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Snow pitch is still available in the UK so might well return.

related :

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/blood_bowl/BB_WinterTable_ENG.pdf

weather table rules

Yeah I know. 2nd ed I really loved as each of the models were easily distinguishable. You're absolutely right about the spikes. I only learnt which model was the blitzer by checking ebay sales for miniatures which listed the card as well as the figure. I had initially thought some of the the linemen were the blitzers. Same with the Orcs as well, as you note. Which is why I am on a mission to convert my own.

Yeah, given they don't give you enough blitzers to make a good team anyway, I'm thinking I'll just hack the spikes off any model that I want to call a lineman (so it looks like they have knuckle dusters) and leave the spikes on any model I want to call a blitzer.

Hopefully they'll look a little bit less crazy then.

EDIT: Though the spike-handles are pretty chunky, they might look too derpy if you hack the spikes off, hmm, I dunno.

I'm pleasantly surprised that GW is giving away the winter pitch weather table for free (the only unique rules AFAIK).

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/blood_bowl/BB_WinterTable_ENG.pdf

Have we had any indication of when season 2 will drop?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Fenriswulf wrote:
I love the new Blood Bowl, and I love that it's revitalised the game, but man, I can't stand the amount of long spikes on fists that I am seeing. I am a sucker for the old style where it was mostly knuckle dusters at most unless it was a Star Player or the like. The new models look like they'd be injuring opposition players every time they connected, not just some of the time.

Yeah it is a bit silly.

Aside from looking silly it also makes different types of players indistinguishable from each other.

"Which one's the Blitzer?"
"The one with spikes"
"They all have spikes...."

It seems the only distinguishing feature of a human blitzer is the size of the crest on the helmet and for an Orc blitzer it's just that he's running compared to the linemen who are standing?

To be fair, I've seen that issue with a number of third party teams too, Black Scorpion's Skaven for example.

Unpainted the similarity is particularly bad. I ended up giving up on the boxed Orc team, and just immediately started converting Black Orc Blockers from a box of Orruk Brutes i'd been sitting on. The increased size is the one thing that makes them read differently at a glance.

Just use the NAF colour coding system

I was glad to note that Morg 'n' Thorg's team affiliations was sorted out in Death Zone - just makes it even odder they'd print the card in the boxed game with him restricted to Human & Orc teams...

Thebiggesthat wrote:
Just use the NAF colour coding system

Interesting. I had not heard of this before, but it sounds like a good idea. I looked up on the NAF website for those interested:

There is the 2nd Edition standard for colour coding bases – red blitzers, green blockers, white throwers, grey/black linemen, yellow catchers. There are variation to this, but that is the standard.

The one thing that disappointed me is that the Skaven team didn't come with team cards or any special play cards specific to the team. That's one lesson Privateer Press and Wyrd learned early on. I wish GW would get in on it.

Does anyone have a size comparison pic of the new orcs v the old 3rd ed metal orcs?

I have been thinking of using the new orc linemen as black orcs for older models

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Unpainted the similarity is particularly bad. I ended up giving up on the boxed Orc team, and just immediately started converting Black Orc Blockers from a box of Orruk Brutes i'd been sitting on. The increased size is the one thing that makes them read differently at a glance.

I'd love to see a size comparison between the Brutes and the BB Orcs. I did consider using Brutes as Blorcs but I thought they might be a bit too big.

No photos on hand, but i'd say they're about 20% bigger. Enough to clearly look different at a glance, but not so much to look out of place. Likewise, if you sacrifice one Brute, you can make four Brutes with wide-open hands, or just holding a severed head, for flavor. ;-)

Definitely bigger.
The old metal models look a bit garbage. All of them.

Definitely bigger.
The old metal models look a bit garbage. All of them.

Agreed, it's one of the biggest reasons I never played BB in past editions but bought this one, all the models looked either too goofy or just badly sculpted. Between the now awesome plastics and the great 3rd party teams that have popped up since GW killed Specialist games, there's some REALLY great options for fielding great looking teams now

Somebody on the facebook BB group posted comparison photos

Yeah,
The snow board has sold out now...

Panic...

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
The snow board has sold out now...

Panic...

It's not showing as sold out or even temporarily unavailable on either the US or UK web stores.

I don't know.. the snow pitch has been acting strange on the site, saturday morning for a few hours it was shown as sold out. Then it was back again, and on the US store still shows as being available right now. After I had a tantrum I luckily managed to get one ordered.

I don't know if this is good or bad, on one hand if it did sell out that shows demand for alternate pitch styles. Which would probably lead to us getting a guaranteed skaven/dwarf one and maybe a astrogranite/stone cobble variant. So I do hope that this sells well.

