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2009/03/31 02:50:13
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Hacking Interventor
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Looking at the new guard codex, I feel that the rules for the valk and vend really represent helicopters better than planes, so I am looking at kitbashing an imperial helicopter gunship. The base model I want to use is a 1:48 scale Hind pictured below:
For the conversion the obvious changes would be to replace the weapons with lascannons, and maybe modify the nose to look sort of eagle-ish, or for a valk replace the nose weapon with a multi-laser. What other modifications would people recommend?
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2009/03/31 02:54:21
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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Hmm, I would say mady beef up to rotors, but thats just me. make it a bit boxier around the ends. taek away the tail rotor and maybe replace it with something more 40k-ish like a jet or some techy thing. I would say not to change the nose to much but close up the bubble. and make it more boxed. keep the ball turret in the nose for ML and maybe make the wings on the side a bit straighter and shorter. Of course this is just me. it it up to you.
Oh yeah add some incongraphy
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THRONES FOR THE THRONE SKULL!!!!
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2009/03/31 02:55:27
Subject: Re:Vendetta conversion idea.
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Fixture of Dakka
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"Looking at the new guard codex,..."
how'd you manage that?
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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2009/03/31 08:37:53
Subject: Re:Vendetta conversion idea.
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Holy Terra, Island Continent
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sounds cool making a guard chopper! yes definatly bluk up the rotters and get rid of the back rotter thing(i don't know much about choppers) and bluk up the body to make it less round!, all guard vechiles are bluky and not round!
Go for it
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2009/03/31 08:52:56
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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I'd dump the rotors completely (main and tail) and move the exhaust nozzles further back (they stick out the sides of the engine housing) and also change the tail slightly (maybe by angling the tail vanes down more).
With BIG ENGINES, anything can fly.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2009/03/31 13:07:50
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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It never quite made sense to me......
Imperial guardsmen without helicopters????? Are you crazy!?!?!?
I hope this conversion turns out as awesome as it could be!
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2009/03/31 14:48:52
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Leader of the Sept
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Helicopters are not the only way to do VTOL. Valkyries and their ilk would be relying on suspensor tech and vectored thrust out of their heyoooooj engines
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Terranwing - w3;d1;l1
51st Dunedinw2;d0;l0
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2009/03/31 15:12:17
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Rebel_Princess
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Uge' rivets everywhere!
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2009/03/31 15:14:07
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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imperial guns, needs to be a bit more square ish (all imperial vehicles seem to be box's)
and rivets.
i second the idea to beef up the blades aswell, only a 5-10 min plasticard job
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Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor. |
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2009/03/31 17:18:54
Subject: Re:Vendetta conversion idea.
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Disciplined Sea Guard
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I was looking around at other sites and found the following you could use for inspiration:
Catachan Huey conversion
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2865524
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2009/04/01 00:12:07
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Hacking Interventor
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Thanks for the input everyone. I picked up the model today, and after looking at the components in person, I will definitely bulk up the rotors. Another fast change is that the crewman the model comes with will be getting head swaps for cadian shock trooper heads. I decided to use it as a valk rather than a vendetta, and the machine gun in the ball turret will be replaced with a sentinel multi-laser I have on hand. Also, the swatter missiles in the wing tips will be replaced with HK missiles i have on hand. I do like the multiple missile pods the model comes with, so I may stay with those rather than find some GW equivalent.
There are a few small sensors on the exterior I will be leaving off (what imperial vehicle has sensors).
The tail rotor will be staying, as it is necessary to the functioning of the chopper. The tail rotor will be slightly bulked.
As for bulking out the rest of it, I do like the angular look of the craft, and i was wondering it would look more imperial if I simply added some angular armor plates to it, that still have the same contour as the model, but still add more visible hard angles.
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2009/04/02 03:32:28
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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I think you should go the route of takeing off the rotor system completely, I think helicopters are probably obsolete if you have suspensor technology, I do like the shape of the russian helo better, I would think that vehicles made in different factories,by different workers, on different planets would tend to look a bit different. The lasgun is made several different ways, the vostroyan one, the elysian one, the catachan,the cadian,etc... I would take the ideas used in the above picture from warseer and apply it to your model, that would be cool! Also, you need to think about how practical it will be to play with and transport a model with long rotors sticking off the top.
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2009/04/02 03:58:33
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Nimble Dark Rider
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Another vote for "ditch all rotors". Also, I would fatten the wings considerably; make them big trapezoids, kinda like an F-22. It'll look more like a V___ (insert IG skimmer name here) that way.
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2009/04/03 09:19:35
Subject: Re:Vendetta conversion idea.
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Holy Terra, Island Continent
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hmmmm the roto is large so maybe remove them or trim em down a bit, yes you could make it angular, hey who cares if choppers are obsolete, choppers would probably be easier to maintain and repair them suspensor tech flyers so dude its ur army ur choice!
that pic is awsome
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2009/04/03 12:21:16
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Leader of the Sept
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Helicopters are really complicated. Thats why so many of them fall out of the sky unexpectedly.
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
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2009/04/04 06:37:53
Subject: Re:Vendetta conversion idea.
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Holy Terra, Island Continent
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well if you can find a service record of supensor tech flyers and there saftey record i would be more then willing to say they are better but of course they don't exist yet
well sorry about that but in IMO i think choppers are better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
besides supensor tech flyers would be comlicated AS WELL!
its an agument that won't end!
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2009/04/04 13:08:19
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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I reckon you should keep the tail rotor. Hope to see some pics of this project, sounds like it's gonna look pretty cool!
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2009/04/04 14:51:35
Subject: Vendetta conversion idea.
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Drone without a Controller
My Dark Tower Of Everlasting Doom
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JD21290 wrote:imperial guns, needs to be a bit more square ish (all imperial vehicles seem to be box's)
and rivets.
i second the idea to beef up the blades aswell, only a 5-10 min plasticard job
Like JD21290 said, you'll have to box-alise is so it'll fit in better with all the boxy tanks.
Also, you should stick some big thruster motors on it.
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2009/04/04 16:23:28
Subject: Re:Vendetta conversion idea.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I dunno about getting rid of ALL the rotors. Because then it wont be a heli... itll be a weird thruster jet thing. Good ideas tho, seriously do this prodject I wanna see it complete
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