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Can anyone confirm if the new plastic Nobz will also have bitz to make flash gitz? If they do that would mean lots of extra bitz, and it would save me time of making them myself.

while i can neither confirm nor deny (senator) that the new plastic nobz set will be able to be converted to flash gitz this picture leads me and several other people to believe they will be.

http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn0389mq3.jpg

Comparing those pics with old ones they're nothing we haven't seen before. Choppas, fanzy Buzz Saw 'Uge Choppas, and Kombi-Wepunz (a Kombi-Rokkit in that pic, and we've seen a Kombi-Skorcha in another pic). I doubt they're a double kit like the Burner Boyz/Lootas.

That said, with the abundance of bits from all the Ork kits, making them into Flash Gits isn't going to be very hard at all.

BYE

Daggermaw wrote:while i can neither confirm nor deny (senator) that the new plastic nobz set will be able to be converted to flash gitz this picture leads me and several other people to believe they will be.

http://img356.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn0389mq3.jpg

What exactly about that picture leads you (and several others) to believe that there will be Flashgitz Bitz in the new Nobz set?

I mean, I am hoping that there will be, but...

Bah, I can't see the models very well, they need to learn that you don't need a flash on models that are already lit.

The guy that looks a bit like a flash git it probably just the combi-rokkitt like someone else said. It is kinda funny that the combi is a oneshot thing yet there are two rokkits.

Nice to see the Bad Moon boss pole.

Even with out the flash gitz options I am really looking forward to the plastic nobz. My metal ones are okay, the black reach ones are okay for fill ins for nob squads, can't really lead my boyz with just a choppa/slugga.

all i see are basic nobz.
one has a rokkit launcha (no shoota barell so not a kombi)
one has a uge choppa, ones in backround are black reach.

snazzguns are met to stand out by being big, and look very random (like a deffgun with no support cage) these are simply rokkits and slugga's.

im hoping there will be flash git options, but im not holding my breath.

Flash Gitz are more or less one of those DIY units.

JJ has previously said (at Adepticon a few years ago, and probably other places) that GW's policy to have a model for every entry in a codex. That doesn't guarantee it will happen. Maybe the nobz get some extra big gunz which we haven't seen, maybe it's a new kit. I'd guess the nobz get enough big gunz to build a unit (unless they do something incredibly stupid like the loota box and only give you 4 big gunz for 5 bodies).

As others have said, if they don't come out with it, it shouldn't be too hard to cobble together a few, and it'd certainly look more orky.

Flash Gitz are such a useless unit that the only way they will ever see use is to have them packaged as part of a nob blister.

olympia wrote:Flash Gitz are such a useless unit that the only way they will ever see use is when the next cdex comes out and they are 5 points each, armed with assault D6 lascannons

there, fixed the typo

olympia wrote:Flash Gitz are such a useless unit that the only way they will ever see use is to have them packaged as part of a nob blister.

I assume you are just a Goff git. A unit does not have to be "useful" to make you want to have some.

dietrich wrote:JJ has previously said (at Adepticon a few years ago, and probably other places) that GW's policy to have a model for every entry in a codex.

I'd like to still believe that, but GW changes the horse they're riding mid-race so often that I wonder if even care about their internal studio policies.

Flash Gitz should get a kit, or a combined kit like the Loota/Burna Boyz. So should Buggies and Trakks. These are the two items missing from the Ork model line up, and I'm really wondering if we're ever going to see them. It would worry me greatly if we returned to the 2nd Ed standard where a Codex would go years (or even editions) before a model was released for a specific option.

Think back to when 2nd Ed game out. Ignoring the OOP Rogue Trader models, there weren't any Librarians, Chaplains (other than the Death Company Chaplain), Techmarines, Apothecaries or Standard Bearers. We had a few Captains (Terminator, Ultramarine, Blood Angel, Dark Angel, Space Wolf Special Characters + a guy with a Bionic leg) and that was it. No Land Raider for a decade. Took many years for a generic Dread to be released. There were no Bikes for years.

And this was just Marines.

