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How long ago were the new plushes announced? Seems like a while. We have pricing on them yet?

Related, do we know if W+ is giving out swag discount coupons again this year instead of gift cards like the first year, and would they work on them?

Worth noting in here that the killteam release sees some 40k units repackaged and largely hiked.

Scouts are being reboxed at £50 up from £42.50 for example.

Dudeface wrote:
Worth noting in here that the killteam release sees some 40k units repackaged and largely hiked.

Scouts are being reboxed at £50 up from £42.50 for example.

Wow! Are the minis the same quantity?

That's a big hike in price if its just the same models. No terrain, rulespack, cards or anything?

 Nevelon wrote:
How long ago were the new plushes announced? Seems like a while. We have pricing on them yet?

June 21. Not that long ago, but it kind of feels longer to me.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/21/the-second-wave-of-warhammer-plushies-from-tomy-are-horribly-adorable/

 Nevelon wrote:
Related, do we know if W+ is giving out swag discount coupons again this year instead of gift cards like the first year, and would they work on them?

They're sticking with merchandise discount:

Warhammer Community wrote:There will also be regular exclusive promotions and giveaways. Coming up in October, all subscribers can get 20% off at the Warhammer Merch store if you’re signed up before the 30th of September.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/22/new-shows-and-more-coming-to-warhammer-this-year-plus-our-biggest-ever-giveaway-with-warhammer-40000-space-marine-2/

 Geifer wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
How long ago were the new plushes announced? Seems like a while. We have pricing on them yet?

June 21. Not that long ago, but it kind of feels longer to me.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/21/the-second-wave-of-warhammer-plushies-from-tomy-are-horribly-adorable/

 Nevelon wrote:
Related, do we know if W+ is giving out swag discount coupons again this year instead of gift cards like the first year, and would they work on them?

They're sticking with merchandise discount:

Warhammer Community wrote:There will also be regular exclusive promotions and giveaways. Coming up in October, all subscribers can get 20% off at the Warhammer Merch store if you’re signed up before the 30th of September.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/22/new-shows-and-more-coming-to-warhammer-this-year-plus-our-biggest-ever-giveaway-with-warhammer-40000-space-marine-2/

Thanks for the info.

I can wait until Oct. The question is if I need both the servo skull and the ripper…

 Overread wrote:
That's a big hike in price if its just the same models. No terrain, rulespack, cards or anything?

All of them now come with unique token sheets so the base £2.50 increase everybody seems to have gotten seems fine but no idea why Scouts and Blooded had to go up an additional £5

Of course if you just want them for 40k those tokens don't do anything for you so just an annoying increase

 Matrindur wrote:

 Overread wrote:
That's a big hike in price if its just the same models. No terrain, rulespack, cards or anything?

All of them now come with unique token sheets so the base £2.50 increase everybody seems to have gotten seems fine but no idea why Scouts and Blooded had to go up an additional £5

Of course if you just want them for 40k those tokens don't do anything for you so just an annoying increase

Blooded probably went up because of the Commissar being a character model in 40k.

 Arbitrator wrote:


Blooded probably went up because of the Commissar being a character model in 40k.

Would explain a higher price point to start but not a higher increase. Also the higher starting point wasn't even the case:

Blooded were 51,50€ before, same as the Veteran Guardsmen, Novitiates, Corsairs, Farstalkers, Kasrkin, Hearthkyn, Elucidian Starstriders, Fellgor Ravagers, Navy Breachers and Exaction Squad.
Scouts, Necrons, Gellerpox, Phobos Squad, Legionaries, and Kommandos were 55€.
Then there are the Pathfinders at 47.50€ and the Hand of the Archon and Inquisitorial Agents at 44€ and the Blades of Khaine at 62,50€

Now Corsairs went up to 55€, Hernkyn Jaegers and Brood Brothers got added to 55€, Mandrakes to 62,50€, Kommandos stayed at 55€, Nemesis Claw with a new price point of 60€ together with Blooded which got raised up there and Scouts went up to 62,50€

So for the already existing squads Corsairs got +3,50€, Kommandos stayed the same, Blooded +8,50€ and Scouts +7,50€

So as said above the +3,50€ for Corsairs makes sense with the tokens and the same increase would be fine for the others but why did Scouts and Blooded get a higher increase instead? (Probably simply because people will still buy them at that price point but still)

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
I know we're going to be light on News and Rumors for the near future, but the pros and cons of T'au diplomacy are neither News nor Rumors...

If you think there's a problem with how OT a thread is getting, can I draw your attention to the little yellow triangle in the corner of each post, rather than trying to act like a Mod yourself?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Saying they are the least bad isn't really accurate. There's nothing good about someone who shows up and says all your base are belong to us. Even if they seem like they go about it in a nice way, the truth of the matter is all your resources, your art, culture,society, history, and your future now belong to them and they will do with that as they please whether you like it or not. They've already demonstrated themselves to not be above genocide and xenophobia where it makes sense (see also their purge of the "hateful Reek"). Just because they ask questions befire pulling the trigger doesn't really make them less bad than those races who pull the trigger first. They're differently bad, but not really more good.

They are the "least bad" because the Imperium will just exterminate you if you aren't human, and also if you are human in a way it doesn't like. Orks will either exterminate you or turn you into cattle. Necrons will either exterminate your or turn you into a science experiment. You should really hope Chaos just exterminates you instead of getting creative. And Tyranids will simply eat you.

