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Okay, I see Im not the only one frustrated at finding ways to convert stuff into wraiths and Scythes so heres my stab at it. Im too lazy to say how I converted them this way, but it should be easy enough to figure out from my pics.

The Doom Scythe just doesn't work. Sorry for sounding harsh but it just looks like a slap-dash Falcon conversion.

I think by switching out the Eldar weapons for Necron weapons, and actually making a Necron pilot rather than using a Necron head on an Eldar pilot, the model would look a lot better.

I kinda like the doom scythe, it reminds me of a stargate Jaffa fighter (forget what they're called). Shave the blips off of it & add some tomb kings bits to it to start. Also, definitely use full necron for the pilot, I realize it's probly just in the mock-up stages but I honestly like it. BTW, if you use the chaos vehicle accessory sprue armor plates it'll help, namely the 3 I've circled:

The first two are pretty much perfect Necron symbols & the third works well also.

Thank you all for the input. This was my first vehicle test model, so now I know what to do. New pics around Wednesday

yea... the doom scythe just looks like an eldar ship with some weapons slapped on it :(

I know I'd be buying necrons myself if only they released a kit for it.

Red_Starrise wrote:I kinda like the doom scythe, it reminds me of a stargate Jaffa fighter (forget what they're called). Shave the blips off of it & add some tomb kings bits to it to start. Also, definitely use full necron for the pilot, I realize it's probly just in the mock-up stages but I honestly like it. BTW, if you use the chaos vehicle accessory sprue armor plates it'll help, namely the 3 I've circled:

The first two are pretty much perfect Necron symbols & the third works well also.

No they're not. They're quite clearly chaos stars, which if he puts it on the vehicle will make it look even more slapdash. If you're going to make proper Necron symbols I suggest picking up some of those bulletin board letters and using the relevant letters (namely O, I and C but you can obviously cut up others to make similar shapes) to make proper Necron symbols.

EDIT: for further clarification of my ramblings- http://s3.zetaboards.com/The_Ammobunker/single/?p=8161889&t=7360670

looks similiar in shape to a doom scythe.. just need some more work.. buy a battle barge and combine it with the falcon to get the guns and stuff..is what I intend to do.. should be enough spare parts..hey and if you have fun with it and you like it.. thats whats important not if we like your model or not.

Man that's a Falcon grav with like 3 changes. Not trying to be a jerk or anything But boy that just does not work. Maybe cutting all eldarish stuff off, maybe so far as to cut the wings off themselves too, put them on another side?

FWIW here's some Necron flyers I made years ago (and are sadly still WIP, though this will change now that they have a codex entry).



These are obviously based on the Monolith hull, though if you are going to emulate the codex entry you need a shape like the Tombship from BFG. Although the Falcon resembles it a little it is still a too distinctive silhouette.

Sorry to say it, but that "Doom Scythe" is god awful. It's just a Falcon/Night Spinner bash.

It doesn't look Necron, it looks like some kind of Eldar Tank variant.

Marzillius wrote:Sorry to say it, but that "Doom Scythe" is god awful. It's just a Falcon/Night Spinner bash.

It doesn't look Necron, it looks like some kind of Eldar Tank variant.

This is the most converting Im doing. Its 100% GW so hate all you want or try to build your own.

Grimtuff wrote:FWIW here's some Necron flyers I made years ago (and are sadly still WIP, though this will change now that they have a codex entry).



These are obviously based on the Monolith hull, though if you are going to emulate the codex entry you need a shape like the Tombship from BFG. Although the Falcon resembles it a little it is still a too distinctive silhouette.

This is Awesome! What did you use in parts for these flyers. I could make those into Night scythes. the blockyness and angle of the model fits with my themed Necron army.

I think the biggest problem you have here is that the Eldar tanks have a very distinct shape and getting people to not see that is going to be hard.

Saying that the changes you've made have improved it greatly and I'm interested to see how it'll look when finished.

Marzillius wrote:Sorry to say it, but that "Doom Scythe" is god awful. It's just a Falcon/Night Spinner bash.

It doesn't look Necron, it looks like some kind of Eldar Tank variant.

I don't understand why people feel the need to post this kind of cruelty. I mean, really, does it just make you feel good about yourself to insult someone else's work? And don't say you're sorry when you blatantly make a rude remark.

