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2014/05/29 13:28:43
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Kal-El wrote: Formosa wrote:I for one will be ignoring the "missile lock" dark Angel faq, the New missile lock actually helped make the nephilim more useable and the idiots kept the faq the same from last edition.
O dear...I'm afraid to play you if your picking and choosing rules to abide by and ignore lol. Might be an interesting game.
It's ok our group does it all the time, if gdub are too stupid to sort out things properly we do it ourselves, it's called house rules and every group/club/tourny does it 
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2014/05/29 13:37:07
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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Keep on buying those models, boys! Nothing says "I love how you do things" better than keeping the GW think tank in the black...
I think it's pretty universal throughout this thread and the TO thread no one is playing 7th Ed according to how it's written - so what's the point again?
I'm seriously asking.
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 No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester
 The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
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2014/05/29 13:43:22
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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Looks like there has been an update today. The Space Wolves errata got fixed and they have added the Psychic Power Cards
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By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!
- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos
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2014/05/29 13:55:17
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up
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Screaming Shining Spear
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TiamatRoar wrote:Yea, removing several armies' entire psychic repertoire and basically leaving them with nothing until their next codex finally hits (which won't be for months if not a year+ for some of them) was a pretty male-anatomy move.
Sort of like when 6th hit and instead of FAQing in some Anti-Air ability for the Codexes, they just figured to leave them alone until the respective Codexes got their updates. That was a brilliant move that didn't make CronAir popular...right?
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 Farseer Faenyin
 7,100 pts Yme-Loc Eldar(Apoc Included) / 5,700 pts (Non-Apoc)
Record for 6th Edition- Eldar: 25-4-2
Record for 7th Edition -
Eldar: 0-0-0 (Yes, I feel it is that bad)
Battlefleet Gothic: 2,750 pts of Craftworld Eldar
X-wing(Focusing on Imperials): CR90, 6 TIE Fighters, 4 TIE Interceptors, TIE Bomber, TIE Advanced, 4 X-wings, 3 A-wings, 3 B-wings, Y-wing, Z-95
Battletech: Battlion and Command Lance of 3025 Mechs(painted as 21st Rim Worlds) |
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2014/05/29 13:55:56
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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So the possibility that the other blunders might be fixed has increased slightly. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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Drukhari - 4.7k
Space Marines - 3.1k
Chaos Space Marines - 2.9k
Harlequins - 0.9k
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2014/05/29 14:01:27
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2014/05/29 14:39:54
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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The New Miss Macross!
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Hopefully they'll get around to adding Fast back to the Blood Angel rhino chassis tanks if it is indeed a simple error and not mustache twirling villainy as Yakface suggested.
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2014/05/29 15:49:28
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Yeah that new space wolf FAQ...they changed the 1 word from "third" to "forth" on runic weapons.... Really? It's even in magenta!
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2014/05/29 16:22:28
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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Kal-El wrote: Yeah that new space wolf FAQ...they changed the 1 word from "third" to "forth" on runic weapons.... Really? It's even in magenta!
GW1: "Hey you know that Errata that you posted to fix the Space Wolves?" GW2: "Yeah, what about it?" GW1: "You put in the wrong line number on the Runic Weapons section." GW2: "I did? Thank god you caught that. It would have completely borked the whole army!" GW1: "No problem. At least we know now that there aren't any major problems or enormous changes which completely invalidate parts of the codex now." GW2: "Sure do." GW1: "Wanna do some finecast?" GW2: "Ballin'"
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
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2014/05/29 17:00:11
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Pious Palatine
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HM. Updates but nothing for the BA. Is that a bad sign? That seems like a bad sign.
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2014/05/29 17:11:55
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Lord of the Fleet
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GW never ceases to amaze me.
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2014/05/29 17:14:50
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Lieutenant Colonel
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come on guys, it took them 3 days to get a FQ up, and 3 days or so to update them a bit.
give it some time, hopefully this means no more years without updates.
