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...your miniatures.

Good day ladies and gentlemen. Have you ever bought those second hand miniatures off Ebay or Bartertown that you got a really good deal on because they’re covered in twelve layers of a ten year old’s attempt at art? Do you have a stockpile of old mini’s that you got when you were first in the hobby and painted them up like a four year old on crack? I’ve noticed while searching many boards that there are a lot of tutorials about painting, green stuffing, converting, dipping, air brushing and the like but I could only find peoples’ opinion posts about stripping paint off miniatures. Well, I saw the need and would like to add my own two cents worth of advice. First, let me start by saying I don’t consider myself an expert or a guru of stripping. (heh) The following is only my opinion and your way of doing things could very well be a better way for you. So now that I’ve added the disclaimer let me get on with it.

Types of Stripping: (again… heh)
I may not mention your favorite stripping agent here so if I overlook it please take no offense.

Pinesol- I’ve tried this method but the fumes are killer and it melts plastic if the mini’s are left in too long. There’s a lot of scrubbing to be done to get all the paint off.

Fantastic- Good for plastic but I’ve never had much luck in it removing paint.

Brake Fluid- I’ve tried this method and the rumor of melted plastic is true. Also, it’s not very ecologically friendly.

Oven Cleaner- Never tried it but if you read the can it says toxic if inhaled. Not really my idea of a good time on a Saturday night.

Gasoline- Okay, never tried it… never will. The possibility for cataclysmic disaster is just too great for me.

Simple Green- I’ve tried this with little success. Won’t damage plastic, is biodegradable (plus), and smells nice. (Weird I know)

Castrol Super Clean- To me the Godsend of strippers. (okay, again… heh) This is the agent I use and have had nothing but luck. So, yeah, you probably guessed it, this is the stuff I’ll be using in this tutorial. I’ve never had a plastic melt down using CSC. In fact, when we moved to our new house I found a tub of plastic minis that I had left to soak and forgot about. No damage… 11 months later. And, it’s biodegradable so you can wash it down your sink. This is a major plus for me.

Supplies:

1 gallon jug of Castrol Super Clean (CSC)- Can be bought in any automotive store or Wal-Mart type store. Comes in a purple jug for about $4.00.

CSC... the quicker taker outer

Biodegradable... YAY!!!!

Sealable container- I use those disposable plastic tubs you put your leftovers in. However, any sealable plastic container will do.
Stiff bristle tooth brush- Key word, stiff. No soft on the teeth delicate momma’s brush here. I use my wife’s. Don’t tell her.
Nitrile rubber gloves- These are a must. The picture below shows the damage that can occur if you don't use the proper safety gear. This is after 4 days of healing. Trust me, the pain is pretty bad. You can get a dozen pairs for $1.28 at Wal-mart. They even come in pretty purple.

May cause burns?... BS!! WILL cause burns!

OW ow ow ow ow ow ow ow

Exacto knife- Careful, these little buggers are sharp.
Paper towels- Just something to lay your mini’s on to dry. I don’t recommend using a wife’s/girl friend’s shirt for this. Trust me on this one, okay. (see tooth brush above)
Miniatures- Well, duh. Plastic or metal. Makes no difference.

God aweful painted ebay extras

Dish soap- My wife keeps buying different scented soap so use whatever you have on hand. This week it’s strawberry at the Casa de Kutzmon.

All this and you're ready to go


The Process:

Fill container to a level that will completely submerge the mini’s in the CSC.

Drop in mini’s.

Get down you!

Seal container. There is a bit of an odor from the CSC but I kinda like it. It’s almost an industrial minty smell. Okay, I’m a bit weird on that. I also like diesel exhaust. Anyway, it keeps the smell on the inside of the tub and if you have a wife like mine you’ll put the lid on. (Again, see tooth brush above)

Yep... it's a sealed container

Here’s the hardest part… wait. I usually soak mine overnight. I’ve gotten ahead of myself a couple of times and only let the mini’s soak a couple of hours. Trust me, it’s better to wait. It cuts down on the scrubbing and it will stop you from saying, “So, Kutzmon, where’s the magic of the CSC?” I’ve had to re-soak after being impatient.

Next day. Take your tub o’mini’s, the tooth brush, (Ahhh, right where she always leaves it) the nitrile gloves, the paper towels (or equivalent) and head over to your favorite sink. I use the kitchen sink when the Mrs. isn’t around and she hasn’t suspected a thing. Cleanup is a cinch. Otherwise it’s off to the basement and the utility sink. I hate the laundry room. It’s uncomfortable to work in and there’s always that basket full of laundry I feel guilty about not doing. But I get over it.

Ready to go.

Lay down your paper towel next to the sink. Fill the sink with about 4” of hot water. Don your nitrile gloves. (Please, do this step. Chemical burns suck!)
Open your tub, grab out the first mini- careful, they’re slimy and hard to hold on to- and get to work with the brush.

