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So. . .apparently someone who has an advanced copy of the Codex has uploaded it to a sharing site and someone has linked to it from his blog and is now sharing with anyone quick enough to download it. Which lets someone like me get their grubby paws on it.

And according to the copy I have:

-Any Paladin can replace his Nemesis Force sword with a Warding Stave for (removed for mods) points.
-Any model in a Terminator Squad can do the same.
-And any model in a Grey Knight Strike Squad can as well, for (removed for mods) points.

-I was wrong about the Gundams. They can still take Personal Teleporters for (removed for mods) pts.
-The Shieldbreaker from the Vindicare only works on Invuls granted by Items and Wargear. Fateweaver is safe.
-Assassins have an 4++ and 6+ FNP.
-Henchmen Warbands are 3-12 models. 1 per Inquisitor, but Coteaz removes that restriction, counting them as a Troops Choice.
-Coteaz is the new Mystics. He has a 12" bubble that allows his unit to take a free shot at incoming reserves. Also, he allows you to re-roll the Sieze the Initiative, even if it is your opponent's roll.
-Inquisitorial Henchmen can have Rogue Psykers included. They have a Str. 3, AP 6 Assault Large Blast that can be fired. Increase the strength by 1 for each rogue psyker beyond the first. Lower the AP by 1 for every Rogue Psyker beyond the first.
-Jokaero Weaponsmith:

If he is in an Inquisitorial unit, roll a D6 before deployment. Add +1 to the roll for every Jokaero beyond the first:

1 - no effect
2 - all non-template weapon have their range increased by 12"
3 - all models in the unit treat their armor as 1 better than it is
4 - all shooting from this unit is Rending
5 - all models in the unit have a 5++
6 - Roll twice on the table and apply both results. Ignore duplicates.


-Paladins and Terminators both have no Dedicated Transport entry. Nor are LRs listed as Dedicated Transports.
-Grey Knight Strike Squads can only take a Dedicated Transport if no Personal Teleporters are taken.
-Mean if you want your Terminators to get up-close-and-personal, you're gonna have to Deep Strike them, put them in a Stormraven or give up a Dreadknight for a LR.
-Every vehicle has Fortitude. The driver/pilot can cast this psychic power and any Crew Shaken/Stunned results are immediately nullified.

-Grand Masters' Grand Strategy can only be applied to: Infantry, Jump Infantry, Monstrous Creatures and Walkers (but not Independent Characters, Inquisitorial Henchmen or Mordrak and his Ghost Knights).
More to come.

You're a naughty boy, Puma.

Soon, the whining about revealing info on leaked codices will begin, but you won't hear any from me.

Lay that funky info on me, buddy.

I fear someone may well be losing their job over this...

I've heard the exact opposite claims about the units you just described from someone else who has a reported PDF copy of the new codex. I believe nothing until my FLGS has the Black Box copy of the codex and I've read it myself.

filbert wrote:I fear someone may well be losing their job over this...

hopefully Matt Ward

OverwatchCNC wrote:I've heard the exact opposite claims about the units you just described from someone else who has a reported PDF copy of the new codex. I believe nothing until my FLGS has the Black Box copy of the codex and I've read it myself.

Makes me wonder if they're intentionally leaking bad PDFs. That would be a clever way of pitting the rumor mongers against each other. Puma, by chance did this PDF contain an explaination of what the wargear does, or is it just unit information/psychic powers and army rules?

Dammit, if only someone could post a link

Chad Warden wrote:

filbert wrote:I fear someone may well be losing their job over this...

hopefully Matt Ward

Actually hopefully whatever marketing director who keeps thinking that scaling back and raising prices 3 times a year is a business plan that can last another decade.

daedalus wrote:

OverwatchCNC wrote:I've heard the exact opposite claims about the units you just described from someone else who has a reported PDF copy of the new codex. I believe nothing until my FLGS has the Black Box copy of the codex and I've read it myself.

Makes me wonder if they're intentionally leaking bad PDFs. That would be a clever way of pitting the rumor mongers against each other. Puma, by chance did this PDF contain an explaination of what the wargear does, or is it just unit information/psychic powers and army rules?

The one I have contains everything but wargear. However, a lot of the wargear is explained on the unit entry pages. The one I have contains unit entries with fluff, army list (w/point cost) and things like psychic powers.

bah.. Doubt anyone's losing any job. I really don't think this stuff is leaked at all.. I think GW plants these things in different places around the interwebs with old PDFs and small/blury photos of their kid's transformers because they want to keep their "don't tell them what's coming" policy, but still make all the nerds wet their pants. In then end, the still sell us more army men.

I downloaded the leaked codex. Reading through it now. It looks scanned and has pen notes on it. Given that and the amount of text in it, it looks legit. Looks like the other leaked codices I've read over the years as well. There's a decent enough chance it's a playtest copy and some things will be changed, but it looks like the real thing. At what point in development is beyond me, but it looks real.