ALso, FYI, go look in the GK faq regarding combat squads.... pretty sure that missed the copy/paste into other marine dexes
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2014/05/29 19:49:33
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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 easysauce wrote:come on guys, it took them 3 days to get a FQ up, and 3 days or so to update them a bit. give it some time, hopefully this means no more years without updates. ALso, FYI, go look in the GK faq regarding combat squads.... pretty sure that missed the copy/paste into other marine dexes
It's not as if they didn't know what was changing in the rules until they were released for sale. These rules have been finalised since they went to be printed. That was probably what, a month ago? Maybe more? So I think them not having a proper, complete FAQ and Errata which fixes all of the problems for old codices on day one is pretty terrible. If we can spot mistakes and omissions in these FAQs on a quick glance through (which takes less than 5 minutes) when we've only had the new rulebook for 3 days then GW has no excuse.
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
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2014/05/29 19:55:42
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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1 Word posts are spam, thank you - MT11
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2014/05/29 20:21:44
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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 A Town Called Malus wrote:Kal-El wrote:
Yeah that new space wolf FAQ...they changed the 1 word from "third" to "forth" on runic weapons.... Really? It's even in magenta!
GW1: "Hey you know that Errata that you posted to fix the Space Wolves?"
GW2: "Yeah, what about it?"
GW1: "You put in the wrong line number on the Runic Weapons section."
GW2: "I did? Thank god you caught that. It would have completely borked the whole army!"
GW1: "No problem. At least we know now that there aren't any major problems or enormous changes which completely invalidate parts of the codex now."
GW2: "Sure do."
GW1: "Wanna do some finecast?"
GW2: "Ballin'"
I take it you missed the multi-page YMDC argument on this one.
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2014/05/29 21:13:29
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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I love the mock GW conversations lol.
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Click the images to see my armies!
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2014/05/29 23:30:24
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Really, I'm amazed the link to the FAQ doesn't load up a single, solitary picture of a turnip when you click on it.
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2014/05/30 08:03:35
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Calculating Commissar
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A Town Called Malus wrote: easysauce wrote:come on guys, it took them 3 days to get a FQ up, and 3 days or so to update them a bit.
give it some time, hopefully this means no more years without updates.
ALso, FYI, go look in the GK faq regarding combat squads.... pretty sure that missed the copy/paste into other marine dexes
It's not as if they didn't know what was changing in the rules until they were released for sale. These rules have been finalised since they went to be printed. That was probably what, a month ago? Maybe more?
So I think them not having a proper, complete FAQ and Errata which fixes all of the problems for old codices on day one is pretty terrible. If we can spot mistakes and omissions in these FAQs on a quick glance through (which takes less than 5 minutes) when we've only had the new rulebook for 3 days then GW has no excuse.
The rules must have been finalised easily 4-6 months ago, since they were probably printed in China and shipped and will have been sitting in Nottingham awaiting release.
So there's really no reason that correct FAQ's weren't available on launch day, other than they the intern probably never got round to it
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2014/05/30 11:15:04
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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It looks like the Blood Angels FAQ has been updated to include the Fast rule for the vehicles which lost it:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/PDF/Warhammer-40k/7th-faq/Blood_Angels_v1.0_May14.pdf
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By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!
- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos
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2014/05/30 11:22:11
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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[ADMIN]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Good to see.
Although it still pains me that people seem to think that because something that was previously an errata is now no longer in the 7th edition errata it means categorically that those things have 'changed back'.
That isn't what it means. Those things that were previously put in the errata *have* been changed in the digital publications already and presumably also in the newer printings of the physical versions of the codexes. Now, should GW have dropped those things from the 7th edition errata? Of course not, it is completely confusing and a terrible situation, but it is *not* a case of things being 'changed back'. It is a case of one version of the book (the old print ones) not matching the newer versions of the same book (the digital and presumably the newer printings of the print books).
And while it is terrible to have people running around with old books not knowing which things should be updated or not, the updated version would still be the most current version of the codex, and therefore take precedence over the older versions.
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2014/05/30 11:25:48
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Good move by GW. It still is a rather prompt reaction to the problem and it was swiftly solved. Now, to fix the Demon problem Another FAQ for the CCB might be useful too. And let's not forget about FW still not having released a FAQ yet...
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2014/05/30 11:31:26
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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Glad to hear that BA Vehicles have got fixed. I'm not a BA player, but I can sympathise.
Perhaps the CSM FAQ is next? Time will tell.
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Drukhari - 4.7k
Space Marines - 3.1k
Chaos Space Marines - 2.9k
Harlequins - 0.9k
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2014/05/30 11:41:46
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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This could actually be a good sign. IIRC when GW was handling it we got updates very rarely. Now that Black Library is handling it ... they have updated stuff fixing mistakes that were made fairly quickly .... I am honestly in the 'hopeful' corner.
