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I'm confused...

Is the carnifex Bundle and Swarm box a Limited Release item?

I want to get a bunch of new kits first and then those 2 at a later date....

rpricew wrote:
Can't wait to see the new models painted up in Nard's pink scheme!

Nard will do his best to paint pink things as quickly as pink paint will dry in a pink room.........this may not be very quick but I will endeavour to paint something as soon as I can and I will be buying plastic crack on the 11th Jan

 -Loki- wrote:

 the shrouded lord wrote:
Just did some calculations. If the first post cost are American, the 2x carnifex will be 110 aus, 50 bucks cheaper than normal.

Holy gak. If they squeeze 2 Carnifexes into the $110 bracket, I'll definitely grab that box. It'll probably push out the Harpy box I was gonna get, since I was looking at grabbing 1 of each new set.

GW..pricing a kit... at a cheaper price than usual?! what weird fantasy reality is this?!

 -Loki- wrote:

 the shrouded lord wrote:
Just did some calculations. If the first post cost are American, the 2x carnifex will be 110 aus, 50 bucks cheaper than normal.

Holy gak. If they squeeze 2 Carnifexes into the $110 bracket, I'll definitely grab that box. It'll probably push out the Harpy box I was gonna get, since I was looking at grabbing 1 of each new set.

They're currently 53.75.. It's cheaper than 110. I don't see where it's a deal?

zaak wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 the shrouded lord wrote:
Just did some calculations. If the first post cost are American, the 2x carnifex will be 110 aus, 50 bucks cheaper than normal.

Holy gak. If they squeeze 2 Carnifexes into the $110 bracket, I'll definitely grab that box. It'll probably push out the Harpy box I was gonna get, since I was looking at grabbing 1 of each new set.

They're currently 53.75.. It's cheaper than 110. I don't see where it's a deal?

They're referring to Aus $$$, where a fex is currently $83

 Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:
The Rumour suggested that using a flyrant option would enable gargyoles as troops, in the same way as a biker warboss makes biker nobs troops.

Actually a standard warboss makes any kind of nobz troops.

https://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1050152

Is this a relic or..a new box? I found this while looking at the carnifex it had a link to " similar products". I really do hope that's not the old box before they split them up for no good reason.

Says no longer available.

Ah yes, looks like the old box. My bad, got excited there for a second.

That was the original Gaunts box. Came with half Hormagaunts, half Termagants. Everyone complained because people either wanted one or the other, not even amounts of both.

That's why the Hormagaunt sprue has no toxin sacs or adrenal glands - they were included in the box on the Termagant sprue. When they split them up, part of the sacrifice was no biomorphs in the Hormagaunt box, and all of the biomoprhs in the Termagant box.

for those who think we are getting boxes of fex's at $110 aud forgot the gw 'we hate Australia and New Zealand' policy. expect at least $130 at best. I may be wrong but usually games worksop products are at least 20% more expensive than the world after conversions. our fexs are 37% more expensive than americas converted price and I would expect that to stay the same. it will be about 150-160 aud is my guess.

 Jd7 wrote:
for those who think we are getting boxes of fex's at $110 aud forgot the gw 'we hate Australia and New Zealand' policy. expect at least $130 at best. I may be wrong but usually games worksop products are at least 20% more expensive than the world after conversions. our fexs are 37% more expensive than americas converted price and I would expect that to stay the same. it will be about 150-160 aud is my guess.

This has been pretty wrong for the last few major releases. GW have been pretty conservative with new prices in Australia, while ballooning prices in the US and UK. It's almost as if they were using Australia as the price testbed, and once they saw price elasticity go to gak in Australia, they knew they hit their limit and are now working on raising other countries to match our prices. It also makes it less useful for us to order from overseas - the discount from our strong dollar is offset by those countries having equally ridiculous pricing.

Look at the prices of large models released since 6th edition. Heldrake - $74us/$81au. Wraithknight - $115us/$125au. Even the Apocalypse sized. Lord of Skulls - $160us/$170au.

If the rumour is $90us for the Carnifex brood, I wouldn't expect more than $120au for us, and that would be really pushing it. I'd personally pay up to $130au for that box, considering it would still be nearly a $40au saving.

To be fair id rather live in Australia and pay $15 more for my models than anywhere else in the world* for a discount...

I just have a nice chat with a player in Vassal.

He supposedly got to see the new codex in a veterans tour at Warhammer World.

Rumors:

Tyranids can't take fortifications, but have +1 HQ, +1 Elites, +2 Troops, +1FA and +1 HS

Tyranids are going to have 3 supplements: Leviathan, Kraken, and Jormungandr. It is going to be a swarmy one, a nydzilla one and an infiltration one. But GW hasn't started to write them yet so anything may come.

