that's it for awhile I guess. I took a break for 6th and 7th due to GW's mistreatment of Sisters, and I could do it again. I'll wait for the Goonhammer review before I snap to judgement. I still have the free index cards, and anyone out there who is a small circle garagehammer player where such things are permissible, download the free index cards while you can.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Giving the Aveline model another look, I'm wondering why she has a hand flamer if her sword already has an attached flame weapon. There are a lot of bolter shell casings scattered on her base, so was she meant to have a bolt pistol?

And her raised arm - it looks like she has cloth on her upper arm, underneath the traditional big sleeves, so the elbow plating is the only armour on the arm?

Maybe the flamy burny thingy on the sword is only there to make the fiery faction logo so she can strike a super inspirational pose? Or she just likes to burninate things.

I'm just going to pretend that's a tight(ish) cloth sleeve over the actual armor. Skipping intermediate sections of power armor is as dumb as it gets.

 PenitentJake wrote:


There was a rumor floating around about 3 Inquisition Combat Patrol boxes or Battle Forces. If their exclusion from Sororitas means the Agents dex is real, well I'm game- I always thought it was wonky that battle conclave units (Crusaders, Arcos and DCAs) could use AoF. If they become Agents, they lose the Sororitas Keyword. This isn't a perfect solution to me, because currently the Agents army rule does nothing except allow Agents to be played at all, and worse, because the mechanism for their inclusion denies them a detachment, they're without detachment rule as well. Perhaps this will be cleaned up with an Agents dex.
.

In fairness, Crusaders are Ecclesiarchy household bodyguards and Death cult assassins are also Imperial fanatics. These two groups using Acts of Faith is plausible. Doesn't make a lot of sense for arcos though...

The Genestealer Cults Brood Brothers Detachment Upguns the Uprising With Astra Militarum Allies

The restrictions on what units you can take are the same as before – no Commissars, Tempestus Scions, Valkyries, or the like – but now the points allowance has been doubled. In a Brood Brother Auxilia force, fully half of your army can be taken from the Astra Militarum roster.* This means that large squadrons of tanks and massed infantry regiments are on the table, and if you want to drop a cheeky Baneblade into your list, it won’t take up your entire allotment.

* However, Brood Brother units can now only be taken in this specific Detachment.

beast_gts wrote:
The Genestealer Cults Brood Brothers Detachment Upguns the Uprising With Astra Militarum Allies

The restrictions on what units you can take are the same as before – no Commissars, Tempestus Scions, Valkyries, or the like – but now the points allowance has been doubled. In a Brood Brother Auxilia force, fully half of your army can be taken from the Astra Militarum roster.* This means that large squadrons of tanks and massed infantry regiments are on the table, and if you want to drop a cheeky Baneblade into your list, it won’t take up your entire allotment.

* However, Brood Brother units can now only be taken in this specific Detachment.

That paragraph seems perfectly crafted to annoy Kan...

It's to be expected. The designers seem to want Guard to be T3 Grots.

To seize a quick moment:
This would have been the absolute, 100% perfect time for them to have released a preview for the Guard. To show Guard players that "Hey. We got you."

GSC stays winning

Need to see the other detachments but I see this as a positive overall.

It does restrict Guard to just the one detachment but in return we get some fluffy looking Strategems that actually affect BB and in allow cult and BB units to synergise with each other.