I won't say where to get it since that's probably breaking a Dakka rule or two, but if you're an intrepid searcher you can find anything.

Brother SRM wrote:I downloaded the leaked codex. Reading through it now. It looks scanned and has pen notes on it.

Yep, that's the one. If anyone has any questions, post em. Otherwise, I'm just going to post interesting tidbits I find.

Necros wrote:bah.. Doubt anyone's losing any job. I really don't think this stuff is leaked at all.. I think GW plants these things in different places around the interwebs with old PDFs and small/blury photos of their kid's transformers because they want to keep their "don't tell them what's coming" policy, but still make all the nerds wet their pants. In then end, the still sell us more army men.

Thing is though, people do and have lost jobs over things like this. Hell, GW employees can even be fired if they are found to frequent places like Dakka. Ask Mr 'Mystery'

So, is there anything besides "Grey Knights" in it.. like could you still do an inquisitor leading a bunch of stormtroopers? or, are we still stuck with the Demonhunters book for that? I'd think though the new book would make the old one invalid..... I was gonna just use the IG codex and count my inquisitor & his retinue as a regular HQ command squad but it'd be nice to have new & real rules

Anything on Henchmen taking a slot or not?

Thats pretty much the thing that concerns me most; along with any changes to Coteaz.

All I can say is that after seeing this, it definetly is real however it isn't a final copy.

Looks legit enough to get majority of everything you need out of it though.

Yep, grabbed it earlier too. The penned copy.

@Mr Hyena: There's a problem with discussing this because honestly, the wording is INCREDIBLY vague. Until an FAQ hits, or they reword it for the final copy, either or will pass.

@Necros: There's TONS of Inquisitorial Henchmen of all different varieties, which are used as a massive retinue. Coteaz can make these henchmen troops.


And if any mods take exception to me discussing this (notice I've only confirmed stuff that was rumoured before, and not included nuts and bolts like points costs!) then I'll be happy to delete it.

Mr Hyena wrote:Anything on Henchmen taking a slot or not?

Thats pretty much the thing that concerns me most; along with any changes to Coteaz.

Its... weird, it doesnt say specifically.. it actually seems it can go either way based on the wording..

I got a copy early this morning. However my damn printer was acting up and took me all day to print it! Crazy thing would jam after every page.

Does anyone know if the Blood Angels Stormraven has the Aegis Special rule?

Also I am looking forward to converting Inquisitor Karamazov and his Throne of Judgement.

Hmm...

On the basis of the wording so far I'll rule it as Henchmen do take a slot.

Its more balanced that way (no 1,000,000 Razorbacks/Chimeras) and it means also pure =I= is possible. Much fairer.

lunarman wrote:Dammit, if only someone could post a link

..then it would be removed, swiftly.

lunarman wrote:Dammit, if only someone could post a link

No giving directions to illegally download PDFs either, folks..

Yep, Hyena, that's how I would take it too. But there's the wording that an Inquisitor's retinue doesn't count towards the FOC, so I could see how someone could easily loophole it.

I'd still say they do fill troop slots just to avoid the fabled Chimeraspam-From-Hell(tm) list

Mr Hyena wrote:Hmm...

On the basis of the wording so far I'll rule it as Henchmen do take a slot.

Its more balanced that way (no 1,000,000 Razorbacks/Chimeras) and it means also pure =I= is possible. Much fairer.

"This unit does not use up a force organisation slot." I don't see how that can be interpreted with any sort of ambiguity.

Alrighty: Moderator Frazzled says:
No points cost listing.
No links to where you can download it.
No detailed listing of actual language from the codex.
We thank you for your compliance citizen.

No giving directions to illegally download PDFs either, folks.

Right, after taking another look at the exact wording of Coteaz's rule, I'm almost sure they take a slot. GW, if you're reading, best to change that so it's a bit more obvious. As Frazzled decreed, I can't quote it, but trust me, I'm 90% sure they intend them to take a slot per squad. Bear in mind, this doesn't stop the 3-man and a Razorback squads, just limits them to 6 (Which is still a LOT of firepower if one thinks about it.)

Neconilis wrote:

Mr Hyena wrote:Hmm...

On the basis of the wording so far I'll rule it as Henchmen do take a slot.

Its more balanced that way (no 1,000,000 Razorbacks/Chimeras) and it means also pure =I= is possible. Much fairer.

"This unit does not use up a force organisation slot." I don't see how that can be interpreted with any sort of ambiguity.

Because if it doesn't take up a slot; its going to lead to the mother of all cheesy lists.

See the 3-man Retinue squads with Razorbacks/Chimeras.

Frazzled wrote:Alrighty: Moderator Frazzled says:
No points cost listing.
No links to where you can download it.
No detailed listing of actual language from the codex.
We thank you for your compliance citizen.

...alright, we'll behave...

Fixed, didn't see mod post until after I posted.