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Xanthos wrote:By the way Migs, did you check your PM´s?

Migs is so popular, it takes him 30 minutes to get through all the PM loving.

Malika2 wrote:So wait, Inquisitors have the stats of normal gang leaders etc?

How would this go for Space Marines then? Would they have their normal 40k stats or something completely different?

I'd love to work on some =][= supplement which isn't based on Inquisitorial stuff but more on local crimelords, PDF, smugglers, etc. Xenos would also be cool to include there in the longer run I guess.

What kind of Dark Heresy elements do you want to include in here?

I view the Inquisitors/Leaders as Inquisition field agents such as Eisenhorn, Ravenor, and the like. They aren't Inquisitor Lords or space marines, and wouldn't have superhero stats. In the first Eisenhorn book, he describes having to search for his eyeglasses to read something. My thought on the subject is that if you want to play with Inquisitor Lords, you need to be playing 40K, not Necromunda.

The biggest difference between the 2nd ed stat line and 3rd and beyond is the loss of the Movement stat. Add the movement stat in, and you can use just about any unit from 3rd edition and beyond in the necro universe.

I actually changed "hired guns" to "Special Request Operatives". This is where the Officio Assassinorum operatives come from, as well as space marines and sisters of battle. Their cost has to be paid at the start of each battle and must be justified. Things like this is where a GM is really necessary.

As far as the DH stuff, I'm still skimming and deciding what is useful in the TTG and what should stay in the RPG.

[Edited to address the stat question]

Ok, sorry it took so long with the PMs, didn't realise I had some waiting.

As for the rules etc. discussion, I'd like to emphasize it's about the group having fun and building a set that matches. No two groups will be the same, and no universal rules set will be perfect Just take the bitz you like and shake!

I can see where your coming from on this mate. The only thing is I don't think many groups will be lucky enough to have as creative and dedicated a GM as yourself at the helm.

Standardised rules would at least provide a good jumping off point for those with the imagination to develop stories through RPG elements.

Looking forward to seeing more of your thoughts on rules and even more so, your mini's!

Cheers,

Dante

Done.



and a rare glimpse to my rather radical painting process



This is the first figure of my next gang (or they are NPCs really) But this gang only has 3 models, as Alpharius is going to be so expensive and formidable. The Shades of Greye gang is pretty much done, this second installment is inspired by Legion the book, moonlight! and autumn. The model has inspired me to write a new story too. Got a lot of comments from my modeling/painting guru friends on this one. Really happy they liked him so much. Honestly I am a little surprised too as I really painted with no "filters". As has been the trend, I just went with the raw vision and flow.

Very cool! No scales though?

A very interesting method you've used to paint him too, would never have guessed you started with a yellow base!

At first I thought the head looked too small but on reflection, its perfectly sized to represent a marine in such thick, heavy armour. The old school bolter is a nice touch. Love the weathering effects too.

MORE!

Cheers,

Dante

Damn, you made my first Alpha Legionnaire I finished painting today look pale in comparison, however I love all the freehand and the grime. I might just have to borrow that XX idea on the shoulder pad.

Still, I find it intriguing how you painted him, I've never seen yellow be used before on them.

I'm also rather excited about your next gang, I was considering doing something similar too actually. What are your plans on that one?

@Platuan4th: If it were Old English it'd be something like "sċead of grǽg" .

That looks amazing. I love the blending, but think the weapon is maybe a bit too small. I might have to try my hand at a gang, though I'm sure it won't compare to the amazingness of this thread.

Just noticed the Chaos Spawn hand reaching for him in the last pic.

SoG

Aww great... And just as my jaw recovers from your previous models, you go and make it drop again.....

He looks brutal! I was actually looking at the very bit that you used for the close combat weapon earlier and thought "hmm, wouldn´t that look cool on some model"..

And lo, it doth!

Painting looks very good too, I was thinking that the face could use a little more color, but with him being thousands of years old, his skin could very well have gotten a bit grey...

See now that's just awesome.

lol this is simply ridiculous.
I was really expecting something extraordinary, but that guy simply blows everything away i have seen so far.

The blue works well with the green tones, the freehand is simply awesome, the chest adornment, the heraldry, ....

The face as well as the wear and tear on the armour really finish it off nicely. He truly looks like a veteran, chaosified, but without the regular spikyness and such. It works so well, Im simply astounded. Last but not least, the weaponry really ties the heresy feel together. The falxe works very well and looks like a fitting and elegant weapon for a marine. The old school bolter is the same.

Very elegant, but at the same time savage and brutal.
Awesome, you have outdone yourself.

Wow. I mean, it's a great thread to follow, easy to read posts from the originator, as well as everyone else, but, the sheer talent of the models. Wow.

Now...I see your steps for painting Alpharius. Let me try to clear this up...brush or airbrush? And, I'm fully assuming those lines in the final stage are free-hand.

Amazing models from all...Northen, Hammer, Migs...stunning work. Conversions, paint, bases...all of it. Can't wait to see more.

Blood

Best yet. Hands down.

SonofGuilliman wrote:@Platuan4th: If it were Old English it'd be something like "sċead of grǽg" .

SoG

Yes, you're right. I did, of course, mean to refer to something more akin to Early Modern English, but my brain switched off and type a capital "O"(and the word old to begin with). I swear it has to do with working in a book store and having to listen to high "skool" students who have no idea of language history(the same kind who require the "translated" versions of Shakespeare).

I figured as much, I just thought I'd be a bit of a jerk and have some fun.

SoG

Brilliant, of course...

