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molds can have 10 miniatures or limited to standard size ?

xargax wrote:
molds can have 10 miniatures or limited to standard size ?

I believe it is between 5-7 28mm miniatures per mold. Depending on size.

10 miniatures of 28, 32 or 35mm scale size per mold for example, or vehicles (land raider/rhino/predator/leman russ from warhammer 40k style) is possible ?

6 per mold for standard human shaped models (depending pose I guess) I can assume a vehicle could be done in parts but would need several molds (again depending size and shape).

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
6 per mold for standard human shaped models (depending pose I guess) I can assume a vehicle could be done in parts but would need several molds (again depending size and shape).

I wouldn't be shocked to learn that Prodos doesn't want to do vehicles given the statement that the bases are a required part of the process from their response to NAVARRO. Also, casting multiple parts defeats the advantage of Unicast since it's now Multicast.

Puns aside, it would be interesting to see if they could do, if nothing else, "upgrade" kits for other base vehicles in the material similar to what Dust Studios does with upgrade sprues for WW2 kits.

Perhaps some clarification on the base is needed. Does the model have to have a full sized round base, or does it just need a large tab like metal and resin models already have?

Prodos- Can Unicast be done with models that are traditionally sculpted or does it require the base model be 3d for some reason?

 MLaw wrote:
Prodos- Can Unicast be done with models that are traditionally sculpted or does it require the base model be 3d for some reason?

They did answer that question. There probably should be a compiled list of questions and answers created and added to the OP.

Q: Can you cast in Unicast only from a 3d file or traditional sculpts can also be used and cast in Unicast?
A: Only 3D. Process required models surface in 3d form.

Did you get an answer/ clarification on the minimum volume?
is it shots or figures?

Hmm, sounds potentially interesting for peeps who want to do 6mm or BFG scaled stuff...

 Dark Severance wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Prodos- Can Unicast be done with models that are traditionally sculpted or does it require the base model be 3d for some reason?

They did answer that question. There probably should be a compiled list of questions and answers created and added to the OP.

Q: Can you cast in Unicast only from a 3d file or traditional sculpts can also be used and cast in Unicast?
A: Only 3D. Process required models surface in 3d form.

Thanks, it would be really helpful if there were a compilation post for Q&A. That requirement and the integral base thing shifts this into a pretty specific production pipeline.

Temptation rising...

I've long dreamed of having some over- ridiculous blinged- out anime/ Japanese CCG dragons for small scale gaming for a long time. Literally nobody makes what I want, not even in Japan.

When prodos get's back to answer the questions about if unicast can use a tab as the "base" and if the min order is shots/models. I wounder if we could see what the prices are like to have a project done in resin vs. unicast.

 Lockark wrote:
When prodos get's back to answer the questions about if unicast can use a tab as the "base" and if the min order is shots/models. I wounder if we could see what the prices are like to have a project done in resin vs. unicast.

Hi there, prices depend on a model's size. Unicast is cheaper to traditional casting if we go above 300 models per type.

As for Capacity, there is production output from last 3 days, approx 6000 models, made at Archon's facility.

Nice, can we get a clarification on the minimum volume, is it 250 models or 250 shots?

Thanks!

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Nice, can we get a clarification on the minimum volume, is it 250 models or 250 shots?

Thanks!

OK 250 miniatures. Thanks

Nice, I think I will compile this into a nice FAQ a bit later today, this can be quite fascinating for individuals who want to make a small project for themselves.

Do you have a similar nice chart for your digital sculpting services? and 3D printing that may go quite nice hand in hand with this.

I understand if the variables are too many for this and it is not possible beyond a simple "it is per case" answer.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
Nice, I think I will compile this into a nice FAQ a bit later today, this can be quite fascinating for individuals who want to make a small project for themselves.

Do you have a similar nice chart for your digital sculpting services? and 3D printing that may go quite nice hand in hand with this.

I understand if the variables are too many for this and it is not possible beyond a simple "it is per case" answer.

Frankly, we can do all for you, from concept of miniatures to mass production and board game assembly/printing.

However, there are 3 board game soon-to-be-on-Kickstarter we are working on (not ours nor Archon ones) for external customers, so it will take some time to work this through.

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
[Frankly, we can do all for you, from concept of miniatures to mass production and board game assembly/printing.

It was my understanding that you couldn't do concept art. Concept art needed to be done before, then you could do 3d printing, 3d sculpting and casting.

Do you also handle concept art or is that still the same?

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
When prodos get's back to answer the questions about if unicast can use a tab as the "base" and if the min order is shots/models. I wounder if we could see what the prices are like to have a project done in resin vs. unicast.

Hi there, prices depend on a model's size. Unicast is cheaper to traditional casting if we go above 300 models per type.