I actually kinda like it, personally. It has that stargate feel I absolutely love about the Necrons.

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Red_Starrise wrote:

Marzillius wrote:Sorry to say it, but that "Doom Scythe" is god awful. It's just a Falcon/Night Spinner bash.

It doesn't look Necron, it looks like some kind of Eldar Tank variant.

I don't understand why people feel the need to post this kind of cruelty. I mean, really, does it just make you feel good about yourself to insult someone else's work? And don't say you're sorry when you blatantly make a rude remark.


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I don't say it because I want to make someone feel bad. I should have phrased it differently, but it doesn't change that it looks like a freaking Eldar tank. Just incredibly out of place.

In order to improve it, the hull needs to be cut up and swing them a bit to each side, opening a bigger hole in the middle. Thats pretty much it. In the later images most gems are gone, the crevices are covered and the guns are actually Necron. It looks way better now, but still carries a strong hint of Eldar.

My 2 cents. You shouldn't expect to only get good criticism on a forum.

Defeatmyarmy wrote:This is the most converting Im doing. Its 100% GW so hate all you want or try to build your own.

What parts did you use? I want to build something similar for my brother (will probably open up the "arms" more than the standard eldar tank) and would love a list...

I'm sorry but what on earth is going on with the putty? I originally thought that you'd done some kind of relief of Necron symbols on the putty but expanding the pictures I see I was mistaken. If you're not going to take people's constructive criticism into consideration and just go "haters gonna hate". Then why bother posting at all on a public forum?

We are not personally attacking you. Converting miniatures is an art form in itself and art has certain... aesthetics that go with it, sometimes people dislike them or feel they are inappropriate to go with an existing appearance of the other models. This mini crosses both on a Venn diagram of that IMO. Eldar tanks have a very distinctive silhouette and plonking Necron weapons on it feels like a cop out to many people, esp. considering this is a somewhat powerful unit and it gives the impression you've not put lot of effort in in an attempt to get this unit on table ASAP.

Sorry.

imo the best bet for a Doom Scythe would be a model based on the Cylon Raider from Battlestar Galactica (the 2003 series of course). Yes they're not identical, but they do look similar and it's more distinct then the Eldar Falcon.

Marzillius wrote:
I don't say it because I want to make someone feel bad. I should have phrased it differently, but it doesn't change that it looks like a freaking Eldar tank. Just incredibly out of place.

In order to improve it, the hull needs to be cut up and swing them a bit to each side, opening a bigger hole in the middle. Thats pretty much it. In the later images most gems are gone, the crevices are covered and the guns are actually Necron. It looks way better now, but still carries a strong hint of Eldar.

My 2 cents. You shouldn't expect to only get good criticism on a forum.

I agree, but my point was that there is a difference between constructive criticism & being rude. The first post was the latter, the above quoted is the former. If you genuinely want someone to heed what you're saying it's better to say it in a way that offers ideas rather than just ripping it because of course he's gonna flip you the bird so to speak, over that.

Just my .02.

I'm actually considering doing something similar to this idea myself but I'll probably shave off all the eldar-esque blips first & flatten & shorten the hull a bit to get rid of the troop bay & put the engines there instead. Lastly, chop off the wings & flip them upside down to put the ribbed look on top. Then I'll put the guns in place of the intakes. That's just my brainstorming.

Harriticus wrote:imo the best bet for a Doom Scythe would be a model based on the Cylon Raider from Battlestar Galactica (the 2003 series of course). Yes they're not identical, but they do look similar and it's more distinct then the Eldar Falcon.

Yeah, but similar to the Stargate flyer thingy (that I can't think of the name of right now) I haven't found a model large enough to count that isn't over a hundred bucks. For that, I'll wait till the 2nd wave.

OP: If you wish to see a more accurate example of a Doom Scythe that is in the works, take a look here- http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?t=18293.

See how the shape differs dramatically from yours and does not look like anything currently in 40k.

I see all the hate for your Doom Scythe, but personally i hate your wraith even more. It's just a tomb king stuck in a base. Use the necron art in the codex as inspiration.

fire4effekt wrote:I see all the hate for your Doom Scythe, but personally i hate your wraith even more. It's just a tomb king stuck in a base. Use the necron art in the codex as inspiration.

