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next week:

faster than the eye can see
the dying return
forge world


any guess ?

 RedFox wrote:
next week:

faster than the eye can see
the dying return
forge world


any guess ?

the third one likely relates simply to the admech stuff, but there's been rumors for awhile that forge world's going to be made a little more mainstream..

 RedFox wrote:
next week:

faster than the eye can see
the dying return
forge world


any guess ?

Faster than the eye can see? Jetbikes.
The dying return? Eldar!

ad mech are not coming this year


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new pictures from white dwarf

definatly thinking the neuctron laser set up is gonna be the way to run these things.

Plasma Obliterator is 230 points

BrianDavion wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
So we can keep this thread open as there is still rumors about the full Ad Mech codex right?

the 'dex isn't out yet so don't see why not

Yeah speaking of the dex. We are sure that the doctrines require a leadership test? I saw that mentioned but I don't know if was verified with any leaked pages...

Super Newb wrote:
Yeah speaking of the dex. We are sure that the doctrines require a leadership test? I saw that mentioned but I don't know if was verified with any leaked pages...

good question


as for the dunecrawler, it's gonna be two for me, one with Icarus Array and another with neutron laser+cognis heavy stubber

edit: i love how the icarus array kinda give split fire

 RedFox wrote:
ad mech are not coming this year

Got a source for that statement?

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
ad mech are not coming this year

Got a source for that statement?

sorry i can't back my statement, but it's from a trusted and reliable source....can't say no more

only thing i can say is that they are indeed coming, around this time of the year, but in 2016

 RedFox wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
ad mech are not coming this year

Got a source for that statement?

sorry i can't back my statement, but it's from a trusted and reliable source....can't say no more

As someone who is really excited by this new release and has already gotten in way too deep with the Skitarii...I hope you're right. I would like awhile to get some use out of the Skitarii by themselves before something bigger and better comes along.

Assuming AdMech are coming at all.

 ronin_cse wrote:

 RedFox wrote:

 WrentheFaceless wrote:

 RedFox wrote:
ad mech are not coming this year

Got a source for that statement?

sorry i can't back my statement, but it's from a trusted and reliable source....can't say no more

As someone who is really excited by this new release and has already gotten in way too deep with the Skitarii...I hope you're right. I would like awhile to get some use out of the Skitarii by themselves before something bigger and better comes along.

I;ve been saying for awhile now that I doubt we'll see a seperate admech 'dex. there's no real obvious place for additional stuff. that said I do find it a bit intreasting that there's no tech preist. if you lump techpreists and techmarines together, the skitarii are the one IoM army (or maybe sisters lacks one?) without a tech preist style unit

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Assuming AdMech are coming at all.

Well with how things are going, its hard to actually doubt something weird isnt comming out.. Who would have though we'd get new Harlies and Skitarri

Just doesn't make a lot of sense to bring out an expansion army for an army that isn't even out yet. Scions were out only a month before the Guard-proper 'Dex came out. Harli's at least had the Eldar and DE out before them.

This Skitarii release, to me at least, seems a bit like putting the mechno-horse before the techno-cart. I mean, they wouldn't release the Imperial Fist supplement before the Marine 'Dex, so why have they done so here?

I just doubt there will even be a proper AdMech 'Dex, or an HQ choice for the army I've waited years and years for.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just doesn't make a lot of sense to bring out an expansion army for an army that isn't even out yet. Scions were out only a month before the Guard-proper 'Dex came out. Harli's at least had the Eldar and DE out before them.

This Skitarii release, to me at least, seems a bit like putting the mechno-horse before the techno-cart. I mean, they wouldn't release the Imperial Fist supplement before the Marine 'Dex, so why have they done so here?

I just doubt there will even be a proper AdMech 'Dex, or an HQ choice for the army I've waited years and years for.

If they change the Imperial Fist supplement to the way Khorne Daemonkin or Militarum Tempestus were done?

Yeah, I could see them releasing the book before the Marine Codex. Plus it's not like that's ever stopped them from releasing a Dark Angels supplement book for Marines right?

Well if AdMech really aren't coming until next year I guess I'll just keep working on my Mechanicum until then.

Ad mech codex is coming, just not this year

 Kanluwen wrote:
If they change the Imperial Fist supplement to the way Khorne Daemonkin or Militarum Tempestus were done?

