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hi all this is my first try at converting and using green stuff, my first army other than ultra smurfs.
please let me know what you all think
C&C welcome

phill

The rhino with dead guard on it is freaky scary looking, as an IG player even I like it. Looking good, keep up the good work.

still more, marines wip and some back packs in verious stages

thanks 'ghost' (if i may call you that. . the idea was that papa nurgle gave the rhino a gift for the great service done. what better nurgle gift than 'extra armour' as he loves making us hard to kill. so i came up with the idea of a living 'slime' that acts as the extra armour, the catch being that you need to keep it alive and the only way to do that is feed it with the remains (living or dead) of defeated enemy. so you have to keep up the good work or you lose the gift. i kinda like that idea as it seems to fit well with DG/nurgle fluff.
also i went a bit crazy (thanks to cadavour!) modelling basic rhinos, but i want to keep my army very DG which means no tanks. just foot soldiers and a rhino or two. so i have a possessed rhino (the lower bs of 3 being shown by the 'giant' not looking where he is pointing the gun and having one eye covered in slime so he lacks depth perception etc) and one with extra armour.
coming up with different ideas for each marine is more challanging.....im thinking of changinf the shape of some shoulder pads.....what do you all think....good idea? there are only so many different 'fat belly's' i can come up with.
will post more when i have done more!

phill

ps. like i said im new to this so C&C very gratefully recieved thanks

Hey Phil, that's some gribbly work there.

I find my self relating to you on the art of miniature recycling! Noticed the blue plastic Genestealer hand straight away; I used to have a box of them and the parts ended up everywhere.

Just a quick question; what tools do you use? I messed around with a cocktail stick but all the little grooves I made threw green stuff ''hair'' up the sides. Bit of a nightmare to be honest. I found it hard to get a clean depression, so if you have any techniques, spill them!

Best of luck with the project.

wow, anti-mag its odd being asked for tips lol.
i mainly used the GW sculpting tool. slap on the green stuff, spread it about a bit, leaving it thicker in places you would expect to find the most slime and then make a hole in it, and from that centre point push out in all directions.
for the marines bellies i let the green stuff get a little harder once i have the basic shape im after, then with plenty of water ill use the pointy end of the tool and kinda make up what i think looks right as i go. i usually find all the 'stretchy/tight' looking parts are already there after i have made the basic shape and just need a little help.
i have also used the triangle shaped file from my set as it has a very fine point to it. so for the 'dots' i used this.
hope that helps
phill
ps. yes i have used a few hands. i have so many odd bits and bobs. the havoc launcher is sitting on the tri pod of an old dwarf weapon, the giant arm is an old GUO....etc etc. all good fun

Anti-Mag wrote:Hey Phil, that's some gribbly work there.

I find my self relating to you on the art of miniature recycling! Noticed the blue plastic Genestealer hand straight away; I used to have a box of them and the parts ended up everywhere.

Just a quick question; what tools do you use? I messed around with a cocktail stick but all the little grooves I made threw green stuff ''hair'' up the sides. Bit of a nightmare to be honest. I found it hard to get a clean depression, so if you have any techniques, spill them!

Best of luck with the project.

ahh yes the green stuff stickiness strikes again. I sometimes use a thin coating of Vaseline on my tools to prevent that. Some people use water or olive oil for the same purpose. I've tried all 3 and prefer the Vaseline (wow that just sounds so wrong ). Anyway, remember that you need to clean the surface after the putty hardens for painting or applying more green stuff.

thats a good tip chaosdave! thanks i shall give it a whirl....if i manage to get some that is.....still gotta be easier than the 'something for the weekend sir?' conversation

phill

Wow, the conversion work is awesome! I can't wait to see this painted.

Especially the Rhino with the Guard bodies.

Those are some of the coolest nurgle rhinos. Amazing.
Can't wait to see paint.

Okay. That Rhino takes the Demonic Possession vehicle upgrade to a new level. Wowsers!

The WORK on them is nice. Very well done.
I'm going to stick to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, mostly, in this reply... but keep in mind it's because most of my compliments would just repeat what's already been said.

Rhino 1: Daemonic Possession.
This is my favorite of the Rhinos... but I think you've made a mistake.
With the new TLOS rules, you can expect to almost never get a cover save. The size of the Daemon that's coming out of that baby is immense.
Like the metal arm and inclusion of the TL Bolter.
WAY too mych GS work for my tastes (I read your post, though. I understand what you were going for... it just doesn't "grab" me).

Rhino 2:
Even. More. Greenstuff.
I've covered my thoughts on the escessive GS work already, so I won't go any further on that.
I LOVE the inclusion of the IG, but I think you should have posed them differently. Leaving their feet as "stock" from the box makes their feet look weird while they hang from the front & sides of the tank.
I may swipe this idea some day, but the Guardsmen will be modeled as if trying to escape (their feet will be hidden), or I will cut & GS the legs/feet for more natural poses.

DG bellies... These are my least favorite of the lot. Something about the bellies just isn't grabbing me. They're not BAD looking... They just don't make me perk up & take notice. KWIM?

All in all, good effort and good job!

Eric

SSSSSSWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTT

Great GS work, i love the tank apart from the guardsmen(i play guard ) you should have used eldar or tau lol, Great work though.

I think you're doing a fantastic job, really making Papa Nurgle proud. Super GS'd rhinos are totally sweet and I like where you're going with the plague marine conversions. The pipes on the backpacks are looking good in particular (sort of Cadaver-esque, in the best possible way).

- Salvage

Thanks for the sig quote ChaosDave

Slimy, nasty, rotting disgusting, beautiful!

MagickalMemories wrote:The WORK on them is nice. Very well done.
I'm going to stick to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, mostly, in this reply... but keep in mind it's because most of my compliments would just repeat what's already been said.