Out of the Dip.

The paint should just peel off with little effort. Pay close attention to the little recesses.

Brusha brusha brusha

This is where the paint is usually the hardest to scrub off. If your miniatures were assembled with super glue they will fall apart. The CSC doesn’t seem to effect model glue at all. Maybe because model glue welds the plastic? Hmm… have to look into that one. Also, it seems that black primer is a bit of a bear to get off your plastic mini’s. It appears to stain plastic. I’ve never been able to get a plastic miniature completely clean when primed in black.
Rinse off your mini in the hot water and place on the towel.

Lookin' good

Just a note here, I like to place my parts together for each mini. This way you can track what pieces may be lying in the dip or the bottom of the sink.

Icky

I can usually strip around 20 complete miniatures in about 10 minutes. Then I have to take a break and stretch. Bending over the sink is hard on the back.


When all your little treasures are looking spiffy and clean run your hand around the bottom of your sink to make sure you have all your pieces. Nothing sounds so bad as a bolter in the garbage disposal. Drain the water. Wash the sink with a bit of dish soap to remove any CSC. Rinse thoroughly.

Refill the sink with about 6 inches of hot water and a bit of dish soap to give you a nice foamy bath.

Nice and soapy

Drop all your miniatures back in the sink. Agitate the mini’s to give them a thorough wash. You need to get all the CSC off in order for your new paint to stick. Rinse your mini’s to remove the soap.

Rinsed and relaxed

Take your exacto knife and scrape off any super glue remaining. This usually just flicks off when I clean up. The CSC breaks the bond but needs a little help in total removal.

Leave mini’s to dry. Replace wife’s toothbrush in holder.

If you’re cheap like me you can put a coffee filter in the top of the CSC jug and pour your dip back into the supply. You’ll be surprised what’s left in the filter and the bottom of the dip tub. I’ve had the same jug for two years and it’s never lost it’s ability to strip paint. It’s been through 50 high elves, 60 Empire guys, 75 IG, almost 150 marines, and a few vehicles as well.

Well, there you have it. Nice clean mini’s ready for trading, painting, or whatever you would do with nice clean minis.

Oops, missed a spot of green there

The post scrubbing clean up is pretty simple and quick. I just take a warm soapy cloth and clean up the surrounding area of any over spray from the brushing. My wife still doesn’t know about the kitchen sink but she’s starting to dislike the taste of her toothbrush.

Nice and clean... she'll never know


On an end note you’ll notice that the head from the RT era body is missing from the final picture. Remember when I said to run your hand around the bottom of the sink after rinsing? Yeah, I skipped this step… beaky heads make a hell of a racket when going through the garbage disposal…

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Excellent guide!

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'On an end note you’ll notice that the head from the RT era body is missing from the final picture. Remember when I said to run your hand around the bottom of the sink after rinsing? Yeah, I skipped this step… beaky heads make a hell of a racket when going through the garbage disposal…'

i use a sieve - place all the gunked-up minis in, then rinse off - unless the tap is fully on you should loose anything! Don't rinse off your rice the next day (or any day) however - buy one specially for mini-rinsing

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Yup, that's the ticket: CSC, toothbrush, & sink.

CSC is so good, it's foolish to bother with anything else.

   
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Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.

yeah that's impressive. I'm glad you pointed out the wearing gloves.

I use Simple Green and I find it weakens plastic a bit so I pretty much swore off getting plastic minis off of ebay (I like to put em together myself anyway).

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Tacobake wrote:yeah that's impressive. I'm glad you pointed out the wearing gloves.

I use Simple Green and I find it weakens plastic a bit so I pretty much swore off getting plastic minis off of ebay (I like to put em together myself anyway).


Forgive my ignorance.
What do you mean by "weakens plastic a bit?"
Are you saying the plastic gets soft & pliable? brittle? Something else entirely?

I haven't used CSC before (or stripping minis at all... I'm a bit of an elitist on that LOL), but I might give it a shot.

Thanks.

Eric

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Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.

MagickalMemories wrote:
Tacobake wrote:yeah that's impressive. I'm glad you pointed out the wearing gloves.

I use Simple Green and I find it weakens plastic a bit so I pretty much swore off getting plastic minis off of ebay (I like to put em together myself anyway).


Forgive my ignorance.
What do you mean by "weakens plastic a bit?"
Are you saying the plastic gets soft & pliable? brittle? Something else entirely?

I haven't used CSC before (or stripping minis at all... I'm a bit of an elitist on that LOL), but I might give it a shot.

Thanks.

Eric


I just find it tends to make it fragile to toothbrushing. Not a Space Marine but if you toothbrushed a Guardian or a Skink I would expect the more delicate parts to bend or snap off. At first I thought it was the toothbrush but I've had the same problem with the tips of Tyranid Warrior tails.

