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Is there a trick to it or something?

I tried it out tonight on some barrels (stormbolter, bolt pistol, combi-plasma, combi-melta).

Only the bolt pistol came out okay. The rest were kind of askew... the stormbolter is hella messed up.

I'm using a pin vise btw.

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Haha, oh I have the same problem. I'd suggest trying to stab a hole, or make an indention where you want to drill.

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Thanks. Maybe I'll try stabbing with one of my sculpting tools... that should help guide the bit.

I never thought much of drilling out the barrel holes... now that I've tried it, I totally want to do it to all my marines... or any other model that has a gun.
   
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Yep, just scratch the middle of the barrel where you want to drill with the point of a scalpel and you should be able to follow it in as a guide.

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I use the smallest bit I have to start, then go up in bit sizes until I get to the one I want.
Which is 0.3mm, going up to .75mm larger in 0.15mm increments (tends to make the muzzle too thin at over 0.75mm).

You can't make a hole smaller if it is too large.

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I usually push the tip of the drill into the barrel to make a mark as close to the center as I can. From there, I start really slowly with only a few turns and then check that I'm still centered. Once the hole starts to take shape, then I'll start drilling regularly.

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sailense wrote:I usually push the tip of the drill into the barrel to make a mark as close to the center as I can. From there, I start really slowly with only a few turns and then check that I'm still centered. Once the hole starts to take shape, then I'll start drilling regularly.


Cool beans... I'll try that... I think I was being impatient and just drilled away. I should treat it like a Baldur's Gate fight with pausing every once in a while to check progress.
   
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I have a few people testing a little gizmo/tool called "Barrel Buddy".

Basically, it's a little gadget that lines up the bit with the center of the barrel.

I think we're happy with the progress being made, the big question is going to be whether there's enough demand to make it worthwhile.

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You don't need a special tool for centring your bit. Just find the centre of the barrel with your knife and twist it around a bit.

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The marking the center technique is crucial in drilling. When you drill barrels or magnetising precision is needed.
   
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Obviously we are talkin about using a vice here right? I have a vice and a drill on an arm that will go down in a dead pan straight line, I mark the drill head with ink do a dry run to make sure it's going dead center, then drill a few mm into the barrel, this is done on all of my lasguns.

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I use a small electric hand drill. The drill part itself is as big as the one offered by GW. All you have to do is make a small indent first, and then hold the gun. It goes much faster than by hand, and I think the results are just as fine, especially for bigger holes such as exhaust pipes on bikes.

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I found recently that drilling out the flash hider first made drilling the barrell easier.

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The easiest way I've found is to use a fine tip pen (ie: Micron) to draw a line on the barrel bisecting it vertically and then horizontally this will give you the center you need.

Next take the tip of a fresh or still sharp exacto knife and put it on the center of the cross you made earlier. Twist until you have a good indent made. Then line up your pin vice tip with the indent and drill in.

I use this method and can usually get a centered hole. the one problem I tend to have is if the bit in the vice is worn or off center. When that happens there is nothing saving that hole from being off center.

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UsdiThunder wrote:The easiest way I've found is to use a fine tip pen (ie: Micron) to draw a line on the barrel bisecting it vertically and then horizontally this will give you the center you need.

Next take the tip of a fresh or still sharp exacto knife and put it on the center of the cross you made earlier. Twist until you have a good indent made. Then line up your pin vice tip with the indent and drill in.

I use this method and can usually get a centered hole. the one problem I tend to have is if the bit in the vice is worn or off center. When that happens there is nothing saving that hole from being off center.


Wow.
I was just coming in to give almost the exact advice. I just do mine slightly different.

I make my lines with an exacto first. It doen't take much pressure. I just like having that slight indentation. It helps the tools stay in line better.
Then, I use the tip of the exacto in the exact manner your describing.

For plastic barrels, I move straight to the pin vice from there. If I'm drilling metal, however, I will also "round out" the exacto hole a little better by inserting the pointed tip of a hobby file into it and twisting. This solidifies the hole and helps the drill bit stay in place a bit better.

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Well dang! Thank you folks for all the suggestions/help. I wasn't thinking of doing any modeling work this evening but I may just change my plans so I can try out drilling holes in boltguns.
   
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I know that boltgun holes are generally drilled...

how about the following:

Plasmagun
Meltagun
Flamer
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I drill them all, even metal ones. Just be careful, cause Plasmaguns have smaller barrels.
   
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I drill all of those but lasguns, as I never thought that laser weapons would have a hole in them, as they don't fire a solid a round, its more of well, a laser.


 
   
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Retrias wrote:Wouldn't plasma or melta do the same?


Not really, they still have barrels as they're firing projectiles (or in the melta's case, a huge beam of heat)

 
   
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If you want to drill, just drill them all.
Technically, Las weaponry fires a beam of light, but all fluff indications seem to support that there's a barrel involved somehow.

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MagickalMemories wrote:
Technically, Las weaponry fires a beam of light, but all fluff indications seem to support that there's a barrel involved somehow.

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Plasma and melta weapons shoot some sort of gas and thus probably should be drilled. Laser based weapons don't need it.

 
   
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Thanks for the thoughts/info folks! Now I just need some bits for bigger holes (ex: heavy bolter).
   
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Also, hobby knives are fine. They leave a cone-shaped hole rather than a cylindrical one, but that's hard to notice.

More importantly, when you start going in off-center, you can use the knife to carve out the side of the too-thick side and finish it up with a nice even thickness on the rim.


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I use my pin vice and make a small indentation by turning it a little so it makes an..indent, if it needs adjusting I angle it in the direction it needs to go and turn the pin vice some more till it looks center, here are a couple of boyz I finished
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Thanks for the tip! Great looking guns on those orks!

   
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You are always welcome! it's a hard trick to pull off cause space marine bolters cause the bore is alot smaller

 
   
 
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