Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Greetings my easily misguided future slaves, whose torture and soul-searing agony will keep my kabal entertained endlessly, and our skin pale, creamy, and vibrant with the raw terror you shake with upon contemplation of the Maleficarum standing before you.

I’ve long had nothing but contempt for all Astartes, and the rise of Space Wolves as a dominant force among Space Marine players has been the result of many snorts of laughter amongst our inner circle. Unimaginative as your pseudo-species of Frankenstein assemblies are, Space Mongrels hold a special place of humour in my black heart. What other legion could be so easily misguided to betray the Imperium and destroy the Emperor’s most loyal servants at but a word of a treacherous son? What other legion could be counted on to not have the intelligence to question the value of their actions? Stupid and unintelligent at best, traitorous to mankind at worst, these hypocritical, superstitious, and inept servants of Chaos designed to kill their brethren are my favorite target for both verbal sparring and for killing.

And why should that ingrained lack of imagination and innovation inherently bred into each and every Space Wolf reflect differently in any other facet of their mangy existence? Every army list is as unoriginal as the last – uninspiring and unimaginative, as if each skold gothi has a virtual replica of forces to wield.

Who doesn’t expect several units of mongrels toting missile launchers to cower in the backfield and snipe at transports? Who doesn’t expect one or several hyped up gothi elevated to priest status exercising the same wyrd that they condemn their brethren for? Minimal variance to account for the inclusion of lonewolves, Thunderwolf Cavalry, or vehicle spam as the personal philosophy of each dictates…but at the end of the day, it is the difference of icing on the cake, without substantive change.

And that, my subhuman mongrel pets, is the foundation of my lack of respect for the ineptitude of your murder-make. Your skjalds recite the memories of your mongrels against inferior foes. Against enemies without the advantages bred into the petri dishes of your polluted genes. Against an intelligent foe, you crumble. When your wyrd is matched against the tenacity of any of the superior lifeforms you arrogantly dismiss as Xenos, entire complements of your warriors sleep on red snow.

It is not arrogance for my race to claim superiority over yours, to dismiss your combat abilities, and cackle in glee that you remain imagined as faithful to the Emperor, when you have been the catalyst for ten thousand years of strife. It is simple fact. Space Wolves are inferior in every way. Every time these superstitious hypocrites take the field against me, my army half-sleeps its way through victory against them.

So there it is. I expect your feeble forces to quail before mine. Bowed in terror and humbled before your worst fears manifested in physical form: Dark Eldar. Are there any out there who would be willing to champion the cowed mongrel dogs and attempt to demonstrate that the puppies are *not* all cookie-cutter replicas of inferiority, and that they *do* have some fighting ability?

The whiskey challenge is Thursday night, the night before the Nova Invitational. Are there any out there whose tails won’t tuck between their legs as they flee the Maleficarum? I challenge all puppies, everywhere – prove to me that you aren’t the whimpering cowards that I know you are. Prove to me that Dark Eldar don’t drink Mjold better than the Wolves of Fenris. Instead of a whiskey challenge, we can call it the mjold challenge. Prove to me that every battle with Wolves isn’t a lesson in humiliation waiting for them.

Hehe, If i'm in the invitational and there early I'll punch you in the face

I won't even tweak or tune. It'll be the same wolves I've been running for over a year at that point.

Battle reports are a must for this! I am going to enjoy reading your battles with any wolves you come across!

so hows your Internet cookie cutter vemon list doing?

Devastator wrote:so hows your Internet cookie cutter vemon list doing?

Wow, someone's feeling insecure...

@Devastator

That kind of imput is needed because?

Looking forward to reading about the slaughter DoP (if you write it up of course)

Brad, didn't you get the memo? It's the internets!


GamzaTheChaos - you should come to the Open yourself and WATCH the matches in action

Hulksmash wrote:@Devastator

That kind of imput is needed because?

Probably because the entire OP post is nothing but troll bait. Fancy worded and creatively thought out, but troll bait none the less.

At a tourniment like the Nova, people bring what they think will win. At least the wolves have a few options of slightly different lists to bring. Just be thankful the OP didn't ask that the Tau leave all their Broadsides at home. You know, just to spice stuff up.

Jayden63 wrote:
At least the wolves have a few options of slightly different lists to bring. Just be thankful the OP didn't ask that the Tau leave all their Broadsides at home. You know, just to spice stuff up.

I'm afraid you misunderstand. I don't want someone to bring a nonconformist SW list. I want someone to bring their nastiest (which is cookie-cutter at this point) Space Wolves, so that I can demonstrate that even their best efforts are inadequate.

Devastator: I don't have a cookie-cutter venom list, and my list is constantly changing. In fact, what I ran at the last tournament will be different than what I run at the next - not enough wyches, and I'm contemplating adding scourges.

Dash, what will you do if someone brings a totally different Wolves list and beats you?
inb4 that won't happen. Its a what-if

Jayden63 wrote:

Hulksmash wrote:@Devastator

That kind of imput is needed because?

Probably because the entire OP post is nothing but troll bait. Fancy worded and creatively thought out, but troll bait none the less.