Yeah, I could see them releasing the book before the Marine Codex. Plus it's not like that's ever stopped them from releasing a Dark Angels supplement book for Marines right?

Daemonkin, like the Dark Angels Codex, are full Codices. They do not require other books.

Skitarii seem like a half measure.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just doesn't make a lot of sense to bring out an expansion army for an army that isn't even out yet. Scions were out only a month before the Guard-proper 'Dex came out. Harli's at least had the Eldar and DE out before them.

This Skitarii release, to me at least, seems a bit like putting the mechno-horse before the techno-cart. I mean, they wouldn't release the Imperial Fist supplement before the Marine 'Dex, so why have they done so here?

I just doubt there will even be a proper AdMech 'Dex, or an HQ choice for the army I've waited years and years for.

I dunno, while I think it may be a bit longer I think there probably will be another Ad. Mech Dex is some kind. As many others have said they did it with MT and AM. Also I find it strange that the Skitarii, while having just as many listings as the Harlequins, have a much cheaper codex and didn't get a painting guide or dice. Totally breaking the trend of the last bunch of releases.

Skitarii are no different than the Daemonkin, Tempestus, or Harlequin books IMO.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
If they change the Imperial Fist supplement to the way Khorne Daemonkin or Militarum Tempestus were done?

Yeah, I could see them releasing the book before the Marine Codex. Plus it's not like that's ever stopped them from releasing a Dark Angels supplement book for Marines right?

Daemonkin, like the Dark Angels Codex, are full Codices. They do not require other books.

Skitarii seem like a half measure.

It's more of a measure than Militarum Tempestus was.

*shrugs*

Three kits, one of them ludicrously overpriced, another huge and not-at-all what a lot of us imagined for Skitarii, and a tiny cut-price Codex. No HQ choice.

It's not a real Codex. When it grows up it might be.

 ronin_cse wrote:
I dunno, while I think it may be a bit longer I think there probably will be another Ad. Mech Dex is some kind. As many others have said they did it with MT and AM. Also I find it strange that the Skitarii, while having just as many listings as the Harlequins, have a much cheaper codex and didn't get a painting guide or dice. Totally breaking the trend of the last bunch of releases.

Being inconsistent is GW's only method of consistency.

To be fair to the Tempestus book, I think the concept was rather sound but the execution was awful.

If it had been one of the new style books where Sergeants could be your Warlord and there were no HQ choices? I think it would have garnered a lot more interest--especially if released long before the new Guard book.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
*shrugs*

Three kits, one of them ludicrously overpriced, another huge and not-at-all what a lot of us imagined for Skitarii, and a tiny cut-price Codex. No HQ choice.

It's not a real Codex. When it grows up it might be.

 ronin_cse wrote:
I dunno, while I think it may be a bit longer I think there probably will be another Ad. Mech Dex is some kind. As many others have said they did it with MT and AM. Also I find it strange that the Skitarii, while having just as many listings as the Harlequins, have a much cheaper codex and didn't get a painting guide or dice. Totally breaking the trend of the last bunch of releases.

Being inconsistent is GW's only method of consistency.

4 kits but yeah. It's as much a codex as Militarum Tempestus is though. I think it actually has more units than that I think?


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 Kanluwen wrote:
To be fair to the Tempestus book, I think the concept was rather sound but the execution was awful.

If it had been one of the new style books where Sergeants could be your Warlord and there were no HQ choices? I think it would have garnered a lot more interest--especially if released long before the new Guard book.

It was a good idea but yeah it boils down to literally being some units from the Guard book which was out a month later, with some different orders. So basically a page of rules for £25.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Just doesn't make a lot of sense to bring out an expansion army for an army that isn't even out yet. Scions were out only a month before the Guard-proper 'Dex came out. Harli's at least had the Eldar and DE out before them.

This Skitarii release, to me at least, seems a bit like putting the mechno-horse before the techno-cart. I mean, they wouldn't release the Imperial Fist supplement before the Marine 'Dex, so why have they done so here?

