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Did a 4-color camo test :

chaos black, catachan green, graveyard earth, codex grey.

Any idea why chaos black reflects light and catachan green, graveyard earth and codex grey do not?

I'm thinking to get the underside in grey. Do or don't?

Pics of the subject:

Wow it looks really good in that picture with the rocks and pond. I think its the frog that helps

Keep going. Id muck up those engines a bit tho. They seem too... "Just installed" looking

Neato. Did you hand paint the black or was it sprayed on?

I would second the call to dirty up the engines, even if its just a bit of a black wash and silver highlight. Also have you considered doing some manual highlighting around the panel edges? Its a bit tedious on a camo scheme, but the result is well worthwhile.

KingCracker wrote:Wow it looks really good in that picture with the rocks and pond. I think its the frog that helps

Keep going. Id muck up those engines a bit tho. They seem too... "Just installed" looking

Fine. I'll remember to have a frog on every pic then
The engines are just kept in metallic as basic layer. Will add colors if the camo scheme works.

Flinty wrote:Neato. Did you hand paint the black or was it sprayed on?

I would second the call to dirty up the engines, even if its just a bit of a black wash and silver highlight. Also have you considered doing some manual highlighting around the panel edges? Its a bit tedious on a camo scheme, but the result is well worthwhile.

May go there. But need to get the basic camo first done.

Any idea how to get black less shiny?

When you seal it, use a gloss finish for a protective coat followed by a matte finish to remove the shine - it works beautifully.

Its nice, works well and is original.

I've never seen a warhammer model used against real life flora to do a camo test!! You're dedication is extreme!!

It's a great scheme and seems to blend well, its always hardest to blend around the edges of the wings/body. But the underside grey/light blue would work well.

Can you post some pics up with the engines mucky-ed up and complete?

Reflective black.. - Ive found that black wash dulls everything down and takes a lot of the shine off. If you can spray on badab black it should take the shine off the black without darkening your other colours too much.

may also bring out some more of the details, and dampen that 'chromed' engine look.

this is just theory - you would really want to test it on a small, repaintable part beforehand. I wouldnt want you to ruin a great looking camo scheme.

Is that frog a Heavy choice?

darkkt wrote:Is that frog a Heavy choice?

I'm guessing Fast Attack. It's clearly Jump Infantry.

Valk looks nice. Are you still thinking a grey for the undercarriage? I think that will work nicely or you could go with a steely blue.

I would actually recommend using the Gryphonne Sypia Wash as it gives metal a nice oily, dirty look and is perfect for engines and other machinery.

That's some sweet action right there man. I like the scheme and my recommendation for the "non glossy black" is Vallejo Model Color series black. That is the black I use and it dries very very matte.

Very effective.

Major props to you sir. That looks amazing.

effective but the hand gives it away!

Nice paintjob on the frog, its got excelent camo.
Valk's pretty good too.

Agreed,how did you get that wet look on the frog?haha.


The is nice,hopefully it will be destroying a tabletop somewhere soon.

Frog Pts 75
WS BS S T I W LD SV
5 3 6 8 4 6 10 5+
Special rules
Afraid of French people
Hop

lol.

karmaiko wrote:When you seal it, use a gloss finish for a protective coat followed by a matte finish to remove the shine - it works beautifully.

May try that.

vodski wrote:Its nice, works well and is original.

Thanks

s.j.mccartney wrote:I've never seen a warhammer model used against real life flora to do a camo test!! You're dedication is extreme!!

It's a great scheme and seems to blend well, its always hardest to blend around the edges of the wings/body. But the underside grey/light blue would work well.

Can you post some pics up with the engines mucky-ed up and complete?

I can and will. But had a full stop today ( job getting in the way from 6.00 to 22.00 ).

darkkt wrote:Reflective black.. - Ive found that black wash dulls everything down and takes a lot of the shine off. If you can spray on badab black it should take the shine off the black without darkening your other colours too much.

may also bring out some more of the details, and dampen that 'chromed' engine look.

this is just theory - you would really want to test it on a small, repaintable part beforehand. I wouldnt want you to ruin a great looking camo scheme.

