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2010/05/24 17:39:45
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Ruthless Rafkin
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http://www.40kradio.com/archives/937
Spencer wrote:What a long crazy journey this has been! I want to thank each and everyone who listened to the show. You truly made it an enjoyable experience. Meeting you all at live events or on the chat or on the phone has been amazing. It is something I will never forget. In light of recent threats to myself and my family I have decided to close down the show. I did not start this to allow people a platform to attack my family. This is a show about little toy men….moving on little toy worlds. It was supposed to be fun. Personal attacks and threats take that fun away.
I will miss all of you.
Thanks for listening.
The show and all of its contents are for sale. If you are interested please send me an email
When did people feel the need to threaten people over a toy soldier game podcast? What the hell, people?
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-Loki- wrote:
40k is about slamming two slegdehammers together and hoping the other breaks first. Malifaux is about fighting with scalpels trying to hit select areas and hoping you connect more. |
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2010/05/24 17:42:15
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Not only that, what could they have possibly said that proved controversial or offending enough to warrant someone issuing threats? Bizarre...
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2010/05/24 17:44:56
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Lethal Lhamean
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So anyone got the cliff notes on this internet drama?
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2010/05/24 17:45:38
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Phanobi
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I think people were upset that Spencer gave his two cohosts the boot.
No reason to post threats, but this is the internet and people in general are jackasses.
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My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings. Look on My works, Ye Mighty, and despair.
Chris Gohlinghorst wrote:Holy Space Marine on a Stick.
This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
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2010/05/24 18:05:58
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Anyone else got anything to add? I don't follow 40k radio, but I don't like to see someone chased off the interwebs because people are threatening his family. If you don't like him kicking off his co-hosts, don't you stop listening and not bother with threats?
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In the dark future, there are skulls for everyone. But only the bad guys get spikes. And rivets for all, apparently welding was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. -from C.Borer |
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2010/05/24 18:14:41
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Wraith
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Ozymandias wrote:I think people were upset that Spencer gave his two cohosts the boot.
No reason to post threats, but this is the internet and people in general are jackasses.
Where did this info come from? I just DL the latest ep and over halfway through, no mention of this.
Also, I am not surprised he would be sensitive to the family thing, considering their recent loss.
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Bam, said the lady!
DR:70S+GM++B+I+Pw40k09/f++D++A(WTF)/hWD153R+++T(S)DM++++
Dakka, what is good in life?
To crush other websites,
See their user posts driven before you,
And hear the lamentation of the newbs.
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2010/05/24 18:20:12
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The gist of it is this, the hosts of 40k radio had a falling out. In the interim while their issues were being resolved Spencer brought back a Jar Jar, a host who had formerly been banned because he used the n-word during the marathon show. He was drunk, it was some 20 odd hours in but they felt strongly enough about keeping the show user friendly that they banned him temporarily. Because they brought back Jar Jar, someone started sending threatening e-mails.
The text of the e-mail is on the main page of 40kradio.com
Spencer decided that if people were going to start sending him messages telling him that he was a racist, blaming him for his wife's miscarrage, and threatening his family it wasn't worth it to him to keep the podcast running.
Like Spencer or hate him, sending him e-mails threatening his family and blaming him for his wife's miscarriage is not cool.
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2010/05/24 18:23:28
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Everyone involved in this is incredibly lame. Nerds on the internet (I understand the hypocrisy here, no need to point it out) always have the stupidest and pettiest drama bombs.
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2010/05/24 18:26:59
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ixquic wrote:Everyone involved in this is incredibly lame. Nerds on the internet (I understand the hypocrisy here, no need to point it out) always have the stupidest and pettiest drama bombs.
Welcome to the internet, here is your complementary basket of pornography and one free coupon for a lobotomy of the frontal lobe.
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2010/05/24 18:27:06
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thanks. I had read the 40k radio front page, but the message makes a lot more sense understanding the context. What a loss. I didn't listen to 40k radio, but it promoted the hobby, and I see that as a good thing.
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2010/05/24 18:27:27
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Ruthless Rafkin
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To Quote:
http://www.40kradio.com/archives/933
I recieved this email today.
Stephen Hope wrote:Thanks for bringing the racist donkey-cave back. Just so you know I have chatted with your sponsors regarding this and am trying to get them to drop you. I have a few others online doing the same. We have started a following and will try to topple and undermine you. I also hope that your affairs are all in order.
