5th edition and Dark Elves on Alliance Games...

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**Ghaz**

... including a few headscratchers that have flown under the radar so far:

++WARHAMMER 40,000++

GAW 35-31 40K CSM Chaos Space Marines $8.00
GAW 35-32 40K EL Guardians $8.00
GAW 35-33 40K IG Cadians $8.00
GAW 40-02-N 40K Rulebook 5th Ed Hardback $50.00
GAW 40-07 40K Apocalypse Vol II $25.00
GAW 43-99 40K CSM Renegade Strike Force $240.00
GAW 48-99 40K SM Strike Force $200.00
GAW 49-99 40K NC Warrior Phalanx $200.00
GAW 51-99 40K TY Assault Brood $180.00
GAW 64-06 TR Citadel Battlemat $30.00
GAW 65-06 40K Template Set $6.00
GAW 65-29 40K Counter Set $15.00

++WARHAMMER++

GAW 85-01-N WHF DE Dark Elf Army Book $22.00
GAW 85-02 WHF DE Dark Elf Spearhead $192.00
GAW 85-08-N WHF DE Black Ark Corsairs $22.00
GAW 85-11-N WHF DE Cold One Knights $22.00
GAW 85-13-N WHF DE Dark Elf Battalion $90.00
GAW 85-14-N WHF DE War Hydra $40.00
GAW 85-15 WHF DE Witch Elves $20.00
GAW 85-16-N WHF DE Witch Elves Command $22.00
GAW 85-17 WHF DE Executioners $20.00
GAW 85-18 WHF DE Executioner Command $22.00
GAW 85-19 WHF DE Black Guard $20.00
GAW 85-20 WHF DE Black Guard Command $22.00
GAW 85-21 WHF DE Shades $20.00
GAW 85-35 WHF DE Assassin $10.00
GAW 85-37 WHF DE Lokhir Fellheart $6.00
GAW 85-43-N WHF DE Dreadlord $6.00
GAW 85-44 WHF DE Dreadlord On Cold One $10.00
GAW 85-45-N WHF DE Supreme Sorceress On Cold One $10.00
GAW 85-46-N WHF DE Supreme Sorceress $6.00
GAW 85-55 WHF DE Morathi On Dark Pegasus $25.00
GAW 85-56 WHF DE Shadowblade Assassin $6.00

++LORD OF THE RINGS++

GAW 06-95-N LTR Shagrat & Gorbag $20.00

So what is Apocalypse Vol. 2 and these $8 Cadians, Guardians and Chaos Marines?

**JohnHwangDD**

Apocalypse vol.2 will be the new Datasheets, that's easy.

With Daemonettes dropping to $22 for 10, the $8 sets should be something like 5 Cadians / 4 Guardians / 3 CSM. But that's kind of wierd packaging unless GW is saying that they've recouped their tooling investment and are trying to generate more incremental sales. In that case, they could be as much as 10 Cadians / 6 Guardians / 5 CSM.

What intrigues me is the Counter Set. Since when does 40k have a counter set?

**H.B.M.C.**

No doubt Apoc Vol2. will be all the free PDF's put into a softback book. The will be titled:

Apocalypse Volume 2: We Haven't Got Enough Of Your Money Yet.

BYE

**H.B.M.C.**

Sine 5th Ed John. Since 5th Ed.

And the $8 sets? Probably snap-together figs.

BYE

**Tacobake**

doesn't look like they redid the Dark Elf range much to my eyes. Added a bit of flavour, maybe.

**JohnHwangDD**

The current 8-part Guardian is way too fiddly and could definitely use BfM-style simplification, that's for sure. And with the push for Troops, I wouldn't necessarily mind a re-release of the 2E 2-part Guardians to bulk up my force.

**yakface**

The other possibility for the vol 2 Apocalypse book could just be a soft cover reprint of it.

I'm sure the $8 sets are more of those starter boxes they came out with a long time ago for space marines, orks, etc. that had like 4 simple models for beginners to learn to paint on.

**The Phazer**

There was that "unreleased" snap fit sprue of 4 Cadians showed up on Warseer a few weeks ago.