At least im not alone with this problem, a lot of pre-painted military vehicles have it too.
Could evade it per airbrushing a first layer of matt black.

cuscus wrote:

darkkt wrote:Is that frog a Heavy choice?

I'm guessing Fast Attack. It's clearly Jump Infantry.

Valk looks nice. Are you still thinking a grey for the undercarriage? I think that will work nicely or you could go with a steely blue.

I definetly go for grey underside. Had a second look at some copters and looked well.

Hialmar wrote:I would actually recommend using the Gryphonne Sypia Wash as it gives metal a nice oily, dirty look and is perfect for engines and other machinery.

May wash metal parts when i'm done with camo and basic color.

burb1996 wrote:That's some sweet action right there man. I like the scheme and my recommendation for the "non glossy black" is Vallejo Model Color series black. That is the black I use and it dries very very matte.

Didn't get much vallejo where i live.

jabbakahut wrote:Very effective.

thanks

Datadep5 wrote:Major props to you sir. That looks amazing.

thanks

deadly chicken wrote:effective but the hand gives it away!

don't make fun of the hand!

Da GeneruL wrote:Nice paintjob on the frog, its got excellent camo.
Valk's pretty good too.

Too? its a valk thread, i thougth.... but ok since you found the valk in the picture.

Deff Dread red Edition wrote:Agreed,how did you get that wet look on the frog?haha.

The valk is nice,hopefully it will be destroying a tabletop somewhere soon.

Valks doesn't destroy, would be the job of a "destroyer" ( imperial ground attack fighter/bomber).
Always the frog. I start thinking GW should add a codex "amphibious creatures" to 40k.

Da GeneruL wrote:Frog Pts 75
WS BS S T I W LD SV
5 3 6 8 4 6 10 5+
Special rules
Afraid of French people
Hop

Oh great. Now this frog has rules.
But you forgot the FOC slot. Is it FA or HS ?

Should be more careful what i shoot with my camera.

OTOH i could use this in a game and distract with the frog so the valk survives....

Included the engines in the camo.

Next step:
-grey for the underside. Shadow grey maybe.
-Metal parts (weapons,sensors)

Actual pic:

No frog very good paint I am building one now did you glue the troop compartment before paint or after I want to paint the interior then put it together, and then paint the outside.

sonofruss wrote:No frog very good paint I am building one now did you glue the troop compartment before paint or after I want to paint the interior then put it together, and then paint the outside.

Missing the frog? He used his "hop" special rule and evaded any pics

Crew compartment should be always painted before assembly. Doesn't matter which vehicle, if you don't paint it before, no way to get it halfway decent later. Valk got only simple fortress grey inside and colored mechanicum shrine. Added some shadows ( black or brown wash ) at the sides and some drybrushed metal at the floor.

Your camo scheme is great for avoiding attack from above but the undercarriage has to avoid attack from below.
Blue/grays are best for the look of it but if your realy wanting it to blend in to its suroundings inatural fact pink/gray fits perfectly in with thoes cloudy days.

imperialist dog wrote:Your camo scheme is great for avoiding attack from above but the undercarriage has to avoid attack from below.
Blue/grays are best for the look of it but if your realy wanting it to blend in to its surroundings inatural fact pink/gray fits perfectly in with those cloudy days.

Pink

Decided to go for "shadow-grey" there.

Paint a Frog decal on the valk as nose art!

Oh, the Frog is Heavy Support.

Getting near completion

Any other suggestion than the famous frog as "art" or tactical sign?


Valk 90% done:

a frog for nose art would be cool,like a frog holding a big gun

31rls31 wrote:a frog for nose art would be cool,like a frog holding a big gun

gateway furry.

any tutorials on how you did the camo?

The camo on the valk looks great, it doesn't work next to the sink, cos i can see it easily.
You should also exchange the multiple rocket pods for Frog launchers