Ever think that your wife’s miscarriage is due to your actions? I say good riddance, one less racist to be raised in the world. Its Instant Karma in my mind.
Again, I hope your affairs are in order. Seriously.
Wow! This is the type of people that play Warhammer 40K? Jar Jar is back because I believe in giving people second chances. What kind of world do we live in, that you cannot give someone a second chance? He made a huge mistake and he apologized for it. I feel that he has a lot of knowledge to bring to this show and over the past 3 shows he has shown that.
I am always open to listen to listeners opinions…..but you Stephen Hope and Jack the Rippa and your cult like followers are just complete fething idiots!
Feel free to give your thoughts here……
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-Loki- wrote:
40k is about slamming two slegdehammers together and hoping the other breaks first. Malifaux is about fighting with scalpels trying to hit select areas and hoping you connect more. |
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2010/05/24 18:28:21
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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Wraith
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weirdness in the nets. editted doublepost and original disappeared.
Do they rely on sponsors so badly now that the threat is actually is a concern?
Being on the net this long, I would have thought he would have a thicker skin, but I guess recent events make it thin.
I hope he takes time away and re-evaluates.
Either way, the show will be missed. Even with the up and down quality, I still enjoyed it.
Because of the sound quality, I can only listen to other Podcasts that are similar in quality. ie, D6G and Iron Agenda.
Again I hope he takes some time away and makes a less emotional reaction.
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Bam, said the lady!
DR:70S+GM++B+I+Pw40k09/f++D++A(WTF)/hWD153R+++T(S)DM++++
Dakka, what is good in life?
To crush other websites,
See their user posts driven before you,
And hear the lamentation of the newbs.
-Frazzled-10/22/09 |
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2010/05/24 18:35:49
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Sslimey Sslyth
Busy somewhere, airin' out the skin jobs.
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I have never failed to seize on 4+ in my life!
The best 40k page in the Universe
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2010/05/24 18:39:06
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Douchey? Yes.
Threatening? Huh?
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2010/05/24 18:41:39
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Confessor Of Sins
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welcome to the internet... where the crazies hang out
btw... so I don't get threats... I specifically mean the people that would get upset over something minor
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2010/05/24 18:48:27
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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The show was basically unwatchable anyway. No real loss. D6 and Worlds End are far more entertaining.
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2010/05/24 18:48:47
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That is beyond stupid.
1. Just because he used a term, does not make him a racist. It does make him stupid, but not a racist. (I know they are often one and the same, but my understanding was he used it a passing way and was not actually attacking a person or groups of people.
2. Why would you bring someones personal life (that truly had nothing to do with the incident) into this. I would love to know who sent that email. I would think people would be just as upset with him for his stupidity as he is with 40K.
I have my issues with 40k Radio. Not the people themselves, just how they ran it. I would never bring into the situation someones family, especially given the circumstances of what has happened to him over the last few weeks.
I personally would not wish what happened to Spencer and his family on anyone.
I hope he knows that not every critic is out to hurt him personally. Some of us just disagree with what the show has evolved into, that doesnt mean we dislike you Spence
Heck I owe alot of what my game has evolved into to you Chipley, Scott, and Jar Jar. Thanks Guys
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2010/05/24 18:50:09
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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[DCM]
GW Public Relations Manager (Privateer Press Mole)
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Surreal.
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2010/05/24 18:51:41
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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But the comment about his wife is totally deplorable.
I don't know the family or have ever heard of 40KRadio but am upset by those comments.
"I hope your affairs are in order?" Wha.. !?
Do some people spend so much time in an imaginary Grimdark they can't disassociate it from the real world or something?
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2010/05/24 18:59:03
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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I believe there may actually be more to the email and that there is another person who sent crap emails as well. This is one of those rare times people on the net need point out and identify who these idiots are. Not saying posting information or anything but they need to be banned from everything. IF these guys enter your tourney give them their money back and send them on the way. They play at the local FLGS, not anymore go somewhere (like hell) and play. Having a 40k party everyone but these losers get to come. They do not get to be a part of this community anymore. They want to join a forum....nope don't let them on. IF they are members here......ban them. We can all get on here and rail about how bad this is and how wrong these guys are. THis is also where we should step up and defend what is right. Like Spencer or hate him this is way over the line.
