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Technically all Eldar are psychic though, right? Maybe they evolved extremely subtle forms of psychics that don't attract Slaanesh...much.

Of course, given the codex writer -- who I like, don't get me wrong -- they'll be opening up huge chasms in the ground, etc.

Well that's depressing, from what you posted were losing drugs and suddenly becoming just as good as craftworld eldar. Hopefully the rest of the codex will be good enough to ignore that.

Losing drugs sounds totally unrealistic. Maybe they work differently but I seriously doubt that the Dark Eldar aren't going to have drugs, especially after just reading that new DE story. Also, DE psykers? Really, think about that guys. That implies that just about everything we know about DE (which isn't much) is going to be retconned.

Where are those salt macros?

I would find it very surprising to see drugs taken from the DE. Maybe its the new wave of making everything similar but drrugs were a really cool thing that made the DE different. Plus, I would miss the chance of ODing on drugs - its sucks when it happens but it is also pretty funny.

Simple reason.

2000: GW Target Audience = 17-18+ gamers
2010: GW Target Audience = 8 year olds with rich parents

So they're keeping drugs in because of the young rich kids, make sense. ;-)

@Hokiecow: Good point, bad avatar/username. (went to UVA)

I doubt GW would keep the concept of drugs out of 40k because the target age has allegedly decreased.

Manchu wrote:Losing drugs sounds totally unrealistic. Maybe they work differently but I seriously doubt that the Dark Eldar aren't going to have drugs, especially after just reading that new DE story. Also, DE psykers? Really, think about that guys. That implies that just about everything we know about DE (which isn't much) is going to be retconned.

Where are those salt macros?

Counterpoint: You shouldn't always believe everything that comes from the Black Library? As you admit, there isn't a whole lot for them to redo, they might as well approach this from a new angle while keeping some stuff (Commoragh, raiding aspect, etc.) the same, while changing others (no psykers, drug use/combat drugs). We won't know until someone outside of GW gets a hold of the codex.

Manchu wrote:That implies that just about everything we know about DE (which isn't much) is going to be retconned.

I thought we already knew this for at least a year, hinted from the people in the know?

There is no real way to build on two lines of fluff, Drug crazed sadists kidnap slaves to ward off....commoorragggagg etc.

I actually hope I have a whole new story to read.

^
yes, the fluff needs to be more elaborate. The old codex is just to thin for my liking. A big part of fluff will make me like the codex more. (Fluff is important to me.)

There is a lot of color in the old dex. That's one thing that I've noticed that has not gotten better with the new books. In preparation for this release, I went out and bought the current DE dex in large part to have the color scheme and conversion references. I am excited to see what if any new schemes are presented in the new dex but doubt it will have the same amount of variety.


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bhsman wrote:Counterpoint: You shouldn't always believe everything that comes from the Black Library?

That's a good point. A 40k Marine and a BL Marine are two very different animals, just to give the most glaring example. But the same team keeps an eye on the IP development across the board. I can't see BL putting out a short story full of references to DE using combat drugs on the eve of publsihing a dex where they are retconned into oblivion.

Who knows, maybe Fritz misread something. Maybe he's full of it. I was more surprised by the mention of psykers.

Really blurry picture time! Incubi!

Combat drugs should be renamed Combat Chemical Implants, if they're worried about the rich kids

:O Finally, MORE two handed swords

I hate DE.

well. Put them on square bases and they might make ok Slaanesh Chosen for Fantasy.

as far as being Eldar? they're terrible.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Really blurry picture time! Incubi!

Interesting I guess. No staff/halberd though?

Gutsnagga wrote:I hate DE.

Thats wonderful

Yeah, 'cause you can really get a good feel for the detail in such a terrible picture Athera.

Are you always so acerbic?

Cool to see some pics, blurry or not. I'll reserve judgement until I see them more clearly.

Thank you sir.

I'd found that on /tg/ and was debating posting it. Thank'ye for taking that particular debate out of my hands, HBMC.

And before anyone asks, I did not steal them from Warseer.

fething awesome, HBMC. Thanks!

I'm so glad that they don't have the Santa's elves scorpion tails anymore. Striking Scorpions be damned.

But is it true that your source is /tg/?

Look very promising...

Just simply stunning! I might have to buy some DE just for the beautiful models.

whitedragon wrote:Look very promising...

Your new avatar perhaps?

Those are some nice looking models.

Judging by that picture, they blow the current incubis out of the water imo. (And I already like the current ones)

Manchu wrote:fething awesome, HBMC. Thanks!

I'm so glad that they don't have the Santa's elves scorpion tails anymore. Striking Scorpions be damned.

But is it true that your source is /tg/?

I believe him. /tg/ can be reliable sometimes (I was there during a SW leak)

But man, I went there and theres a mod? Eh I loved free for all /tg/.

Those models are great. Loving the wicked take on back-fins, the specialized headgear that is sort of reminiscent of Aspect Warriors, and the weaponry. The poses are great too, decent dynamicism despite the planted feet.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah, 'cause you can really get a good feel for the detail in such a terrible picture Athera.

Are you always so acerbic?

Ironic LOL

Ya know, on second look, those horns look...demonic even...