I guess I'd say soft with a low, what do mechanical engineers call it? I don't want to say they're brittle, more like a rubber band that can't stand up to force. Tensile strength. Not really brittle, I don't think they would break if you dropped them, they're just kind of ... weak ... and breaky.

brittle, in other words .

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As a Mech. E, the phrase that jumps into my head is "modulus of elasticity", which refers to the ability of something to flex or bend without permanent effects (i.e. breakage).

   
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They break down if left over in simplegreen.

I have a few with one or two less faces.

Great Guide. I hope this stuff works, I've got a tub of RT orks that need some CSC Love.

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Great guide- thanks!

I've been using Brake fluid. Maaaaaaybe nicely stripped minis aren't worth skin cancer or any of the other blessings of Nurgle. Hmmm.

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Grot... no glove ... extremely painful chemical burn... and then there's the CSC...

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Well I kind of moved near Toronto, actually.

JohnHwangDD wrote:As a Mech. E, the phrase that jumps into my head is "modulus of elasticity", which refers to the ability of something to flex or bend without permanent effects (i.e. breakage).


that's it. ah Mech. E, would that I had my entire undergraduate/ life to do over again.

Grot 6 wrote:They break down if left over in simplegreen.

I have a few with one or two less faces.


I think it has to do with the quality of the plastic. Funny how GW can't seem to get it consistent, must be something about changing price of materials.

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Not sure if it's available in the US but for metal figs there is one product that beats all others hands down... Nitromorse.
Admittedly it's lethal stuff but what do you expect for a gel that strips the paint in seconds, yes seconds. Not only does it work fast but it works properly, that is to say you will not have to use a blade or even a brush, just dunk, wait a handful of seconds and rinse – job done.
   
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Where do you get it? In which countries is it available?


 
   
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Ah, this is great. I have a plastic 'fex that has about 5 or 6 layers of different-colored paint on it that could reeeeeally use some CSC.

   
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warpaint wrote:Not sure if it's available in the US but for metal figs there is one product that beats all others hands down... Nitromorse.
Admittedly it's lethal stuff but what do you expect for a gel that strips the paint in seconds, yes seconds. Not only does it work fast but it works properly, that is to say you will not have to use a blade or even a brush, just dunk, wait a handful of seconds and rinse – job done.


uhm...yikes.

I've used CSC on some models (Heck, I think I even read the suggestion here a while back), and it worked great. I didn't exactly heed the warning about the 'may cause burns', and that was not a pleasent experience! My second attempt had gloves, and was much happier
   
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yep, for metal you cant beat Nitro Mors. gets everything shiny new really quick, melts the hell outta plastic...literally will melt it completely and is as toxic as anything, it burns and gives off nasty fumes but is meant for taking paint off car bodys so is super good at its job.

For plastic I've been using oven cleaner which only works with a LOT of scrubbing and even then its not a great result. I tried using brake fluid for the first time yesterday and it worked a treat.

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yeah...
Sweet tutorial.
So does anyone know what the equivilent UK product would be?

Panic...
yeah...

   
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Great! I have some horribly painted minis that I need to strip because I pai.... I mean I bought them on e-bay and need to get rid of someone ELSE's horrible paintjob.... yeah that's the ticket.....yeah.

and I thought I had stubby finger syndrome.... hehe. Thanks for the thorough tutorial. I have read many examples but this one is not only written well, the pics make it perfectly clear and easy to follow.



 
   
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I've used nitromors for stripping metal figs before, it's available in the UK in a green tin bottle, and is highly effective. http://www.choiceful.com/choiceful-id-5124-Nitromors-Paint-and-Varnish-Remover-5Ltr.html

How does CSC treat resin?

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Instead of a sticky, I'll work on adding this to the painting
and modeling section in articles unless someone else wants to do it
(which I NEVER mind when others volunteer!)

Yeah, I'll do it.

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If anyone has a picture of their own painted stripper pole
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heh, nice job Malfred, I had bookmarked this tutorial to convert it into an article on saturday. Ah well

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Morskul wrote:How does CSC treat resin?
Well, I used it on a FW Tau Crisis Suit, and it came out just fine.

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Stupid question: is Super Clearn (with no mention of castrol) the same as Castrol Super Clean? I bought and used some Super Clean recently, and I love it, but I didn't use gloves and it didn't really bother my skin at all. I'm wondering if I got a different product.
   
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Hm... I should start collecting different methods of stripping minis. I've tried several myself, but yours looks better than most I use.

 
   
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Just gave this a go and it works as advertised. Best stripper I've ever used.

I let plastics soak for 5 days with no damage.

New version of the product isn't made by Castrol anymore but it's the same thing in similar packaging and is just called "Super Clean".

   
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