I just doubt there will even be a proper AdMech 'Dex, or an HQ choice for the army I've waited years and years for.

it makes perfect sense. you're thinking about the MT as a source for comparison but there's a hole in your logic. MT is a expansion for a product line that already existed. there are already plastic LRs, plastic guardsmen, plastic Chimeras etc.

the new Skitarii codex is the starting point here. with any luck it'll be wildly sucessful and GW's already moving to expand it.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
*shrugs*

Three kits, one of them ludicrously overpriced, another huge and not-at-all what a lot of us imagined for Skitarii, and a tiny cut-price Codex. No HQ choice.

It's not a real Codex. When it grows up it might be.

 ronin_cse wrote:
I dunno, while I think it may be a bit longer I think there probably will be another Ad. Mech Dex is some kind. As many others have said they did it with MT and AM. Also I find it strange that the Skitarii, while having just as many listings as the Harlequins, have a much cheaper codex and didn't get a painting guide or dice. Totally breaking the trend of the last bunch of releases.

Being inconsistent is GW's only method of consistency.

4 kits but yeah. It's as much a codex as Militarum Tempestus is though. I think it actually has more units than that I think?

Tempestus Command Squad(HQ)
Commissar(HQ)
Tempestus Squad(Troops)
Taurox Prime(Fast Attack)
Valkyrie Squadron(Fast Attack)
Ground Assault Formation(Commissar, Command Squad, I think 4 Tempestus Squads--everything mounted in Taurox Primes)
Airborne Assault Formation(The same but with Valkyries instead)

In all honesty, it comes down to what one would count as a strictly Tempestus item(IMO: The Tempestus Squad, Taurox Primes and Command Squads fit the bill there for reasons I'll get into in a moment).

 Kanluwen wrote:
To be fair to the Tempestus book, I think the concept was rather sound but the execution was awful.

If it had been one of the new style books where Sergeants could be your Warlord and there were no HQ choices? I think it would have garnered a lot more interest--especially if released long before the new Guard book.

It was a good idea but yeah it boils down to literally being some units from the Guard book which was out a month later, with some different orders. So basically a page of rules for £25.

They also changed up the way you took the Scions. Scions are fielded in Platoons in IG as Elites whereas in MT you fielded Squads and they were Troops.
It was disappointing they had no Relics or anything special though. I felt kind of bad selling my MT book on to someone else; but they wanted it despite my warnings.

Sorry, Geek, yes, 4 kits. Forgot about the gangly ones.

BrianDavion wrote:
it makes perfect sense. you're thinking about the MT as a source for comparison but there's a hole in your logic. MT is a expansion for a product line that already existed. there are already plastic LRs, plastic guardsmen, plastic Chimeras etc.

the new Skitarii codex is the starting point here. with any luck it'll be wildly sucessful and GW's already moving to expand it.

MT came out a whole month before the 'proper' Guard Codex. For this to be equivalent then surely the AdMech 'Dex should follow quite quickly?

He has a scope on his head.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Sorry, Geek, yes, 4 kits. Forgot about the gangly ones.

BrianDavion wrote:
it makes perfect sense. you're thinking about the MT as a source for comparison but there's a hole in your logic. MT is a expansion for a product line that already existed. there are already plastic LRs, plastic guardsmen, plastic Chimeras etc.

the new Skitarii codex is the starting point here. with any luck it'll be wildly sucessful and GW's already moving to expand it.

MT came out a whole month before the 'proper' Guard Codex. For this to be equivalent then surely the AdMech 'Dex should follow quite quickly?

right but my point is the IG already had a mini range. meanwhile there isn't a Admech Mini range (the closest we'd get is tech preists and tech marines. which does not a codex make) thus we CAN'T compare the two as the MT where basicly a supplement to something that already existed.

if GW wants to produce a larger admech 'dex they'll have to basicly start from scratch. so expecting a seperate admech codex in a month or two is overly optimistic. as GW generally doesn't like to stretch releases out over more then a month (2 month dark eldar release they did about a year ago was apparently pretty bad. I remember hearing my GW manager grumbling that it made it REALLY hard to hit his quarterly goal) so I always assumed Skitarii where going to be "it" my guess is that we're not going to get a Admech codex, but rather GW may give us small 'dexes for other admech orginizations. thus in a year or two we may see "codex Admech: Legio Cybernetica" we may also not see anything more from GW and FW'll pick up the torch and expand further.

hmm IA:14 Machines of the adeptus Mechanium?