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I mean come on, if that rumor of 4 points for boyz, I will just run them with barefists, keep my +1 A for 2 close ranged weapons and run even more boyz for 60 less points! That is pretty darn broken especially if they are S4 for furious charge.
Maff comes to 120 points for 30 boyz, every 2 squads of 30 I save one whole squad to buy another! In a tide list of at least 5 mobs of 30 I am looking at 300 points saved! Thats 2 loaded down wagons and more Lootas!
Say cheese please!
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The update is disappointing. this just sounds like a round up of all the rumors I have heard in the past year or so. Take this one with a big grain of salt folks. We don't have anything solid on the AM yet so I really don't think that there is much to this rumor as much as I want to believe.
Stikk bommas are special among ork society for one reason - They know when you pull the pin out of a stikk bomb you throw the bomb not the pin!
There are a number of reasons why I'm skeptical, but the main one is the amount of new units being suggested. It doesn't fit the pattern for 6th edition.
Ouze wrote: The one thing that has been consistent with all of these rumors is the idea of different mobs generating tokens that can then be used to power abilities, whether they be waaagh tokens or weird tokens or whatever.
Which is good, because the one big complaint I have is that 40k is not complex enough, and would really enjoy one more thing to keep track of with little bits of crap all over the board.
? Yeah, in agreement with you. Grot, Grotz, Gretchin, etc all the same thing. Like orks would care if there were different types?
....and lo!.....The Age of Sigmar came to an end when Saint Veetock and his hamster legions smote the false Sigmar and destroyed the bubbleverse and lead the true believers back to the Old World.
I'm here in north Texas and a local shop owner and I were discussing Orks last Saturday and I said I wish they would get their update. His response was: They are getting theirs before guard, look for them in april early may
Automatically Appended Next Post: I find it interesting that the OP says the same. seems odd to me that they would get guard players drooling with the new pics... then BAM!!! here are the irks first..
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That list of rumors contains over a dozen new kits. We all know GW does not release rules without kits. Not to mentions no plastic meganobs. That will be a kit of three for whatever Centurians costs plus 5%. Mark my words, just don't waste your time tracking my assumptions.
Divination? Running and Charging when they've done their best to take it away from everyone? Charging flyers?
Sounds like wishlisting. >.>
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Yeah, the gretchin/grot split makes no sense - IIRC they've always been two words for the same creature, the current ork codex uses both terms pretty much interchangeably.
Just maybe the OP misheard and _snotlings_ are the new unit, working something like nid ripper swarms?
Hoping the 'multiple grot units' bit is true - allowing a useful all-grot army would be great for flavour (and sales)
Warsmith262 wrote: I'm here in north Texas and a local shop owner and I were discussing Orks last Saturday and I said I wish they would get their update. His response was: They are getting theirs before guard, look for them in april early may
Last chance to lie to you before the WD with the IG confirmation is released next week Keep us informed how you deal with such shop owners in Texas
It's like a summary list of all the rumors I hate the most.
Power Klaws are double strength, AP1
Aside from PKs already having a profile in the BRB, AP1 doesn't really help\fix any problems Orks have. AV10 rear armour is already gutted by the AP2 PK; the struggle is with AV14 rear (ie. landraiders) where a purchased upgrade to armourbane (chainfist) would be the most obvious.
Each unit now has Waaagh! points
Waaagh! charge now per unit, not per army.
Sluggas generate 1 Waaagh! point for each turn in combat
Shootas generate 1 point for each unit kill with shooting
Waaagh points also generated from every 3 units of 10+ models (unsure of this one)
Uggh. I facepalmed the first time I heard this rumor, and it only seems to get worst everytime I read it.
Unit gets 2pts cheaper and weapons are now upgrades.
4 point basic boys. Wholly the wrong direction to go with orks. Boyz are, and should be, more valuable than a gaunt or cultist.
Choppas are AP6. +1str AP4 on charge.
Big Choppas now +2str AP4. AP3 on charge
While Big Choppas are very likely to get AP4 (same profile exists in the Eldar codex for 5 points), AP3 on the charge would be gonzo bizarre\overpowered\lolwut? +1str Choppas are a lazy change that does nothing to fix the actual problems sluggas have. AP4 on the charge is as bizzare as AP3 Big Choppas, and would create huge swings in terms of killing power for different targets.
Flash Gitz
New range is 12 + 3D6”.
I assume this must break with all other comparable rules and is rolled for before target selection? Also doesn't fix their problems in anyway whatsoever.
Grots
Whole bunch of Grot units, including Grot Buggies, Whirlybirds, Rokkits and Snotlings
Grot Boss unit – has same stats as an Ork Boy with +1Bs
Gretchin
Now separate from Grots
Nonsensical, or partially covered by Forgeworld, and would require a huge number of new models, none of which are actual orks. At best this would be a release like the Storm Trooper mini codex.
Weirdboyz
Now have a warp powers table; either Divination, Gork or Mork
Use Waaagh! points for powers
Waaagh! points again. Also, GW has basically done anything and everything to prevent Orks from gaining access to Divination up to this point, and it makes no sense why it of all choices would be the only BRB table available.
About three times the number of new units\kits any other army has gotten.
Self explanatory.
I'm not saying the source is wrong, it's just that I'm really hoping he is.
Gak. You guys need to PM me if something happens on a weekend.
I'm on it.
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Any rumor list that doesn't include a new Mega-Armor Nobs kit feels somehow false. It just seems like the most ludicrous "kit" in the world in Finecast, with a hero-unit price-tag for something you could conceivably be fielding ten of.