There are advanced, basic, experimental, etc biomorphs.

Shadow in the Warp is a 12" bubble of -4 ld for enemy psych test, but also grants units the 5+ to deny.

No way to make Warriors viable, according to him the Eternal Warrior rumors are wrong.

Toxins Sacs may be the same, according to him the wording was poison 4+ to the attacks, not making any distinction between CC and ranged.

Flesh Hooks are assault grenades and d6 S6 ap5 rending and precision shoots.

Adrenals Glands give Furious Charge and the +3" run.

Scything Talons give an additional attack.

No Doom of Malan'tai, Parasite and Mycetic Spores.

Regeneration gives IWND.

Catalyst gives +1 to FNP and IWND.

Venom Cannon is S9 ap4 2 shots.

Deathspitter is back to being a blast.

Barbed Strangler is st6 ap5 and must take a S test or take d6 st4 ap3 hits.

Stranglethorn Cannon is the same but S8 and pinning.

Acid, explosive and poison spore mines are back.

Any Prime unit can be HQ, this includes Warrior Prime, Trygon Prime and Old One Eye.

Only 1 Psych Powers chart.

Carnifex:

120 points

Got a new page of upgrades.

2+ save for 15 points

1d3 Hammer of Wrath attacks

Can attack the occupants of a transport after destroying it in CC.

Harpy:

140 points

Fast Attack unit

WS 4 BS 3 S 7 T 5 W 4 I 5 A 3 LD 8 sv 4+

Sonic Shriek is when it flies over unit.

Also carries spore mines

Born in the Skies: Can't be grounded

Crone:

170 points

Fast Attack unit

WS 3 BS 3 S 8 T 5 W 5 I 5 A 3 LD 8 sv 3+

4 S7 ap2 shoots or 1 S7 ap2 large blast

Missiles

Born in the Skies: Can't be grounded

"Haruspex":

Elite unit

"Magna Graple" attack

WS 4 BS 3 S 8(or 9, he wasn't sure) T 6 W 5 I 4 A 5 LD 8 sv 3+

"Exocrine":

Heavy Support unit

3 S10 ap3 shoots or 1 S10 ap2 large blast ordnance

WS 4 BS 3 S 8(or 9, he wasn't sure) T 6 W 5 I 4 A 3 LD 8 sv 3+

Tyrannofex:

180 points

Rupture Cannon cost 20 points

Old One Eye:

300 points

It is an upgrade for a Carnifex brood, but it also can be an HQ option

4+ IWND

3+ FNP

2+ Save

Hive Tyrant:

160 points

BS4

Wings for 30 points

Mastery Level 2

Tervigon:

170 points

Mastery Level 2

Can take 1 of 3 upgrades for spawn: 4d6 spawn, or the no run out for doubles, or all gaunts (note that it includes Termas, Hormas and Gargoyles) benefit from Toxin sacs and Adrenal Glands

Also you can customize the spawn options for a cost, for example spawning hormagaunts or spinegaunts

Lictor:

Shrouded and Stealth

Doesn't scatter

Deathleaper:

All attacks are precision

Keeps the 5+ rending

Trygon:

6+2 (from Scything Talons) attacks, Initiative 5, WS 5

Bio electric field: 6 S6 ap5 shoots or a 5++ invulnerable save

Trygon Prime:

Gaping Maw experimental biomorph: If half or more of the attacks hit, a random model in b2b takes an Initiative test, if fails it is removed from play. According to him it has no limitations, so it can eliminate a Riptide or anything else.

Mawlocs:

140 points

1d3 blast with the ignores cover rule for its attack from below

Tyrant Guard:

Broods of 1-5

Lots of options

Hive Guard:

New gun is Spike Cannon, S7 ap4 2 shoots with Skyfire, enemy must reroll successful grounding tests

Gargoyles:

5 points

Fast Attack unit

Lost Blinding Venom

Hormagaunts:

5 points

Bounding Leap is charge after running

.

Swarmlord:

Mastery Level 3

Zoanthropes:

Mastery level 1, but generates 2 warp charges (for Warp Blast)

Venomthropes;

30 points:

Grants shrouded and defensive grenades in a 6" radius

And by the way, Pyrovores still suck.

Those rumors make me tingly in places we don't talk about in lucked, but I'm not buying them.

wow! hope it is true

This is great news!

Thanks for the rumors, Tyran!