Rhino 1: Daemonic Possession.
This is my favorite of the Rhinos... but I think you've made a mistake.
With the new TLOS rules, you can expect to almost never get a cover save. The size of the Daemon that's coming out of that baby is immense.
Like the metal arm and inclusion of the TL Bolter.
WAY too mych GS work for my tastes (I read your post, though. I understand what you were going for... it just doesn't "grab" me).

Rhino 2:
Even. More. Greenstuff.
I've covered my thoughts on the escessive GS work already, so I won't go any further on that.
I LOVE the inclusion of the IG, but I think you should have posed them differently. Leaving their feet as "stock" from the box makes their feet look weird while they hang from the front & sides of the tank.
I may swipe this idea some day, but the Guardsmen will be modeled as if trying to escape (their feet will be hidden), or I will cut & GS the legs/feet for more natural poses.

DG bellies... These are my least favorite of the lot. Something about the bellies just isn't grabbing me. They're not BAD looking... They just don't make me perk up & take notice. KWIM?

All in all, good effort and good job!

Eric

first off thank you a lot for your time and input.

i see what you mean about the guard feet. legs in general are bit of a bane of mine. i find them really hard to reposition (which is why my marines all stand the same way etc) to get that 'natural' look. they always end up looking like they had polio as kids. i shall have a look over the weekend and see if i can find a way to improve them. maybe just snip off the feet so they look submerged into the tank....hmmm.

the TLOS rule is one i hadnt thought about. i guess it is a bit too big to be considered a 'tail' or 'wing' etc . still, might help me hide my marines advance....we shall see how bad a mistake when i play with it.

as for the 'bellies' i think your right. they dont grab me completely either. i think the trouble i had here was not really knowing what i wanted to achieve. a few of them i really like like the guy with no bellie and bullet holes up one side with half his helmet blown off. i like that....it kinda tells a story. the fatter, stretched torsos are ok too. i love the split open chest plate and bellie idea, but this sums up my error i think. split by what? if its rot, slim, intestine etc then it should look as such. it looks like the armour has been split open by...er...armour. i wish i could say my painting will save the day but im not so hot at that either lol


to everyone else thanks! i confess to being a bit supised (and pleased!) by the responce. feel free to continue lol.

always looking to improve

phill

hi again,

so i have been thinking about paint colours etc.....feed back needed.

my basic idea is to have them painted in the old grey/white with green trim pre-heresy colours. but to nurgle up the scheme with washes. im thinking things like where a bullet hole in the armour exists to use very thin lines showing rot/pox spreading out from the hole over the armour. like ivy i guess. using brown/green paint/ink. to represent them not long after the heresy, so you can still see bits of the white armour albeit dirty. and for the eyes, i have a hankering for gold. i want a kinda otherworldly/evil power glow look. how does that sound?

and the vehicles.....again when you can see armour it will be dirty white, but as for the green stuff etc...any ideas?

because of this scheme im thinking of priming with white spray followed by the new washes.

any help,tips etc would be welcome!

thanks

phill

Color-wise, I agree with the idea to spray pure white base to start, and then shade with green and brown washes to get the "Nurgle" effect. Weapons can start chainmail and darken with the same washes for a corroded effect.

BTw, go with dark green and dark metallic shoulderpads / accents for visual contrast.

All I can say is that for a first time GS user that is some pretty good work.

Looking forward to the paint.

looking good so far keep up the good work, and from a fellow death guard player, Just great use of gs to gamke plague

JohnHwangDD wrote:Color-wise, I agree with the idea to spray pure white base to start, and then shade with green and brown washes to get the "Nurgle" effect. Weapons can start chainmail and darken with the same washes for a corroded effect.

BTw, go with dark green and dark metallic shoulderpads / accents for visual contrast.

i was going to go for dark green armour trim, probably all over, but what do you mean by 'and dark metalic'? where exactly. im a lil confused by what you mean.

many thanks

phill

yeah,
awesome work phil, the extra armour is crazy, and i thought the other rhino was going to count as a defiler!
Panic..

cool, lets see you paint it

perfect. i love that sort of really disturbing element of some parasite within the vehicle, much like with the soul grinder. spooky stuff, keep at it

thanks guys, your words really do inspire the soul, helping me trough the hours of removing flippin' mould lines :(.
sorry for the delay in updating i leant the camera to me sis for 'a few days'......some weeks ago!
i have finished modelling three/four squads of seven marines and about to finish some termies and a lord and typhus (i like to do all the GS at the same time so i have something to do when others are drying).
apart from having trouble getting my resin FW dread to actually stick together im putting off painting them....i just cant decide what to do....and after all this work i dont wanna muck it up...you know?
anyway will post more picks when i can
thanks again
phill

phillpowell wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:Color-wise, I agree with the idea to spray pure white base to start, and then shade with green and brown washes to get the "Nurgle" effect. Weapons can start chainmail and darken with the same washes for a corroded effect.

BTw, go with dark green and dark metallic shoulderpads / accents for visual contrast.

i was going to go for dark green armour trim, probably all over, but what do you mean by 'and dark metalic'? where exactly. im a lil confused by what you mean.

many thanks

phill

Hi Phil.

I was suggesting paint the pad interior dark green or boltgun metal - this gives some color / texture that contrasts against the plain white of the armor, and ties in with your washes. Simply doing the edge doesn't give enough contrast to the model, IMO.

If I were doing them, the shoulders would be dark green interior with boltgun metal edges or vice versa, depending on the effect I was going for.

/John

Very nice work, especially on the rhino, Keppe up the good work.

BDA

can't wait to see the painted models!! Looking good... I'm also a fist time GS user, and have to say that it wasn't as hard as I first thought it would be.