EDIT: Nevermind. Says "Web Exclusive" right there on the page. Well, I went ahead and ordered mine. Not really sure why the US site hadn't sold out.

 Thargrim wrote:
I don't know if this is good or bad, on one hand if it did sell out that shows demand for alternate pitch styles. Which would probably lead to us getting a guaranteed skaven/dwarf one and maybe a astrogranite/stone cobble variant. So I do hope that this sells well.

It's possible people are buying the snow pitch to avoid buying the boxed set then just using the free living rulebook. I strongly considered doing that but ended up grabbing the boxed set to try and get a group started.

It did sell out on the us site after two hours on saturday. I emailed gw and inquired if there was a way I could get a copy of the snow map from gw as it was available worldwide and sold out in the usa.

I got an email this morning that said, it's back in stock briefly in the usa... get it while you can. Needless to say I bought one promptly. I'm assuming blood bowl will be like space hulk. I'm assuming it will be made in limited runs (10k at a time?) and only released again in future runs if it sells well enough.

Luckily space hulk has been released three times now as it's popular. Blood bowl is also insanely popular... so I'm sure it and it's expansions will be available for a while (or remade in the future)

I kind of want to put together a Nurgle team for my FLGS's upcoming league. Is it reasonable to conver them out of Blightkings or are they too big?

Requizen wrote:
I kind of want to put together a Nurgle team for my FLGS's upcoming league. Is it reasonable to conver them out of Blightkings or are they too big?

Nah they are about the right size, so long as the base fits in the squares of the new pitch you won't have to worry about bases overlapping. Then you could use plaguebearers in plastic with gor heads as pestigors if you want to get heavy into converting. IMO using plaguebeaers as stand ins without conversion wouldn't be too bad anyway. Only thing is the rotters...the old zombie models are certainly a bit outdated but i've seen people use those with armored head swaps.

Yeah,

Requizen wrote:
I kind of want to put together a Nurgle team for my FLGS's upcoming league. Is it reasonable to conver them out of Blightkings or are they too big?

That's a terrible idea

These are my Blightkings plaguebearer conversions for my Daemonic BB team.


The full team.
1rotspawn
4bloaters
4pestigors
8rotters
7tokens



More photos in my showcase.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/706709.page

And a WIP thread.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/703823.page#8929964

Panic...

 Kalamadea wrote:

Definitely bigger.
The old metal models look a bit garbage. All of them.

Agreed, it's one of the biggest reasons I never played BB in past editions but bought this one, all the models looked either too goofy or just badly sculpted. Between the now awesome plastics and the great 3rd party teams that have popped up since GW killed Specialist games, there's some REALLY great options for fielding great looking teams now

Somebody on the facebook BB group posted comparison photos

This scale creep is slowed.

Didnt realize the pitch was up for preorder. And of course its sold out. I'm sure the ebay scalpers will love that.

 Kalamadea wrote:

Definitely bigger.
The old metal models look a bit garbage. All of them.

Agreed, it's one of the biggest reasons I never played BB in past editions but bought this one, all the models looked either too goofy or just badly sculpted. Between the now awesome plastics and the great 3rd party teams that have popped up since GW killed Specialist games, there's some REALLY great options for fielding great looking teams now.

The 2nd Ed Orcs were the first set of miniatures I ever owned, and I still feel quite nostalgic for them. Sure they might not hold up as well to modern miniatures, but there is an undeniable charm to them, especially when you consider they were made in the late 80's/early 90's, before sculpting and molding/casting technology started to make some really great strides in what was able to be accomplished.

I might do a few mods to the team I am putting together to see if I can pay homage to a bit of this style. I always liked the Black Orc Blocker's spiked shoulderpad, and a lot of the chainmail styles on them.

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,

Requizen wrote:
I kind of want to put together a Nurgle team for my FLGS's upcoming league. Is it reasonable to conver them out of Blightkings or are they too big?

That's a terrible idea

These are my Blightkings plaguebearer conversions for my Daemonic BB team.


The full team.
1rotspawn
4bloaters
4pestigors
8rotters
7tokens



More photos in my showcase.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/706709.page

And a WIP thread.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/703823.page#8929964

Panic...

Those look great! I was a bit concerned that they'd look good on 32s since they come on such big bases normally but that's awesome.

Not sure about the long term durability of the boxset pitch, slight peeling of the paper from the cardboard backing as I unfolded it today, think I'll have to look into getting a mousematt replacement version at some point.