At a tourniment like the Nova, people bring what they think will win. At least the wolves have a few options of slightly different lists to bring. Just be thankful the OP didn't ask that the Tau leave all their Broadsides at home. You know, just to spice stuff up.

I've played Tau for 4 years and never used Broadsides

Not won many games recently mind you

I just love Tau tanks I use as many as I can get away with in a 1500pts list (see below)
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu223/AlistairM-4tk/Tau%20Army/IMG_0699.jpg

The OP is right though. There's always the same list for Wolves.

Starting to see Blood Anges all doing the same thing now take assault marines remove jetpacks get a cheap razorback and arm with assualt cannons repeat repeat etc

battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Dash, what will you do if someone brings a totally different Wolves list and beats you?
inb4 that won't happen. Its a what-if

I would be most grateful of a humiliation; it would change the tone of my derision. I've been advocating for a while now that 40k is rock/paper/scissor with Space Wolves being the Rock, Mech IG being the Scissors, and Dark Eldar being the paper. I haven't met with much agreement on the paper/rock relationship, so I'm escalating my hypothesis to a public challenge for a public fight. I realize that BT/DA are going to change things up a bit, but I don't think anything changes about the core foundation of my belief: SW are sissies that fall over.

Everyone plays 40k for different reasons; mine is to assert my superiority, then attempt to be proven wrong.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Devastator wrote:so hows your Internet cookie cutter vemon list doing?

Wow, someone's feeling insecure...

cool story bro
how is that is related to topic or are you just trolling as usual?

Egad, fellas! Let's turn the heat down a notch.

So dumb. Nothing can beat the Space wolf codex, the internets told me so.

Also, I will do you one better, and challenge you at adepticon if you are coming up. Saturday night, after I finish playing 4 rounds of grueling fantasy. (which everyone knows is much more tactical and skillful than 40k)

Timmah HAS bought his NOVA Open ticket, you know ....

I did last year too though...

:p

NO REFUNDS!

PS - this thread is about dash challenging space wolves, saying they can't possibly beat his DE.

Whiskey Challenge match to the person that takes it up ... live videocast.

I thought I already took it up And with no changes to my standard list. Hell I'll post it now and bring it in 8 months

Though my list is only cookie cutter in the sense that it uses 3 squads and does have some razorbacks in it. But hey, it's the internet. My list is the same as everyone else!

Oh, and 40k isn't rock/paper/scissor. If it was I wouldn't win regularly with Daemons, SW's, Orks, or Nids. And soon....All foot IG!!!!

Maybe your locals are bad Hulk.

Oh they're all horrible. I am most likely a piss poor player in a small pool of even worse players. And we only play kill points and don't use DoW deployments. I simply refuse to play anyone that runs IG because they are mean! But that's what makes me so good!

I love the internet! And I love you Timmah! So much love!

do you also always use KP mission?

RiTides wrote:Egad, fellas! Let's turn the heat down a notch.

Indeed, lets all turn it down a notch, unless someone is challenging back in similar good nature. Else:

Dashofpepper wrote:
I've been advocating for a while now that 40k is rock/paper/scissor with Space Wolves being the Rock, Mech IG being the Scissors, and Dark Eldar being the paper.

Well damn, I must be wielding some pretty sharp scissors, because I've been cutting rocks in half since they hit the tables.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

RiTides wrote:Egad, fellas! Let's turn the heat down a notch.

Oh come on, all of Dash's challenge threads turn into flame wars that get locked.

By the way, Dash, did you ever get that game against Stelek?

To be completely fair, I think the Space Wolf codex is capable of the highest # of competitive builds, for example:

Loganwing
Razorback Spam
Wolfstar
Drop Pod Assault
Mechanized Assault (my variant, lots of kitted out grey hunter squads with some shooty support)

...are all viable builds out of one codex. Of course, 90% of those builds include 2-3 squads of Long Fangs with missile launchers, but 90% of Ork lists include diversified Nob squads and 95% of Dark Eldar lists include 2-3 Ravagers, etc etc.

I'd take up the challenge dash, but my name means nothing in the 40k universe so I doubt I'd be eligible to play you in the Whiskey Challenge.

@Terminus: Yes he did, in last year's Whiskey Challenge against Stelek's Space Wolves

@Hulksmash: Your challenge....depends on who else offers. Are you even planning on bringing SW to the Nova Open with your copy of Mike's foot guard in the works? If there are such things, you're by bestest 40k bud, and while we can play each other whenever we want, I'd sort of prefer the challenge to be answered by someone who is righteously indignant at the scorn I heap upon their carcass of a codex.

@Griever: Do you beat face with your Space Wolves wherever you go? Definitely don't want to face off against a non-serious opponent. I'm not cataloguing you, just asking for more information.

I challenge people not to bring melta and wreck tanks with their fists and faces. Do it.

Dashofpepper wtf) you are ORK! then act like an ork!
ps. serious forgot about puppies, GK are comin.

penek wrote:Dashofpepper wtf) you are ORK! then act like an ork!
ps. serious forgot about puppies, GK are comin.

90% of my gaming in the last 15 months have been with Dark Eldar.