And then there is the Dark Eldar, who make an art out of fates worse than genocide.

The Tau meanwhile will just conquer you like any good old fashioned greedy empire.

Except the Tau will also exterminate you if you refuse to be conquered or don't fit with their notion of empire. Again, I direct you to their extermination of the Reek.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Except the Tau will also exterminate you if you refuse to be conquered or don't fit with their notion of empire. Again, I direct you to their extermination of the Reek.

"Might exterminate" sounds a lot like "least bad" compared to "will exterminate". Obviously still a far cry from "good", but I don't think anyone was seriously claiming that.

Hey kids, getting a lot of reports that we have gone OT, please take it elsewhere and let this thread sink to the bottom until we've got relevant on topic news once more, cheers! 👊🏻

If the biggest news is a box of 10 plastic infantry (scouts) is £50, that is now boxed game territory. You can get a copy of Heroes of Black Reach (sadly discontinued) for that now. Wonder if even the new release pipeline can continue to get traction.

Yeah, the price is outrageous.

Presumably it's because they want to sell them in boxes of five to 40k players once their Kill Team run ends, same as the Mandrakes and Scorpions among others.

I'm glad I bought all the scouts I want last month. I understand that price rises happen, but this just seems a tad excessive.

Were the scouts that were on sale last week the same as these? I didn’t know they had gotten an individual release of the KT sprue.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Were the scouts that were on sale last week the same as these? I didn’t know they had gotten an individual release of the KT sprue.

The models are identical, but the new KT boxes now come with some kind of card token sheets that I don't think they've showed yet.

Blackstone Fortress is no longer on the Warhammer website...

SamusDrake wrote:
Blackstone Fortress is no longer on the Warhammer website...

And the Chaos Lord from it is 'sold out online'.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Blackstone Fortress is no longer on the Warhammer website...

And the Chaos Lord from it is 'sold out online'.

He used to be so common, they'd practically give him away on ebay. A bit tempted to pick up one, just before he's gone forever/scalped to oblivion, but I dunno if I can justify him

Just a gut feeling, but the lack of 40K releases this side of Christmas might be due to a new 40K board game that will indirectly accomplish that goal anyway. Might even be models intended to join the main 40K range further down the line, as Blackstone Fortress has provided.

I'm guessing it'll be either Space Hulk or another Quest game.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Blackstone Fortress is no longer on the Warhammer website...

And the Chaos Lord from it is 'sold out online'.

He used to be so common, they'd practically give him away on ebay. A bit tempted to pick up one, just before he's gone forever/scalped to oblivion, but I dunno if I can justify him

GW probably just sold him because they didnt have another power armour chaos lord. Now they have a dedicated character kit there is no need to keep him around for main 40k. He is far to anonymous to make up a good character -the legionaire champion has more flair than Obsidius Mallex.
If you didnt miss him before when he was a "common item", no need to get him now.

If he's too boring and not memorable enough, it's only because GW has become far too serious about 40k. If they were going to name him Black Hammer, they should have gone all the way and given him a 'fro.

Still, in the context of GW's insanity it's not so bad he exists. Without him Chaos Lords wouldn't get the option for a thunder hammer. That's something.

 Geifer wrote:
If he's too boring and not memorable enough, it's only because GW has become far too serious about 40k. If they were going to name him Black Hammer, they should have gone all the way and given him a 'fro.

Still, in the context of GW's insanity it's not so bad he exists. Without him Chaos Lords wouldn't get the option for a thunder hammer. That's something.

Well, he was released in 2018 for BSF when the updated legionaires and general model range update was still a couple of months away. He was still a big boss in the context of the models in BSF. Like I said, he was only brought over to 40k because they didnt bother to do a generic power armour character untill now, 5 years after the legionaires got updated.
I do agree its pretty far out to be able to have a thunder hammer in a CSM army, but I guess its just a "great power weapon" or something similar these days (dont remember and wont bother to look it up).

Small Valrak rumours:

Heard Krieg would be around February but as always release dates can change at any moment, heard nothing about a Krieg army box before the main release.
New Command Squad, Captain, Commissar, Weapon Teams, Artillery, Death Riders, Engineers. Heard nothing about Tanks but if you ask me an upgrade sprue would make sense for that.

SM2 cross-market box called the Recruit Edition. 12 models inside with 10 Gaunts, 1 Ripper Swarm and Tithus. So basically the Target exclusive box but with less Gaunts so if you want Tithus thats your option

I wonder if the death riders are going to be built off the current rough riders kit, or be something completely unique

Warhammer day hype trailer doesn't list reveals for 40k but the site mentions minis for 40k at the reveal show.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
I wonder if the death riders are going to be built off the current rough riders kit, or be something completely unique

Hopefully unique, or Death Riders are losing a lot of character. The horses they ride are heavily, heavily modified to the point they have cloven hooves that look more like a cow (this may actually be reasonably practical*) and are more heavily muscled. Their tails are essentially hairless. They are much more different than simply a horse in a gasmask.

*Based on my hours watching the Hoof GP and my time spent around horses, it is probably much easier to prevent the hypothetical cloven-hoofed horse from going lame due to a foot problem as you can offload the body weight onto the uninjured claw with a block. Both claws need to be injured, whereas only one hoof does for a horse.