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My First conversion of the shadowsord/stormlord box.

Moved vulcan mega bolter from hull to turret.
Some pics:

any front on pics

yeah
it looks good so far

why have you put it on a LRBT turret?

deadly chicken wrote:why have you put it on a LRBT turret?

That's a baneblade turret.

oh. it a hell of alot smaller than a the stormlord turret.
ummm any why did you put it on a baneblade turret?

deadly chicken wrote:oh. it a hell of alot smaller than a the stormlord turret.
ummm any why did you put it on a baneblade turret?

Well I'm thinking that it would give the Vulcan mega bolter a greater range of motion so it does not have to turn and face its enemies to fire (it should be allowable as the forgeworld macharius comes with this option and is a lot smaller. That siad (by the way i do like this conversion) you will have two problems.

1) Finding someone to allow you to use the conversion as it will change the way you can use the model quite drastically,

2) the task (that even forgeworld forgoed) and convert/explain, where does the ammo go?

Otherwise a great conversion, keep the pics coming and may i add the the warhound titan's vulcan had ammo bins on either side, could be an idea

A Humble techpriest

Any specific reason for tilting the VMB upward at that angle?

Humble_Techpriest wrote:

deadly chicken wrote:oh. it a hell of alot smaller than a the stormlord turret.
ummm any why did you put it on a baneblade turret?

Well I'm thinking that it would give the Vulcan mega bolter a greater range of motion so it does not have to turn and face its enemies to fire (it should be allowable as the forgeworld macharius comes with this option and is a lot smaller. That siad (by the way i do like this conversion) you will have two problems.

1) Finding someone to allow you to use the conversion as it will change the way you can use the model quite drastically,

2) the task (that even forgeworld forgoed) and convert/explain, where does the ammo go?

Otherwise a great conversion, keep the pics coming and may i add the the warhound titan's vulcan had ammo bins on either side, could be an idea

A Humble techpriest

1) VMB moved to free some space inside the tank.

out of the box model seems fine for doom/banehammer transport-capacity. But too small for 40/20 models.

2) weapon used as anti-infantry / light vehicle (maybe fast moving), so to pivot all the time isn't an option.
the usual way to use the "atrtillery" tanks would be fine with the weapon mount of this plastic kit.
but a VMB needs to be hold on target, even if this moves. So obvious solve = turret.

3) Changing the stormlord to:

-lower deck: machinery + fuel
-main deck: passengers + battle platform
-upper deck: main weapon.

Thus enabling me to spent more space for the passengers and SHV may transport non-infantry as well, so i may need a ramp.

4) with at least 3 scratchbuilt SHV ( self created datasheet too), i doubt it is news to me to need consent to use it.

5) VMB has the same movement as the baneblade cannon as it is.

The chassis is still in the creative process.

I would be more pleased if you could see the guns better from more angles than directly in front ... I would almost thing it would look better with the VMB flipped upside down or(if that top armor comes off) removing the top armor. It just looks kind of off from any angle but directly underneath(and im assuming straight down the barrels).

It's a great idea and other than the covered barrels it looks great and sounds like a good idea.

Meph

1hadhq wrote:1) VMB moved to free some space inside the tank.

out of the box model seems fine for doom/banehammer transport-capacity. But too small for 40/20 models.

2) weapon used as anti-infantry / light vehicle (maybe fast moving), so to pivot all the time isn't an option.
the usual way to use the "atrtillery" tanks would be fine with the weapon mount of this plastic kit.
but a VMB needs to be hold on target, even if this moves. So obvious solve = turret.

3) Changing the stormlord to:

-lower deck: machinery + fuel
-main deck: passengers + battle platform
-upper deck: main weapon.

Thus enabling me to spent more space for the passengers and SHV may transport non-infantry as well, so i may need a ramp.

4) with at least 3 scratchbuilt SHV ( self created datasheet too), i doubt it is news to me to need consent to use it.

5) VMB has the same movement as the baneblade cannon as it is.

The chassis is still in the creative process.

Yeah, like i said you do have a great idea. As a veteran VDR man i know from experience that you do need consent to use a VDR or altered vehicles and since i was unaware of your past experience, just thought i'd give ya the heads. Don't shoot your allies with your enimies

Keep up the great work

A humble techpriest

Played around with some ideas and come up with:

1) enlarge width of the tank.

2) add a ramp either on the front or rear.

3) decide about 2 possible gun positions.

So option A is:

Main gun on a higher structure, but still possible to move under it through, front ramp for non-infantry passengers.
Design similar to a landing craft. Enough space for 4 dreads.

Option B is:

Main gun in front at usual level, stretch the length a bit, higher structure after turret as 2nd level platform.Rear ramp for passengers.
Using 2 levels, design more like a "castle", enough space for 4 dreads ( 2x2).

C&C welcome. Please vote
Concept drawing:

I'd go A, hmmm maybe with some frag launchers, get it looking like a super land raider, or an enclosed Grogan

Keep up the good work

I'd have to agree with Humble Techpriest, although you may well need something to shelter the passengers from the bullet casings that gun spews out.

Caseless ammunition mebbe?

The Dreadnote wrote:Caseless ammunition mebbe?

yep


Actual chassis holds about 40 guardsmen / 4 dreads, so size should be right now.

2 boarding tests, only 1 successful:

The Dreadnote wrote:Caseless ammunition mebbe?

boltguns use self propelled ammunition so do heavy stubbers as well?
I think they do

I think option A would look best, but I chose option B for practicality's sake. The last thing I would want to do is leave that vehicle in FRONT of that gun shooting...

Breotan wrote:Any specific reason for tilting the VMB upward at that angle?

Plunging fire could be one reason...
Plus, firing at range would require a slight upwards title.



Ghidorah

that looks good, cant wait to see the finished product!

Ghidorah wrote:I think option A would look best, but I chose option B for practicality's sake. The last thing I would want to do is leave that vehicle in FRONT of that gun shooting...

Ghidorah

Its still an IG vehicle. Could be a comissar at the gun controls to help you to enjoy youre duty.





Its looks like a 50/50 vote now.

Hoped for a clear decision, I'll have to concentrate on the "shared" parts then.

So keep voting and help me to get a course of action.