Very interesting news... I'm drowning in salt, but many of these sound true. However, the report on Tervigons is suspicious because those rumors came from reddit (?) an were proven to be wish listing. I'd love it for them to be true, but that part makes me question the while thing. But, I really hope it's true...

Those Exocrine stats go against what we have been shown in the WD, for it's weapon.

I would like a lot of this to be true, and I suspected that the Harpy and Crone would not be ground-able from the start. I just feel like a lot of this is not.

Yeah that... that looks like wishlisting.

Guys, he went to this tour 6 weeks ago, so not all of it is going to be precise.

For the Tervigon part, he specified that you only can buy 1 upgrade of the 3.

Anyway we will know the truth in 2.5 weeks XD.

 -Loki- wrote:
This has been pretty wrong for the last few major releases. GW have been pretty conservative with new prices in Australia, while ballooning prices in the US and UK. It's almost as if they were using Australia as the price testbed, and once they saw price elasticity go to gak in Australia, they knew they hit their limit and are now working on raising other countries to match our prices. It also makes it less useful for us to order from overseas - the discount from our strong dollar is offset by those countries having equally ridiculous pricing.

My thoughts exactly. The release-based price increases have had the least impact on us because everyone else seems to be catching us, rather than blanket X% rises for each release worldwide.

"Exocrine":
Heavy Support unit

3 S10 ap3 shoots or 1 S10 ap2 large blast ordnance

WS 4 BS 3 S 8(or 9, he wasn't sure) W 5 I 4 A 3 LD 8 sv 3+

Here's a big shooty creature that does nothing but shoot all day, dreams about shooting when it isn't shooting, can only ever talk about shooting at parties (even HTH parties - it still talks about shooting), talks about shooting in its sleep, joined the Imperial equivalent to the NRA, and was genetically engineered and created by a massive galaxy-spanning intellect to do pretty much nothing beyond shoot at things.

And it has BS3.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

Toughness seems to be missing from his Haruspex and Exocrine stat lines.

Ups, corrected, it is T 6 in both cases.

 Tyran wrote:
Guys, he went to this tour 6 weeks ago, so not all of it is going to be precise.

For the Tervigon part, he specified that you only can buy 1 upgrade of the 3.

Anyway we will know the truth in 2.5 weeks XD.

well, this kinda flies in the face of how GW has been operating. I really doubt that anyone outside of the studio was shown a copy of the Codex that early, with the way GW has locked down rumors.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

"Exocrine":
Heavy Support unit

3 S10 ap3 shoots or 1 S10 ap2 large blast ordnance

WS 4 BS 3 S 8(or 9, he wasn't sure) W 5 I 4 A 3 LD 8 sv 3+

Here's a big shooty creature that does nothing but shoot all day, dreams about shooting when it isn't shooting, can only ever talk about shooting at parties (even HTH parties - it still talks about shooting), talks about shooting in its sleep, joined the Imperial equivalent to the NRA, and was genetically engineered and created by a massive galaxy-spanning intellect to do pretty much nothing beyond shoot at things.

And it has BS3.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

Be fair - most of the time you're going to be firing the ordnance shot, which 1 more BS wouldn't make a difference to.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

"Exocrine":
Heavy Support unit

3 S10 ap3 shoots or 1 S10 ap2 large blast ordnance

WS 4 BS 3 S 8(or 9, he wasn't sure) W 5 I 4 A 3 LD 8 sv 3+

Here's a big shooty creature that does nothing but shoot all day, dreams about shooting when it isn't shooting, can only ever talk about shooting at parties (even HTH parties - it still talks about shooting), talks about shooting in its sleep, joined the Imperial equivalent to the NRA, and was genetically engineered and created by a massive galaxy-spanning intellect to do pretty much nothing beyond shoot at things.

And it has BS3.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...

Here, have my exalt.

If even half that is true my bank account is going to take a HUGE hit... catalyst on old one eye makes him a 1 model deathstar... I actually giggled evilly at some of that so here's really hoping at least some of it is true *crosses fingers*

That's all really cool stuff, hard to believe but most new codices are like that.

So catalyst granting +1 to FNP and IWND must mean access to biomancy is still available. It seems completely designed to pair with endurance. Also a 2+ FNP old one eye -- nids with a 2+ rerollable!

Adrenals giving a benefit to run rolls and hormagaunts getting to run + assault isn't as broken as it appears on paper. At their fastest they'd only be able to charge 3" further than beasts. It's still nice to see speed as a factor though - adding 3 to my Trygon and carnifex run rolls will be awesome. Also seeing a 2+ save available to fexes again makes me happy.

A teaser for escalation was up 7d before white dwarf. Here's hoping we see a nid trailer tomorrow night in the US.