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2014/05/30 12:34:48
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up
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Fixture of Dakka
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 BlackRaven1987!! wrote: I mean seriously does GW watch what I have bought and say " HA now we have him take all if his armies in one fell swoop he will no choice but to start a new one, mwahahahaha!!!".
Actually yes they do. If you buy from a GW store they take your name down. (I always thought this was to give you bonus points or something. Man how I was wrong) It seems they have an account of what everyone purchases from a GW store if you give your name. Also if you don't give your name or buy else where, they still keep tallies of what is being sold and know the exact number of what is being sold and can base what to change on this information.
I guess not a lot of vehicles were being sold in 6th so they rebuffed them again for 7th so more vehicles can be sold. Also their numbers probably told them they have too much daemons in stock so did a bit of tinkering in the rules so more daemons can be sold. How do you sell daemons to non daemon players? I wonder what GW can do to do this? (I bet nobody would have thought of an answer to GW solution.  )
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
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2014/05/30 12:43:48
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Stoic Grail Knight
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 Sigvatr wrote:Good move by GW. It still is a rather prompt reaction to the problem and it was swiftly solved.
Now, to fix the Demon problem
I think GW's Daemon problem is WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH ALL THIS EXTRA CASH!?!! Wooooooo!!
Seriously, I've already been hearing stories of daemons being sold out in a lot of FLGS. Let no 40k player fool you, they all want to win just as bad as the next guy 
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2014/05/30 12:50:24
Subject: Re:40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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 OIIIIIIO wrote:This could actually be a good sign. IIRC when GW was handling it we got updates very rarely. Now that Black Library is handling it ... they have updated stuff fixing mistakes that were made fairly quickly .... I am honestly in the 'hopeful' corner.
You know they're the same company, right? FAQs are only on the Black Library site because no one thought to build document-sharing functionality into the fancy new web shop for the main GW site. It'll be the same people handling updates as before.
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2014/05/30 13:08:56
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Gargantuan Gargant
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 Accolade wrote:
Seriously, I've already been hearing stories of daemons being sold out in a lot of FLGS. Let no 40k player fool you, they all want to win just as bad as the next guy
It would only take a single player per FLGS to wipe them out.
A daemon factory list uses more daemons than the average FLGS keeps on the shelf.
I'd have to wipe out the nearest 3 FLGS to get enough, the way they are stocked. (No more than 2 of any particular thing)
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2014/05/30 13:19:23
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : BA updated 30th May p9
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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My only complaint with these FAQs is they are not incrementing the version number when they do these small correction updates.
Neither BA nor Space Wolves got incremented and the BA didn't even get magenta text. I don't see the point of sticking a version number on there if you're not going to use it or identify changes.
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By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!
- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos
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2014/05/30 13:24:07
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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 adamsouza wrote:It would only take a single player per FLGS to wipe them out.
A daemon factory list uses more daemons than the average FLGS keeps on the shelf.
I'd have to wipe out the nearest 3 FLGS to get enough, the way they are stocked. (No more than 2 of any particular thing)
It is like I buy the cheap IG/ AM 5 man 3 piece per guy kits but would have to buy 2 every week (all they would stock) for a month to get enough.
I have a ton of the old metal daemons but refused to play them again when removed from the CSM codex.
Happy times again...
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2014/05/30 13:31:06
Subject: 40k 7th edition FAQs are up : updated 29th May p9
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Stoic Grail Knight
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adamsouza wrote: Accolade wrote:
Seriously, I've already been hearing stories of daemons being sold out in a lot of FLGS. Let no 40k player fool you, they all want to win just as bad as the next guy
It would only take a single player per FLGS to wipe them out.
A daemon factory list uses more daemons than the average FLGS keeps on the shelf.
I'd have to wipe out the nearest 3 FLGS to get enough, the way they are stocked. (No more than 2 of any particular thing)
Oh sure, most of them don't carry a lot. I still wouldn't be surprised if GW has seen a significant uptick in Daemon sales- which is good for them, I'm almost positive it was their intended goal.
And yeah, Daemons could turn out to be a bust in terms of the competitive scene, but right now they're the hotness! 
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