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hi, me and my brother are starting space marines, he quickly chose ultrasmurfs which i fancied painting. problem now is, hes sparayed my space marines black and I have a limited number of paints, so does anyone have any suggestions for me, im stuck.

thanks all

Oscar.

Paint blue over black as you need a undercoat any way.

i have already painted my brothers ultramarines, i now need a cahpter for me, which chapter shall i choose????

by the way, i am happy to consider new chapters that you have founded, and then they will grow!!!

I thought you said the problem is your bro had painted them black, if your doing ultramarines, and doing a entire chapter then shouldn't they all be blue? Which in any case you can paint over black. If part of your models are blue and you haven't got any more blue paint go buy some more. Problem solved.

If I'm misunderstanding what your saying, as your not really very clear, then I play with Imperial Fists and Blood Angels

ok, what im saying is this, my brother plays UM, he has sold me some of his marines sprayed black for me to start a different chapter by myself, which chapter should i choose if i have few paints and a black undercoat.

Ahha gotcha.

Well, the chapter you choose is a very personal choice. There are many colours that work well with a black undercoat so you havent realy blocked yourself too much there.

Take a look at this 'little' list of chapters and pick one that you like the look of.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Space_Marine_Chapters

of course you could always design your own chapter, there is a great tool for this here:-

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?autocom=pages&do=show&id=1

Have fun, and let us know how it goes

what do we think about black templars???

If you are looking for a chapter that isn't really prevalent, and is based around a black basing, you are more than welcome to use the Saints of Revelation. I have an article with some pics and a little bit of why I made them, or you can check out my gallery for ideas, if you like them.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/JediRaptor%27s_Saints_of_Revelation

The models pictured are still a little WIP, but I hope to have the finished pics up by the end of the weekend.

Like I said, if you like them, by all means, run with them
JD

I'll just recommend what I recommend to everyone, soul drinkers!

Red templars

Well, there are a lot of chapters out there. I have found that half and half chapters look a little odd when there's just one of them, but they tend to look outstanding as a full force. For example:


The Eagle Warriors


or the Storm Lords.

(by the way, all of the above minis were painted over a black undercoat)


As for other chapters, I am personally partial to the Salamanders also (with the flame decorations here and there, and maybe some scale cloaks as conversions). Also, the Relictors have some pretty outstanding fluff for them (they wear grey, their symbol is a skull in profile, and they often use deamon weapons and chaos artifacts).

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Pictorial_List_of_Space_Marine_Chapters_A-L

A good place to start, you can see the different "cannon" or official, chapters.

The more import question I have is, since you say your limited on paints, "what paints do you have?" Example, if you just have white, then yes BT is they way to go. But if you tell us what's at your disposal we can tell you what schemes are possible with the paints at hand.

ok, ive checked my paints and looked at lots of chapters, and im thinking space wolves. Now, just a few things, I guess that wolves have a few special characters and units as such, but no codex, so what can i do about that??? Any help?

thanks all

Oscar.

The new codex comes out in September

so is it worth starting wolves now then?

wolves have their own entire range of models, if you REALLY want to do space wolves, save up and wait in my opinion OR if your too impatient just do "counts as" spaces wolves who are painted the space wolves them but you use the space marine codex (i believe thats allowed).

Id ask you waht paints DO you have. If you dont tell anyone then they are really wasting time spitting out ideas. Black tho, you could do blue on that black undercoat, itll be darker, there for you can make the Crimson Fists. They are cool looking. Lighter colors show up fine on black.

well i have shadow grey, space wolves grey, inyaden darksun, golden yellow, sunburst yellow, chaos black, scab red, blood red, whatever the foundation orange is, boltgun metal, mithril silver, most of the green shades and a few more, so, thats about it I think, If that helps.

Sons of medusa.

no wolve do the right thing start thunder lords. ive done my entire army with two pots of paint. i also have a pretty good selection of fluuf iff you cheack my threads thropugh my sig
please if you want any help pm me

You could do my chapter.

salmanders.

I'd recommend the Salamanders or Crimson Fists. If I could do a second SM army it'd be the Salamanders, they have a cool paint scheme and a pretty cool special character in the most recent SM codex, which I believe you have. And with your shades of green over the black undercoat you can paint them easily too. Crimson fists just have a cool color scheme I think.

As for specific chapters with their own extensive set of rules and units, it's basically preference. I think a lot of your forces will largely be (barring chapter upgrades/bonuses) generic space marine units, with a select few being chapter specific. One notable exception I think is the Black Templars (and, to a lesser extent, the Space Wolves), but don't quote me on that. An example is my Dark Angels army - I am using a DA commander, and a Terminator Command squad. Other than that, points- and upgrades-wise my army is essentially a generic space marine army. A crusader, a venerable dread, a rhino, etc.

so, essentially, i could buy a command squad and some tactical marines, scouts etc... paint them as wolves (sorry i am bought on them) and hen until september just play my wolves using the basic space marine codex?

Yep you can play them as normal SM, but have them painted as Space Wolves.

fab. thanks all you uys for your help and suggestions, i will post a painted one up as soon as possible. Also, what would you say is the best way to paint yellow onto black???

Use your foundation orange first, then paint yellow over that. The foundation paint has a lot of pigment, so that should cover it well enough.

For when you finish your first model:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/239112.page

oscarhardwick wrote:hi, me and my brother are starting space marines, he quickly chose ultrasmurfs which i fancied painting. problem now is, hes sparayed my space marines black and I have a limited number of paints, so does anyone have any suggestions for me, im stuck.

thanks all

Oscar.

HEY! i Made up the Name ULTRASMURFS!

or was it ultramasmurfs