This is amazing man, you've taken such a minimalist approach to this model and yet there's so much history and personality there. You instantly get the impression that there's 10,000 years of story here, but not so over-wrought in the traditional chaotic appearance, that you bend to old stereotypes about his motives.
This marine feels incredibly unique, and as usual you've embedded so much narrative in the modeling.

Excellent work Mig, can't wait for more.

very nice! The biggerized marine looks 100% better than the normal dwarf with broken hips we normally associate with marines. The blue color you worked your way up to is fantastic, and the layering up from yellow makes for some really natural highlighting.

I am not sure what is going on with his left knee pad though. Looks a bit strange to me.

Also, what is the figure with the genestealer claw in the last picture?

Wow! That Alpha Legionnaire is the coolest one I've ever seen! I really need to start working on some sort of "Anargo Package" for =][=munda so you guys have yet another setting to play your games in!

Thanks for the kind word Gentlemen!! Has this thread come alive or not as of late So happy to finally get the discussion flowing, around the P&M forum actually. Thanks for al the new guys who have joined too!

I was meant to say something smart, but I am a little floored by all the kind comments on a fairly "radical" production.

Oh - no airbrush - don't own one, but want to try one some day.

Yeah, it´s really catching on!

Airbrushing is great fun, and a good way to do vehicles I´ve found, also great for bases.

I don´t do more than undercoats on the actual models though, not sure if that can work, but my hand certainly isn´t steady enough...

Grats on more than 12K views by the way!

I would love to get my hands on a good airbrush and have the time to practice with it and develop the skills needed to do some of the fantastic work I have seen with them. Would love to see what you could pull off with one Migs.

I was looking at the flagellant heads I have again and realised what bugs me about them. They're such great pieces yet they lack eyes! It frustrates me terribly when I can't paint eyes in for some reason?!

Looking forward to more!

Cheers,

Dante

I'm still getting my head round the fact that you used a white undercoat.

Amazing looking model!
What's the purpose/effect of the yellow undercoat, followed by the blue over-undercoat, on parts like the armor trim (which then get a metallic treatment)? Do the undercoats show much on the final version? I'm intrigued.

CMDante wrote:

I was looking at the flagellant heads I have again and realised what bugs me about them. They're such great pieces yet they lack eyes! It frustrates me terribly when I can't paint eyes in for some reason?!

You can paint them eyes, it's just somewhat harder. I painted pallid orbs for this guy, shaded in the pics though. I actually really love the sinister look of either black or white orbs. The =I= had black orbs.

The Crypt Ghoul heads are perfect though, those tiny little eyes that are so nice to pick out.


Tinfoil - The trim in silver was something I tried to see if I could do without, but didn't want to in the end. Elsewhere the yellow (actually lime/lemon), though broken into green, shows quite a bit on the edges.

Here's a little update for sinister hit men of syndicate too. Syndicate sniper, Lucas.

I promised this way too long ago, but got sidetracked from modeling for few weeks.

WIP




Painted




Death By Monkeys: Celenas head is from sister repentia with an open eye hole closed with green stuff.

Migs: Alpharius is one sweet a** model,

Bleeping bleep, that is one heck of a cool model Northen!

This whole "takin´ your time and gettin´ it right" thing is really growing on me.

That´s the beauty of a project like this.

Since you know you won´t need 100 models, you can really spend time on making each one perfect.

Interesting choice of model also. Prince Yriel? Beautiful conversion anyways, love the frreehand on the cloak.

Nice and subdued colors also.

Thanks Xanthos.

Yeah, it has prince Yriel for base, swapped the arms, some re-work on the hair and scratch builded the sniper rifle.

And have to admit it's not freehand, the pattern comes sculpted on to the cloack.

And it's nice to see you have an =I= munda blog going too

Mig that space Marine is all kinds of awesome.

Totall captures how I envision the Alpha Legion after reading 'Legion'.

Your thread and the maniacal work of the other scandinavians has pushed me to do up an =][= gang for our local necromunda league, primarily due to a lack of readily available necromunda models at a reasonable price.

I forsee many people doing the same around the world.

Keep up the good work.

Migsula, I've sat here looking through this log for the past couple months but the sheer crazy-good quality of all of the work here finally made me decide to join dakkadakka, so I thank you for that. In the meantime though, it seems like a number of people have been equally inspired by this log and have made their own versions, and I feel inclined to do the same if I can get together enough forces and convince my roommates to join in. I'm also happy Northern has continued to add to his gang, because I really like the idea of a group of people making all of these gangs together and coordinating an enthralling story to go with the figures.

That being said, I am inclined to agree that coming up with a coherent system(s) for playing =I= munda would be very beneficial to those of us lacking a group of very engaged players. I found this in the Skirmish Scale Games section:

http://www.worldinarms.info/

It's basically Mordheim with 40k gangs and it seems to be pretty effective. Nonetheless, I think it'd be a great idea to come up with a couple of rule sets to help everyone out.

This blog is my favorite 40k concept I've ever come across! The gritty, dark and twisted nature of all the models screams John Blanche and I really think that's what 40k is all about.

Hobby projects for this week: A short story of the Legionnaire + I'm painting the Chaos Spawn seen in some of the WIP shots at the moment. The plan is to make a "master class" (or a major screwup) of how to use the new citadel washes, their inks and TAMYA clear paints for a fast and impressively disgusting scheme. There's only one thin layer of paint, rest is all inks/washes.

Pics as soon as I am done, which will be next week because a business trip and those damn slow drying washes.

Then it's Sgt. Jargassor. A character born in the campaign, formerly a pdf guy, who now needs a proper model.