Now imagine if when Tau came out Broadsides and Pathfinders had no models. Imagine that the Firewarrior kit only came with Pulse Rifles. Imagine the Hammerhead kit with only a Railgun and Burstcannons, no SMS or Ion Cannon. Imagine if you got 1 Missile Pod, 1 Plasma Rifle, 1 Fusion Blaster, 1 Flamer and 2 Burst Cannons in a box of 3 Crisis Suits. This was what 2nd Ed was like, and I really don't want to go back there as far as model releases are concerned.

I'm fine with the whole 2nd wave thing - I think it's a good idea as it keeps interest up and means that people don't have a load of new models dumped on them at once and then nothing for 6-10 years - but I don't want gaps to be left in the range.

BYE

i agree flash gits are not only really expensive but are pretty much useless. unless you want to cheat by using there pre-measure rule right next to a mob that may actually do somthing.

flash gitz are useless, but look good, and badrukks rules are very tempting

they are just nob versions of lootas, but with weaker gunz.

They're Orks. With Nob stats. And pimped out guns. You can convert the cr@p out of them. How can a serious Ork player not like Flash Gitz?

I don't know if anyone here that is ANTI flashgitz has ever used them. Nob stats + good Guns... they will surprise you.

ive used them in 2 games, and the points were wasted.
for the same price as an upgraded flash git i can buy a standard nob with big chopper and a loota.

i rather stick to a unit of lootas and a unit of CC nobz.
same points, but more models, better shooting and better CC.

allthough a unt of flash gits is ok in assult, its still a BS2 ork. Pointless wasting poits upgrading them.
only reason i would take them is so i can take badrukk.

(working on an army list thats effective and includes: badrukk, snikrot, zagstruk, ghaz and wazdakka or mad doc)

There are indeed bitz in the Nobz boxed set that are designed to turn your Nobz into Flash Gitz.

Cheers
Dave

dave, any pics to back it up please? im yet to see anything that resembles a snazzgun.

I hope it isn't going to be something along the lines of there are 1 or 2 'snazzgun' bits per box though.

And we haven't seen anything suggesting that there are even in there (though they could be kept hidden, just so, you know!)...

Dave Taylor is the Man though, so, I'll go with cautious optimism for now!

I seriously doubt that Dave would want to risk his job by even pointing out where the pics of the ork nobz are that were taken a few days ago, much less show a new pic himself.

I'll do it then - here's some pics you may not have seen on this page: http://www.the-waaagh.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33843&st=420

I think the ork nobz box has at least 4 kombi-shoota looking gunz on it. Now, putting together a mob of nobz with 2 sets of these guns would visually give you something different than the standard nobz. A little addition here or there and the bitz that Dave is mentioning and I think you'd have something very good for Flash Gitz.

thanks for pics grim.
and like i have said a few times now, didnt know he was GW, it would then make sense as to why he wouldnt post any pics.

It is, Dave's been posting here under that name for a bit now. He's legit.

JD - you're welcome. Didn't mean to cause offense myself, I thought that you might not know the poster is our man Dave.

I think that with some paint and bitz choice you can make some good looking Flash Gitz from this kit. Painting gold plates on the guns, maybe adding a tank from the plastic burna kit to act as a cooling system for the ammo... I know that this requires going outside the ork nob box, but if you have lootas you'll have these parts, and conversions are Good Times!

The ork nob kit is as close as ork players will get to a flash gitz kit, so we'll make the best of it!

Hey Dave, thanks for the imput!

I'm looking forward to seeing the new Ork stuff next year!

It IS Dave Taylor, just as Chris Gohlinghorst (he works for GW too!) posts here occasionally too.

Ozymandias, King of Kings

But back to topic:
I think that I will put some Flash Gitz together with the new boxes, if only to use in Apoc games and also because I've always liked the fluff of up-gunned orks. Would be fun, and in Apoc the points wouldn't matter so much. I will have to see what conversions can be made to make their kombi-shootas just a little more snazz-gun-esque.

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Whats not to love about them [apart from the points cost?] they are nobs with souped up gunz and a nice orky attitude. in the games i have used them they have won their points back

Well, I suppose you could say there are Flash Git bitz in the Nob box in about the same way there are Battlewagon bitz in the Land Raider box.

I'm thinking Dave Taylor maybe got a bit confused and meant to say that there are cybork bitz in the box.