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Made in gb
Fresh-Faced New User




Warrington, UK

Note: I was asked to open this Transaction Report at the request of RiTides. I am not a regular user of Dakka Dakka but thought this matter sufficiently serious to bring it to your attention.

Please consider this report a warning based on this user's behaviour over several years on a number of other forums. I'd urge anyone dealing with this user to read the following post compiled by Eric over on BarterTown: http://www.bartertown.com/trading/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=158855

For my own part I am owed £28 - or rather the miniatures I bought with that money - for a trade conducted with him on TWF, and I am far from alone. He has a long and storied history of back outs and outright fraud. I urge anyone who has paid this user any money through PayPal and has yet to receive their goods to file a dispute with them immediately.


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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel





Portland

Amen to this. I've added my info to the Bartertown thread.



My painted armies (40k, WM/H, Malifaux, Sedition Wars) 
   
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control





New Jersey, USA

Begging your pardon, Freylis, but what is "TWF"? Is that another site like BT and Dakka?

"This One Is Rurouni... Once Again, This One Will Drift..."
"Rushing towards danger without hesitation isn't recklessness, but bravery... And avoiding danger when there's a chance for victory isn't precaution, but cowardice..."
"I can only go forward."

Warhammer 40,000
: 90 - 14 - 17
Apocalypse: 7 - 2 - 3
Tournaments: 7 - 7 - 1

Warhammer Fantasy
High Elves: 9 - 1 - 0 
   
Made in au
Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought




Realm of Hobby

Im owed 3 x Sgt Centurius or the £200 i paid including shipping.

The.fraud was only brought to my attention once Mods on Dakka brought it to my attention.

David Andersen failed to provide Tracking after 2 weeks of being paid and was uncontactable.

PayPal dispute claim has been lodged.

Please keep informing the greater community of this person's true nature.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/19 00:13:43


MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)

Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is
But we're not that bad... are we?
 
   
Made in gb
Been Around the Block




TWF is The warhammer forum.
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Stone Golem





Beyond the World's Edge Mountains

Just a reminder to:

1) Only post in this thread if you have relevant information to add (thanks to all for adhering to this so far)

2) Refrain from any insults that would break the normal rules of the site (i.e. "be polite" and just stick to the facts)

As with any Transaction Report, any inflammatory or off-topic posts will be deleted.

Thanks!

   
Made in au
Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought




Realm of Hobby

RiTides wrote:Just a reminder to:

1) Only post in this thread if you have relevant information to add (thanks to all for adhering to this so far)

2) Refrain from any insults that would break the normal rules of the site (i.e. "be polite" and just stick to the facts)

As with any Transaction Report, any inflammatory or off-topic posts will be deleted.

Thanks!


Apologies mate. Blood was up at time of posting.

Hopefully PayPal buyer protection comes through...

MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)

Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is
But we're not that bad... are we?
 
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Stone Golem





Beyond the World's Edge Mountains

Not a problem- keep us updated on the progress with Paypal! There should be enough evidence out there that this should be an easy decision for them (you might consider referencing the Bartertown thread in your claim).


   
Made in gb
[DCM]
aka BP






Reading, Berks

Thanks for posting this as I've been wondering where the Guard stuff was that I bought off him. I will be raising a claim with paypal post-haste.

He ceased communicating as soon as the paypal payments went through and hasn't removed the ordered items from the swap shop thread, which should have been a bit of a hint.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/19 22:32:44


   
Made in us
[MOD]
Stone Golem





Beyond the World's Edge Mountains

Frankenberry just posted his dealings with Godsized here. I've locked the thread and asked for him to update over here, so affected parties can work together on this and the information can be all in one place.


   
Made in us
Rough Rider with Boomstick





Delaware, USA

Reposting from my thread.

Note: I checked the USPS site, it's been delivered. I'm officially screwed. It took him almost a week to go to the office and pick it up.

Also note, I'm not sure what to do now. Contacting Royal Mail appears to be impossible, aside from an email form which I filled out stating the issue. Although, I don't hold much hope.

Don't suppose anyone is willing to go break the guy's leg's for me?





This report is concerning the user: Godsized
Total elapsed time since last contact: Two weeks (close to three)


My location: USA
Godsized location: UK

Over the past 1-2 months I've had a Swap Shop post with various Warmahordes items for trade/sale.

On Jan. 28th 2012, I received a pm from Godsized concerning the Legion army I had posted, along with the remaining Circle of Orboros figures. In return, Godsized offered a large collection of 40k items, some FW kits, some assembled but mostly everything was NOS.

On Jan. 29th 2012, we came to an agreement over what would be traded (we decided to go retail price for retail price) which amounted to $550 worth of Warmahordes (all of the Legion listed along with the remaining Circle) for: Zhufor, 2 x CSM squads, Khorne Termies, Baneblade, 1 Cadian Command Squad, 1 x Cadian squad, Winged Tyrant, 1 x FW Ripper Swarm, 2 x Warriors,1 x Carnifex which also amounted close to $550.