Likely them. They'll be a bit like the old £5 sets they used to have for kids I imagine.

Phazer

**neofright**

New battlemat? I find that interesting...

**Darrian13**

I think I had heard about the battlemat. 4x6 roll-up with city on one side and woodland green on the other.

@Neofright/Patrick, Are you coming to the Game Empire 40K RTT on the 10th?

Darrian

**fellblade**

I am interested to see that Corsairs have become plastic, but not Dark Riders; and there is no sign of a plastic hero/bsb kit in the first wave.

**gorgon**

JohnHwangDD wrote:What intrigues me is the Counter Set. Since when does 40k have a counter set?

Considering all the 2nd ed. touches in the rumored new edition, I wouldn't be shocked to see the return of speed counters, wound markers, run counters, etc.

Of course, the difference now is that they don't come free in the boxed set.

**neofright**

Darrian13 wrote:I think I had heard about the battlemat. 4x6 roll-up with city on one side and woodland green on the other.

@Neofright/Patrick, Are you coming to the Game Empire 40K RTT on the 10th?

Darrian

Not sure if I will or not - one of my friends is coming to town from New Mexico for business on the 8th and he may stay through the weekend.

**Nurglitch**

There's already a pack of Warhammer Fantasy Battle counters. It makes sense to have Warhammer 40k ones, to represent troops falling back and whatnot.

**stonefox**

The counters are for everyone who hasn't already bought the GF9 versions, just like the vehicle dice/counters which came after the GF9 versions.

I'm wondering about the new strike force stuff. I think it's been said that planetstrike will come out next year so I assume this is just Codex: Overstock round 2?

**Stelek**

Nice catch.

All the stuff I won't be buying, in a nice concise list. lol

**Pariah Press**

Yeah, I don't see anything interesting here. I'll consider getting the 40K rulebook if it's to be considerably better than the one supplied with the boxed set.

**Savnock**

gorgon wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:What intrigues me is the Counter Set. Since when does 40k have a counter set?

Considering all the 2nd ed. touches in the rumored new edition, I wouldn't be shocked to see the return of speed counters, wound markers, run counters, etc.

Of course, the difference now is that they don't come free in the boxed set.

Major kudos to the first person that designs a good alternate counter set, and then distributes it for free on the intorweb. Seriously, I will buy 2 frosty beers at the LVGT for the person who has the skills and goodwill to do this. I lack any sort of graphical design ability, or I'd be trying to get you all to pitch in on a prize for someone doing this, and then would claim it myself

No, really. Someone should do this.

**Ghaz**

The Space Marine Strike Force, Necron Phalanx, etc. are just army deals to go along with the new edition. Nothing really special at all.

**malfred**

Savnock wrote:
gorgon wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:What intrigues me is the Counter Set. Since when does 40k have a counter set?

Considering all the 2nd ed. touches in the rumored new edition, I wouldn't be shocked to see the return of speed counters, wound markers, run counters, etc.

Of course, the difference now is that they don't come free in the boxed set.

Major kudos to the first person that designs a good alternate counter set, and then distributes it for free on the intorweb. Seriously, I will buy 2 frosty beers at the LVGT for the person who has the skills and goodwill to do this. I lack any sort of graphical design ability, or I'd be trying to get you all to pitch in on a prize for someone doing this, and then would claim it myself

No, really. Someone should do this.

People buy clear beads for warmachine and glue computer
printed counters to the bottom. The clear beads magnify the text
and weigh down the counters simultaneously.

I just use different colored beads, with green for buffs, red for bad
things and yellow for resources. It works out okay until I need too
many same colored counters for different effects.

**Boss Salvage**

I pay GF9 lots of money for nice fantasy templates, though I will admit that justifying that sort of 'luxory item' (i.e. could be built from scrath easily) is a rarity for me :S

- Salvage

**Polonius**

I tend to buy stuff like GF9 as a toll charge for where I game. I buy nearly all my GW stuff used, (either as OOP stuff or because I'm a cheap bastard), so I try to support my local shops by buying paints, White Dwarf, codices (I buy 'em all), etc on a regular basis.

**Savnock**

Good on you for supporting your FLGS and an indy manufacturer, Polonius!