Is everything in the first post or do I need to dig through the thread?
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I have to admit I am struggling with these ones, as I really can't see them focusing so much energy towards the rebel Grots idea. I suppose it might be great if it happened, a fair few folks play Goblins in fantasy, but it just seems bizarre from a 40K perspective. Maybe a staff member loves Orks but hates the BS.
"That's not an Ork, its a girl.." - Last words of High General Daran Ul'tharem, battle of Ursha VII.
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I guess the best thing about the rumors is that there are rumors (which means we may actually have a codex finally coming!). I guess its time to get ready to bite the bullet and watch my good units get bad and bad units, no one buys, get good.
I'll take the rumors as fun reading. Although choppa giving +1 strength is actually a decent fix. Drop furious charge. Orks have +1 all the time instead of first round of combat, solves complaints about orks and guardsmen being equally strong, actually give slugga and choppa combo some use again (I'm glad I didn't break the arms off that bucket of orks and swap in shootas!).
I like the WAAAGH idea.
A token system similar to the pain tokens with dark eldar would be fun.
I doubt they'd give orks a special power fist/klaw or even power weapons. I doubt deepstriking mega armour...but of course they could be making a new plastic box and trying to sell models. They/re gonna need a replacement for lootas when they nerf them (because all the ork players have already bought 3+ boxes of them). Of course I'd just settle for some rok rules!
The only distinction orks give runt/grots/grechins/orderlies is which one is most aerodynamic, and sails furthest when you kick it (to impress the other lads of course).
Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: I have to admit I am struggling with these ones, as I really can't see them focusing so much energy towards the rebel Grots idea. I suppose it might be great if it happened, a fair few folks play Goblins in fantasy, but it just seems bizarre from a 40K perspective. Maybe a staff member loves Orks but hates the BS.
Agreed. These are basically a retread of the ork rumors that keep popping up for the last year or so. Compare to this.
Batty
Spoiler:
Ork Rumors - Nov 2012 - furious charge and mob rules but all orks ( not grots or squigs) PENDING - will get FnP 6+ as a race PENDING - Most weapons will stay the same except choppas are ap6 but gain ap5 on charge and big choppers will be +2s and ap4 and ap3 on charge. PENDING - Nobz stay the same but are getting more characterful upgrades available to them, new kinds or grot assistants such as suicide grots(act alot like bomb squigs but prone to blowing up in unit) and ammo runts and attack squigs also more weapon options like Big shootas and such. PENDING - new nob mega armour unit with teleporting abilities but its teleporting works differently from conventional deepstrike bit more random. PENDING - There is a special mek character that can bestow teleportation on D3 units. PENDING - special bloodaxe character with rules that can bring back boyz units once they are destroyed, much like an imperial guard special character. PENDING - A large multi wound squigoth type creature, not FW, it is ever hungry and uses a hunger points system. if it doesn't fulfill the hunger points in enemy's it will rampage nearest unit friend or foe in order to eat. PENDING - Two new ork psychic lists for weirdboys, Mork more offencive and Gork more strategic. PENDING - Many powers in the lists get more powerful the more orks are around the weirboy, PENDING although the more powerful they are the more dangerous they are if they are miscast as they will often misdirect or hit the weirdboy and unit. PENDING - New ork only fortifications (including an ork rock) PENDING - and an ork only warlord chart.PENDING
Automatically Appended Next Post: You know, now that I look at it, Juvieus' rumors may be exact rephrases of all the old ork rumors from other people... Hmm...
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Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote: I have to admit I am struggling with these ones, as I really can't see them focusing so much energy towards the rebel Grots idea. I suppose it might be great if it happened, a fair few folks play Goblins in fantasy, but it just seems bizarre from a 40K perspective. Maybe a staff member loves Orks but hates the BS.
Well, it was possible in Gorka Morka.
I for one would like to see the return of da Red Gobbo.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
I can barely lift all this salt. S:5 on the charge Sluggas would be awesome though, my problem here is: If you get barebones boyz and have to upgrade them to have choppas, how would you represent the difference? anything sharp is considered a choppa at the moment, so would barebones have just fists? I know no one can answer this at the moment but it seems silly.
Surely the 4 point boy MUST upgrade to a shoota or a Choppa/slugga for+2 points.
The best gun in the galaxy won't save you If your opponent is bashing your brains out with a rock.
RobZie wrote: I can barely lift all this salt. S:5 on the charge Sluggas would be awesome though, my problem here is: If you get barebones boyz and have to upgrade them to have choppas, how would you represent the difference? anything sharp is considered a choppa at the moment, so would barebones have just fists? I know no one can answer this at the moment but it seems silly.
Surely the 4 point boy MUST upgrade to a shoota or a Choppa/slugga for+2 points.
Yeah, a choppa can refer to any large bladed ork weapon. It's not a specific weapon per se. It's just a big machete after all.
Not sure I believe that rumor, tbh.
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
Stormboyz
Can now assault Fliers
Must move 18” on movement if charging a flier
Hmm, very interesting if true.
I wonder if it'll carry over as a universal-style rule to other factions too?
Perhaps DE Helions or Space Wolf Blood Claw assault packs? Its definitely a new game mechanic but Ork only?
It's been something wishlisted since the Space Marine 3rd person action game came out; there's a sequence where stormboyz attack the player while he's in a Valkyrie.
1850 0 - 0 - 0
Marines 1850 1 - 0 - 0
210 points Trolls 9 - 0 - 3 
~4100
~1660
Renegades - 
4980pts Total (4980pts painted)
3730 Total (210pts painted) 