This is very important info for people based on the size of their project. For sure I'm keeping you guys in mind for a dream project I hope to get off the ground.

yeah,
Can you do clear resin in this?

I'd like my cloaked predators that I paid you for in what 2013?

Panic...

It is already answered, I am afraid no.

I will have to compile a FAQ later today.

yeah,
Did they say why not?
They said they had trouble casting the clear predators in the normal molds so they were working on a solution.
I thought this might be it?

Prodos ? How's the clear resin problem coming along??

Can't believe they are working on everyone elses kickstarters while they haven't sorted out their own.

Panic...

No they just said they cannot do clear resin and they can only do opaque colouring, not bright colours.



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 Panic wrote:

Can't believe they are working on everyone elses kickstarters while they haven't sorted out their own.

Panic...

Well I am assuming (a bad habit I know) that from a manufacturers perspective, it makes little sense to halt everything until X is finished, it is an reasoning we have seen on many kickstarters (usually involving their creative team).

From the information I see around Prodos seems to want to set themselves as a complete package for hire or do parts for hire, not a bad idea so far only china does such work and something in EU will be attractive to many companies and individuals, especially if they do small print runs.

We know for fact that they do concept art, 3D design, 3D printing casting and from a comment above they can also do the boxes and internal components and setting aside the later, we have testimonies from other companies using them for such jobs.

 Panic wrote:
Can't believe they are working on everyone elses kickstarters while they haven't sorted out their own.

With business clients, you have contracts with stuff like approvals and project goals, penalties for non-delivery at certain deadlines, payment only upon meeting certain requirements, etc. etc.
If you screw up the project, you lose their future business, plus any other clients they would have referred you to.

With backers, you get a big wad of cash and no deadline whatsoever.
If you screw up the project, you go run another KS and generate *another* big wad of cash.

Lurking here for the info about unicast, but since there already was a lot of OT and generally a bright vision of the future, any chance you'll get around to do the Waste Knights miniatures eventually? I am afraid that I'll tire of the game and pass it on before those are delivered, few of my games hit the table a year after acquiring :/

 turin wrote:
Lurking here for the info about unicast, but since there already was a lot of OT and generally a bright vision of the future, any chance you'll get around to do the Waste Knights miniatures eventually? I am afraid that I'll tire of the game and pass it on before those are delivered, few of my games hit the table a year after acquiring :/

Hi there, I suggest get in touch with Waste Knights owners, as we have manufactured for them all they wanted so far and we have nothing outstanding. Thanks.

yeah,
Oh Hello There!!!

Prodos I'm glad you're here answering messages as you seem to have abandoned the AVP thread.

Where are we at with the clear predators? and all the other stuff you owe everyone?

Thanks

Panic...

They prefer if you join their closed facebook group or email them directly . Please note that these options convienently keep the criticism out of the public eye and out of sight of potential new customers. Whether or not it works more often than the current methods of posting on the AVP kickstarter page, posting on their ongoing crowdfunding project comments, their open Facebook page, or various promo/news articles/threads online (like this one) is something you'll have to report back on.

 warboss wrote:
They prefer if you join their closed facebook group or email them directly . Please note that these options convienently keep the criticism out of the public eye and out of sight of potential new customers. Whether or not it works more often than the current methods of posting on the AVP kickstarter page, posting on their ongoing crowdfunding project comments, their open Facebook page, or various promo/news articles/threads online (like this one) is something you'll have to report back on.

Spoiler:

 Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Prodos is fulfilling KS from it's sales profit on it's products.

Prodos, as per it's financial statement is also doing fine, thus is able to fund shipping, gradually.

If you are AVP KS backer, and you have not received anything/awaiting for next wave, I would suggest to email Prodos or join "AvP:THB Backers only" Facebook forum, Prodos team is very active there ,sorting out all customer queries.

Also, please check your data in pledge manager as there is still 241 backers that have missing names and surnames for shipping -if this is the case, I would suggest to update it and bet in touch with Prodos.

If you are not AvP backer, please follow up official updates for more information, any suggestions regarding this topic please send to Prodos email.

Thanks, I hope we can come back to the topic of LOAD.

Pretty scummy.

The white-knighting for these guys seems almost to the point of paid advertisement. Of course their inability to fulfill a Kickstarter is relevant to any other project they do. It shows something of their company morals.

I can understand their reluctance to talk about things in non AVP threads, (or IN AVP threads for that matter), but at this point, it's just something they have to own. Of course it's going to affect sales. It SHOULD affect sales. They DESERVE for it to affect sales, and if they would acknowledge it in the first page or two it comes up, they could steer the conversation back to where they want it. They will never live it down as long as they give any impression of having something to hide.