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I was playing one of my fellow ork players the other day. I fired my killa kanon at his trukk with his warboss and his nob bodyguard. I was wondering " If they were all standing there and I blew up the back wouldn't it land on someone riding in the back?" Can someone please explain this to me? thanks

No it does not hit troops inside. Only an explosion will hit them.

Gotta remember that 40k isn't real life.


Also in the future make sure to post rule questions in the "You Make Da Call" section.

I wasn't askin if it would happen I was asking if it was a good idea. I mean there aint a friggin KKF over top of the trukk.

easy orks are pretty much suicidal in their mechanic designs, so a giant cannon on top of a large vehicle that can run over people effectively while bringing the boyz over to the enemy is gold to them. nobody cares if there are casualties or setbacks aslong as they get to kill.

Not orks in specific but to all armies, If I fired a demolisher cannon into a raider wouldn't it kill people inside because it's open topped?

I see where you're going with this, and to an extent it makes sense, but it overly nerfs open-topped transports, which are already vulnerable to firepower as it is.

If I could add a rule to 6th ed, it would be:

Open topped transports: troops inside are hit on a 4+ by ordnance and blasts that hit the vehicle

Closed topped transports: troops inside are hit automatically by ordnance and blasts that penetrate the vehicle

You see thats pretty much where I was going.

ph34r wrote:If I could add a rule to 6th ed, it would be:

Open topped transports: troops inside are hit on a 4+ by ordnance and blasts that hit the vehicle

Closed topped transports: troops inside are hit automatically by ordnance and blasts that penetrate the vehicle

yeah sometimes being in an enclosed transport is not as good as being outside. Those things become death traps when they get hit hard enough.


I would rather it be part of the damage table
either its on separate entry or part of weapon destroyed
"if you roll weapon destroyed for damage you may instead try to damage the transported models. If open topped, resolve the weapon hits against the transported squad-if its a blast template all models are hit on a 4+. If not open topped unit inside takes d6str 4 hits."


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but really I think its just easier the way they have it now, complete immunity from the outside world.

that is the way all the vehicles are balanced too. If you change a rule very drastically the points for all those vehicles is going to change

It makes sense, indeed. However, like Exergy said, its easier now, and keeps transports balanced.

edit: Thinking about it, though, I recall some stories some of my friends told me when i was going for my Master's. One guy in particular was with 3rd ID when they made their "Thunder Run" into Baghdad. His story was seeing Iraqi APCs get hit by the KE penetrators fired by Abrams tanks. What would happen is the round would go in one side of the APC, out the other, create a vaccum in the APC, and suck out the passengers through a hole a few inches wide. Turn them into mush. It might be in the "Thunder Run" book. Dunno.

Actually, be careful. Do you mean ordnance, or do you mean barrage weapons?

Back in 4th ed, blast weapons WERE better against open-topped vehicles, as if you got one hit on them, it counted as two.

Still didn't do anything to the passengers, though.

This thread shows one thing: we need a return to 2nd ed style Transports. Transport dies, so do the passengers.

I think the best way to handle it is to make the destroyed: explodes result more dangerous, rather than making it a 50/50 chance or anything like that. Possibly have anybody inside the transport when it exploded take a hit from the weapon that did the job. (open topped vehicles grant cover saves).

Keeps transports from being death traps, but at the same time makes them a calculated risk.

Yeah, that's always bothered me. A group of 10 space marines is in a rhino that utterly detonates in a massive blast. A huge fireball erupts into the air, and all that's left is a smoking crater as crew, weapons, treads, and chunks of armor are ripped apart and strewn over the battlefield.

As for the passengers in this hopeless fireball? With average rolling is that 9 out of the 10 of them come out without a scratch.

... what?

I would love to see there actually being a benefit of destroying their cheap transports... *CoughRhinosCoughhackdie*... I mean, my lascannon/Strength D weapon/massive axe or claw blows your entire vehicle to kingdom come, and, from the flaming wreckage, where nothing could've possibly survived, Guardsmen stand.

"Ready to hold the line sir!"

Ailaros wrote:Yeah, that's always bothered me. A group of 10 space marines is in a rhino that utterly detonates in a massive blast. A huge fireball erupts into the air, and all that's left is a smoking crater as crew, weapons, treads, and chunks of armor are ripped apart and strewn over the battlefield.

As for the passengers in this hopeless fireball? With average rolling is that 9 out of the 10 of them come out without a scratch.

... what?

And, even though I play Mech IG on occasion, it's even worse for Guardsmen. I mean, at least the Marines have the excuse of their armor, but when a Chimera blows up (likely to be a bigger boom thanks to the ammo for the multilaser and heavy bolter/flamer stored on board), and about half of them will end up standing in the crater, ready to fight! I am all in favor of making transports more death trappish then they are now....there is a reason real infantry disembark from their transports when they're fighting.

yep thats anoying for guard