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So which miniatures do you think the GW sculpters well and truly up?

To get the ball rolling...

Killa Kan. Maybe it's the mold, but the body halves don't fit, the legs have little or no support...

Lemartes
New White Scar guy
New Salamander guy

Broad Side Battle Suit
Commander + Crises Suits
*Their FW counterpart is waaaaaay beter

agreed Luna. FW have some really nice Tau kit. i think they fit better than the ones GW make, which i have had my boss describe as "constipated chicken suits"
My own worst model is the Cadian Sniper guardsmen. they always cone with bent gun barrels and usually end up bending them again when transporting them.

Still don't get why people don't like the Sorceress. Not to worry though.

For my bet, probably the Catachans. Compared to the original metals, they just aren't all that and a bag of potato chips!

The ENTIRE Dark Eldar line.

Lucius the Eternal
Daemonhosts
Some of the Inquistor Retinue
and
Lucius the Eternal

I was going to go with captain Cortez.

i have to agree about the dark eldar...they're so ****ing ugly that it's a wonder my FLGS sells one DE item /year

Dark Eldar. Bikes are Ok, but the raiders need a little love.
Lucius
Sisters of Battle - all the base sisters, and retributors.
Ratlings. Yes, the new ones. They did not get less ugly.
Doomrider. Why is this still in production?
Cassius
He'stan
kor'sarro khan
Imperial servitors.
Vespids. All of them. That sculptor should be ashamed.

Biovores. Only model to have a ballsack.
All Dark Eldar Excluding Raider/Ravager Chasis, but includeing crew.
Thats all I can think of for now.

wouldn't it be quicker to talk about which sculpts are done well from GW? It would avoid the endless lists!

Mine would have to be hmm the normal catachans they are great for conversiona but boy are they uuuugllly!

Agree with some but, Lemartes? What's wrong with that model?

Remember that the Dark Eldar are getting a complete 50-point facelift when they get redone for 5th ed. I agree that the old DE minis are horrid as sin, but I'm certainly interested in what the new minis will look like.

That said, Catachans are the minis that I feel GW did terribly wrong. They need to tone down the massive roid' arms and offer just a bit more variety on the minis. The Cadians are supposed to be uniform and almost identical. That's their fluff. Catachans are supposed to be 40K's badasses. They need a torso with crossed bandoliers. And a head with a cowboy hat. For survivalist junglefighters, they just feel too generic. And again. Disgusting roid' arms. Big no-go.

For sure, I definitely have high hopes for the new Dark Eldar, although that's not saying much because pretty much anything other than a preschooler's attempt at a clay stickman would be better than the existing models. GW can't do much worse than they have already. I also agree about the catachans, they look like some crazy commissar was half asleep when he signed the forms for the shipping of 25,000 tons of steroids to a certain jungle...

O.O Since when was Ontario part of the States?

They can have Quebec though. That's fine, we won't stop them there

Bat Manuel wrote:Lucius the Eternal
Daemonhosts
Some of the Inquistor Retinue
and
Lucius the Eternal

Pretty much most of my hated models are chaos GW drove me straight away from playing them with all the ass models they released:

1. Possessed marines (all versions)

2. New plague bearers

3. Oblits (all versions)

4. Lucius The crapternal

etc., etc.

I like the new bloodletters, but chaos just has way too many goofy models to ever go back to for me...


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Nightwatch wrote:For sure, I definitely have high hopes for the new Dark Eldar, although that's not saying much because pretty much anything other than a preschooler's attempt at a clay stickman would be better than the existing models.

I hope they all have that "fright wig" hair style like the one DE plastic head had. that would be full of lulz...

oni wrote:The ENTIRE Dark Eldar line.

Nice try, except the Dark Eldar line hasn't been in production since 3E - GW is still trying to unload the overproduction from when they thought the army would sell.

I happen to like the Lucius the Eternal model, and the models for Khan and Vulkan.
But...
Cassius
Killa kan
Deff Dread (construction wise)
dark Eldar
Warriors of Chaos Marauders

I like Khan and the chapter masters but i hate:

Vulkan,
The new emporer's champion,
Sicarius.


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I like Khan and the chapter masters but i hate:

Vulkan,
The new emporer's champion,
Sicarius.

biztheclown wrote:Agree with some but, Lemartes? What's wrong with that model?

When there are inanimate objects on a miniature ( in this case the purity seals and the blood bead decorations)
they are supposed to accentuate the sense of movement of the sculpt.

Assuming it makes some sort of sense that Lemartes sculpt would look better if its mounted on flying base ,
then it still looks like he is caught in a bad case of Xwind. ( hence people joke about wind test tunnel )

Same thing about the salamander guy.

i hate blackmane.
also snikrot.
but the worse is ulrik. whats with that old ass pistol. update it allready.

Oldgrue wrote:
Vespids. All of them. That sculptor should be ashamed.

Ah yes, the Vespids. To be honest, if they just sorted out the wings (insect rather bat) and the heads (should be like the drawing in the Codex, none of that pointy rubbish), I think they would be quite good.

What's wrong with the sorceress? I bought that model...

Anyway:

Dark Eldar, the entire line.
Witch Elves, Dark Riders, Blackguard, Warriors for Dark Elves.
Cold Ones and Terradons for Lizardmen.
Spawn, Plaguebearers, Daemonettes, just about all the new Chaos stuff except for Khorne bloodletters/juggers. Just looks too goofy and cartoonish now, and the daemonettes do look horrible in comparison to the old metals...the new prince kit doesn't look that great either IMO, most of the new heads we've seen make it look like a "special needs" demon.
Vulkan He'stan for Spess Mahreenz. He deserved a much better model than that.
Crisis Suits (really stupid design, make them like Forge Worlds or better please), Broadsides (same), Vespid, Krootox (because it's a bitch to assemble and practically useless in game) and Kroot Hounds (because they cost over $1 a point) for Tau.
Catachans for IG, the metals did look much better. The new command squad kit looks okay, but the regular plastic kit needed to be redone too...
Most of the Tomb Kings line...those horses and skeletons look too damn plain.
Not too impressed with most of the Skaven models, either.

Can't really think of anything else right off the top of my head.

the Commisar with the power axe

Sidstyler wrote:What's wrong with the sorceress? I bought that model...

The smoke. It looks ropey (both literally and metaphorically).

Um, Sid, after that laundry list, what *do* you like?

The pose of this model makes me cry

He's fine, especially as he's one of Jes' original RT/2E Warlock designs.