I think "hate" is too strong a word there. The problem with them is the heads. They look a bit derpy due to the angle they're at. If the heads were rotated back so they're parallel with the base then that'll fix their biggest problem IMO.

As others have mentioned the Doom Scythe has a completely different shape then a Falcon so using a Falcon as a base 100% doesnt work. If you look at the art the only way you could make one is with plasticard as nothing in the GW range is even close to it. Personally I would just use your Falcon mock up to proxy for games and just wait till the release in Feb (early next year is when wave two is rumored to get here).

The tomb stalkers REALLY don't work (and I think they look considerably worse then the Falcon). Even though Necrons are supposed to be "Tomb Kings in Space!" that doesn't mean using actual Tomb King models will work since they are for a "sword a shield" type game and the Tomb Stalkers are more "Matrix-y". Why not use the Immortals as a base for the upper torsos and maybe add in some CC weapons for their hands. You can always use a tube or something for the their lower torsos (plasticard). The biggest thing to focus on is your posing of the models as the ones you have posted make either no sense (the first picture) or make the guy look like they have lost their balance and are taking a header instead of attacking (the last picture).

I understand where you are going with both conversions but the biggest thing would be start with what's out for the Necron range (as most of it is plastic) and move on from there that way it at least FEELS like it is part of your army and not a place holder.

I LOVE it, accept for the little prism thing in the front/hole thing...


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ghoulio wrote:The tomb stalkers REALLY don't work (and I think they look considerably worse then the Falcon). Even though Necrons are supposed to be "Tomb Kings in Space!" that doesn't mean using actual Tomb King models will work since they are for a "sword a shield" type game and the Tomb Stalkers are more "Matrix-y". Why not use the Immortals as a base for the upper torsos and maybe add in some CC weapons for their hands. You can always use a tube or something for the their lower torsos (plasticard). The biggest thing to focus on is your posing of the models as the ones you have posted make either no sense (the first picture) or make the guy look like they have lost their balance and are taking a header instead of attacking (the last picture).

I understand where you are going with both conversions but the biggest thing would be start with what's out for the Necron range (as most of it is plastic) and move on from there that way it at least FEELS like it is part of your army and not a place holder.

Well, your going to see these models used in tournaments, legally and thats all I care about. So they REALLY work for me.

Defeatmyarmy wrote:

ghoulio wrote:The tomb stalkers REALLY don't work (and I think they look considerably worse then the Falcon). Even though Necrons are supposed to be "Tomb Kings in Space!" that doesn't mean using actual Tomb King models will work since they are for a "sword a shield" type game and the Tomb Stalkers are more "Matrix-y". Why not use the Immortals as a base for the upper torsos and maybe add in some CC weapons for their hands. You can always use a tube or something for the their lower torsos (plasticard). The biggest thing to focus on is your posing of the models as the ones you have posted make either no sense (the first picture) or make the guy look like they have lost their balance and are taking a header instead of attacking (the last picture).

I understand where you are going with both conversions but the biggest thing would be start with what's out for the Necron range (as most of it is plastic) and move on from there that way it at least FEELS like it is part of your army and not a place holder.

Well, your going to see these models used in tournaments, legally and thats all I care about. So they REALLY work for me.

I hope not.

Defeatmyarmy: Don't get salty because someone says your model isn't done well enough. I'd rather have someone tell me something looks like crap when it honestly does than pat me on the back and tell me "Great work!" for something that clearly isn't great work. Don't bother posting for a critique if your just fishing for compliments, which I hope you aren't

As far as others posts: Really, gonna tell someone you "hate" their work outright? Don't be a tool and try to offer some constructive criticism. Or don't bother posting.


The internet is a vast world of wonderful and different opinions!

Warpseer wrote:Defeatmyarmy: Don't get salty because someone says your model isn't done well enough. I'd rather have someone tell me something looks like crap when it honestly does than pat me on the back and tell me "Great work!" for something that clearly isn't great work. Don't bother posting for a critique if your just fishing for compliments, which I hope you aren't

As far as others posts: Really, gonna tell someone you "hate" their work outright? Don't be a tool and try to offer some constructive criticism. Or don't bother posting.


The internet is a vast world of wonderful and different opinions!

I did offer constructive critisism. I said look at the pics in his codex for inspiration. I honestly don't think he did. or hes using a pdf version. And yes, i HATE the wraith models.