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So a bit of detective work by one of my guys confirmed that the Eldar Nightspinner is coming out.

The new Previews Magazine from Diamond Comics came out today, and if you turn to page 420 you will see an ad for Whitedwarf. Small lettering at the top of the White Dwarf says something like "Rules for the new Eldar Nightspinner".

Rumored to include plastic parts for the fire prism as well.

Neato? If they make a plastic support weapon kit maybe Shadow Weavers will get upgraded.

A plastic Nightspinner? Thank god! Finally a way to quiet the chorus of voices clamoring for its production!

Awesome! I will be purchasing several of these kits for my Space Elves.

Hot!

Great find, very keen of you to spot it.

Great find. I'm not sure how useful a Night Spinner will be, but another nice plastic kit for my Eldar is a plus.

I'm tempted to get a Night Spinner just to unconvert a metal Fire Prism to plastic for better balance.

Ta da !

Ta to Mr. Scryer in the darkness for the scan/pic.

Might give one an idea of what the Manticore might look like... Epic eh ?

Yeah, they're definitely not going with the codex art look, but with the old epic look instead. I would have preferred a codex art style Manticore/Hydra kit, but I guess I'll reserve final judgment when I see the actual model.

DRIVE!
ME!
CLOSER!

It does make it easier to double as the Deathstrike this way.

Ok. Old look Manticores.

Said it before and will say it again - I'm glad I have my FW trio.

Are you sure it'll be the old look? Since the advent of 5th edition GW has stuck pretty closely to the published art, or to copying established Forgeworld designs.

Why is GW releasing a Nightspinner when it isn't even in the Eldar codex ; - ;

Because the plastic sprue with the fire prism looked so empty

Scottywan82 wrote:It does make it easier to double as the Deathstrike this way.

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My thoughts exactly. And I can also understand why it might not double as a Hydra.

Hopefully the rules for the night spinner arent the old rules.. Or people will quickly accumulate lots of useless bits!

H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok. Old look Manticores.

Said it before and will say it again - I'm glad I have my FW trio.

I'm glad I'm not taking any either way.

If that's how they're going to look, that's incredibly stupid. Why the feth would you do it like that, GW?
Why?

Kanluwen wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Ok. Old look Manticores.

Said it before and will say it again - I'm glad I have my FW trio.

I'm glad I'm not taking any either way.

If that's how they're going to look, that's incredibly stupid. Why the feth would you do it like that, GW?
Why?

Because then they can charge you extra for a Hydra Flak Tank

Smarter way to have done it from the get-go would have been a Hydra/Manticore kit and offer the Hydra/Manticore sprues available separately.

I would have bought DOZENS for the fortress I'm planning.

Night spinner, I can't remember this one from the old epic days?

For the manticore, I hope it includes the Deathstrike option so I can magnetize between the two. C'mon, taking three Deathstrikes in a normal 40k game would be awesome!

Nurglitch wrote:Are you sure it'll be the old look? Since the advent of 5th edition GW has stuck pretty closely to the published art, or to copying established Forgeworld designs.

You seein' the same picture that I am Nurgy? On the front of the WD? I doubt that's the Deathstrike (given it has more than 1 missile), so I'm going to assume that that's some new artwork for the Manticore.

Kanluwen wrote:
If that's how they're going to look, that's incredibly stupid. Why the feth would you do it like that, GW?
Why?

I think it's incredibly smart, and also awesome. Why would GW want to undercut it's other business like they did with the Valk? Also, now players have 2 options for how they want their tanks to look. You can go GW style, or FW style. It's brilliant and awesome at the same time.

whitedragon wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:
If that's how they're going to look, that's incredibly stupid. Why the feth would you do it like that, GW?
Why?

I think it's incredibly smart, and also awesome. Why would GW want to undercut it's other business like they did with the Valk? Also, now players have 2 options for how they want their tanks to look. You can go GW style, or FW style. It's brilliant and awesome at the same time.

It's stupid, plain and simple. They didn't "undercut" Forge World. FW's catalog is, at any and all times, subject to GW deciding to convert things into plastic. Look at the Skyray and Piranha kits.

Anyways:
IF they had gone with the Codex artwork, they could have easily done a Hydra/Manticore combined kit, and even with a possibility for a Deathstrike.
Really. It would have been so stupidly easy that a monkey could have done it.
That's three kits in one, and selling the sprues individually?
My God, it would have been like PRINTING MONEY when considering people who are always looking for scenic pieces.

Keep the Manticore and Hydras' carriage as being sold by Forge World, and again--printing their own money for people doing terrain or objective pieces. Someone has to buy a sprue direct(at a relatively high price as we all know) from GW, or second-hand from someone who already bought the kit--and then they have to buy the carriage direct from FW.

Bleargh.
It just strikes me as so stupid to ruin a good thing with this crap.

Farmer wrote:Why is GW releasing a Nightspinner when it isn't even in the Eldar codex ; - ;

My thoughts exactly. Perhaps because theystill don't have what they never have:

Editiorial guardianship and consistent creative direction?

This is the perfect example of the kind of behavior that convinced me GW wasn't just making great rules to sell overpriced models as some sort of plot, because:

They make models they don't have rules for
and
They make rules for things they don't have models for

Unbelievable every time it happens either way.

Hopefully at least it will be a cool kit!

Kanluwen wrote:[It's stupid, plain and simple. They didn't "undercut" Forge World. FW's catalog is, at any and all times, subject to GW deciding to convert things into plastic. Look at the Skyray and Piranha kits.

Bleargh.
It just strikes me as so stupid to ruin a good thing with this crap.

So essentially, because you don't like it....it's stupid?

As for your analogy of the Skyray and Pirahna, and the Valkyrie, GW did copy the designs over. However, maybe they have noticed a lack of sales for those particular kits from FW, and decided to go a different route for newer kit releases, so as not to invalidate their existing catalog offerings. (I mean, if you sell something, and then I decide to sell the same thing cheaper, but out of plastic, well why would anyone buy from you anymore? And if we are both part of the same company, why would I undercut you like that? It doesn't make any sense.)

Also, the Pirahna and Skyray were brought into plastic to go with the release of the new tau codex, and GW stated that every codex entry would have a model. Anyway, times change and maybe they have data to suggest it's not a good idea.

And I think it will look awesome.

It's not so much that it's "stupid to change it".
The design, from what I can see, is however ridiculous in my opinion.
As it stands:
It looks like they took the idea from the Russian "Stalin's Organ" from WW2.
Y'know, the trucks that they mounted racks of missiles on the roof of. That's...kinda silly for an armored vehicle.

But meh. We'll agree to disagree on the feel of it, how's that sound Whitedragon?

As for "why the Nightspinner gets a model"?

Read the picture.
"Full rules for the Eldar Nightspinner included".

Kanluwen wrote:The design, from what I can see, is however ridiculous in my opinion.
As it stands:
It looks like they took the idea from the Russian "Stalin's Organ" from WW2.
Y'know, the trucks that they mounted racks of missiles on the roof of. That's...kinda silly for an armored vehicle.

So silly a design that the Russians actually built it, that they didn't use a truck at all in the 60's when they designed it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub

If you're using the Russians as an example of good manufacturing ideas, I point you towards their flying tank.