Chris Bryant
Blade n Bolter Boyz
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2010/05/24 19:00:29
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Racists don't get second chances. I wouldn't of touched the guy with a bargepole after kicking him off the show. Look at Big Ron Atkinson.
Schoolboy error.
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2010/05/24 19:02:55
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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His affairs needing to be in order can be a number of things.
Without knowing anything else I dont think that can be thought of as a threat.
It could mean that he is going to make spencer lose all his sponsors, and his affairs could mean his bank accounts, money, cash flow etc.
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2010/05/24 19:05:22
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If using the "n-word" is the definition of racism, then every African American rapper and pro athlete is a racist. Using or not using deragatory words does or doesn't make you a racist, what's in your mind and heart does. Automatically Appended Next Post: The point of that threat was very clear. Whether it was serious or not, we don't know. But the point was clear. If the sender just wanted to make him lose sponsors, he wouldn't have used that language.
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In the dark future, there are skulls for everyone. But only the bad guys get spikes. And rivets for all, apparently welding was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. -from C.Borer |
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2010/05/24 19:07:41
Subject: Re:40k Radio is no more.
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Kid_Kyoto
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Wow, so apparently it's okay to respond to people who use "hate speech" (I cringe as I type that) with more hateful speech that actually is hateful and not just a taboo word? Saying things that are "bad words" is one thing, but I feel as though the language used in that email is far more vile. Not cool, Mr. Hope. Not cool.
To Spencer: That email from him seems irrational at best, threatening at worst. If this is worrying you enough to stop the show, I'd consider contacting authorities.
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2010/05/24 19:10:45
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Lethal Lhamean
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Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:
Do some people spend so much time in an imaginary Grimdark they can't disassociate it from the real world or something?
I would of killed him with me chainsaw BFTBG..
Some of this thread responses are hilarious also.
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2010/05/24 19:13:28
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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dietrich wrote:If using the "n-word" is the definition of racism, then every African American rapper and pro athlete is a racist. Using or not using deragatory words does or doesn't make you a racist, what's in your mind and heart does.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
The point of that threat was very clear. Whether it was serious or not, we don't know. But the point was clear. If the sender just wanted to make him lose sponsors, he wouldn't have used that language.
Whether you like it or not that simply isn't the case. You cannot use that word, as you yourself can attest to with the "n-word" abbreviation.
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2010/05/24 19:15:01
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Kid_Kyoto
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Blasphemers don't get second chances. I wouldn't of touched the guy with a bargepole after kicking him off the show. Look at Nicolaus Copernicus.
Fixed that for you, leejerrum. I could also have gone with lawbreakers, homosexuals, intolerants, left-handed, right-handed, colorblind, or disabled people. Good thing you're so just and mighty that you've never done a thing requiring forgiveness.
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2010/05/24 19:15:25
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wow. Just wow. That dude is out of line big time. You can like, or dislike the show, but making a comment about a private matter like that is classless and deplorable. What I'd like to know is what the hell happened that caused a falling out with Chipley, Scott, and Spencer? I thought they were all really good friends? I for one have been a listener from the beginning. They provided me with free entertainment at their cost. Something I am thankful for. Like it or not, they did good things with that show. Something to be proud of. Their community celebrity status and its effects would be my guess of what caused any rifts amongst the hosts. Well, hopefully, someone can take hold of the reigns and forge ahead. If not, good job you guys. You had a great run.
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2010/05/24 19:19:53
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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leejerrum wrote:dietrich wrote:If using the "n-word" is the definition of racism, then every African American rapper and pro athlete is a racist. Using or not using deragatory words does or doesn't make you a racist, what's in your mind and heart does.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
The point of that threat was very clear. Whether it was serious or not, we don't know. But the point was clear. If the sender just wanted to make him lose sponsors, he wouldn't have used that language.
Whether you like it or not that simply isn't the case. You cannot use that word, as you yourself can attest to with the "n-word" abbreviation.
If you want to call Jar Jar a racist that's all well and good but it doesn't justify blaming someone for the still birth of their child because a word was said... that's beyond uncool.
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2010/05/24 19:30:15
Subject: 40k Radio is no more.
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Calculating Commissar
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What the hell is this crap? I mean seriously. Giving people second chances is wrong all of a sudden? And not even criminals, just people who commit some of the gravest social faux pas in our society. Wasn't there some guy going around the place in a toga and sandals saying something about throwing stones at people?
I didn't even like 40k Radio, and I still think this is deplorable.
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