Over the course of the next week, Godsized and I attempted to work out a shipping date that worked for him (he was dealing with a flu-ridden family). We finally agreed on Feb. 5th to ship on the following day, Feb. 6, a Monday.

That was the last communication I'd received from Godsized. I've attempted multiple email contacts and PMs. Unfortunately I didn't get his phone number (a mistake I will not repeat in the future). I understand that life has it's way of destroying well-laid plans, believe me. But two weeks without so much as a burp?

Using my customs form I was able to track it through the USPS site and the last update was Feb. 15th with the note - Payment of charges - Item being held, addressee being notified. Which raises the argument that he may not have time to ship/pick up the items. But without any communication, I can't make that call.

I dislike having to do this, but if it results in some sort of communication from this person or even a resolution, then it's worth it.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/02/20 20:58:16


Grot 6: "I would have dipped my Space Marine in the mashed potatoes. "
Reecius (in a batrep video): "Lady luck just put the mushroom tip right on my face. She's a hermaphrodite y'know."
Blacksails: "My name is Streetlamp LeMoose, and I am a god."
hotsauceman1: *when asked how the Emperor saved Horus* "He used Mind bullets."
Ian Sturrock: "I demand strict historical and ballistic accuracy in my games of millennia-old demonic space soldier wizards who live in another dimension, fighting against Lovecraftian-Egyptian teleporting undead space robots."
Balthoran 22nd Mechanized (5000 points) 
   
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Rough Rider with Boomstick





Delaware, USA

Update:

I've been trying to figure out a way to contact the local authorities...and as I'm currently in the US, I'm having a heck of a time finding the local PD in his area.

Any Dakkanauts across the pond able to give me a hand?

Grot 6: "I would have dipped my Space Marine in the mashed potatoes. "
Reecius (in a batrep video): "Lady luck just put the mushroom tip right on my face. She's a hermaphrodite y'know."
Blacksails: "My name is Streetlamp LeMoose, and I am a god."
hotsauceman1: *when asked how the Emperor saved Horus* "He used Mind bullets."
Ian Sturrock: "I demand strict historical and ballistic accuracy in my games of millennia-old demonic space soldier wizards who live in another dimension, fighting against Lovecraftian-Egyptian teleporting undead space robots."
Balthoran 22nd Mechanized (5000 points) 
   
Made in us
Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw





St. Louis, MO

I'd like to ask that, if anyone comes up with any NEW information, please PM it to me here or on Bartertown.

I dug up a lot of that information on my own, but I'm always looking and willing to add more (and give you credit, if you ask).

Thanks.

Eric

Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 
   
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Been Around the Block




Frankenberry this is the number for gateshead police for outside england callers

(+44) 1661 872 555
   
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Rough Rider with Boomstick





Delaware, USA

Well, I contacted the Gateshead office, which were super helpful in getting me in contact with Durham Trading Standards department, a local office that handles trades (presumably) across the world.

They're closed now of course, being a Government firm and all. Will give'em a call tomorrow and see what they can do.

Note: When speaking with the officer from Gateshead she mentioned that it wasn't a felony because there was no money involved. The PD apparently weren't going to get involved because of that, which actually makes sense.

Grot 6: "I would have dipped my Space Marine in the mashed potatoes. "
Reecius (in a batrep video): "Lady luck just put the mushroom tip right on my face. She's a hermaphrodite y'know."
Blacksails: "My name is Streetlamp LeMoose, and I am a god."
hotsauceman1: *when asked how the Emperor saved Horus* "He used Mind bullets."
Ian Sturrock: "I demand strict historical and ballistic accuracy in my games of millennia-old demonic space soldier wizards who live in another dimension, fighting against Lovecraftian-Egyptian teleporting undead space robots."
Balthoran 22nd Mechanized (5000 points) 
   
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Using Inks and Washes






Frankenberry wrote:Well, I contacted the Gateshead office, which were super helpful in getting me in contact with Durham Trading Standards department, a local office that handles trades (presumably) across the world.

They're closed now of course, being a Government firm and all. Will give'em a call tomorrow and see what they can do.

Note: When speaking with the officer from Gateshead she mentioned that it wasn't a felony because there was no money involved. The PD apparently weren't going to get involved because of that, which actually makes sense.


I would respectfully disagree with the officer in Gateshead . They just don't want to get involved for such small amounts and fobbed you off. It is still fraud and theft because there is monetary value attached to the articles - the UK, not matter how far down hill it is going still has rules against it.

2014 will be the year of zero GW purchases. Kneadite instead of GS, no paints or models. 2014 will be the year I finally make the move to military models and away from miniature games. 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




fullheadofhair wrote:
Frankenberry wrote:Well, I contacted the Gateshead office, which were super helpful in getting me in contact with Durham Trading Standards department, a local office that handles trades (presumably) across the world.

They're closed now of course, being a Government firm and all. Will give'em a call tomorrow and see what they can do.

Note: When speaking with the officer from Gateshead she mentioned that it wasn't a felony because there was no money involved. The PD apparently weren't going to get involved because of that, which actually makes sense.


I would respectfully disagree with the officer in Gateshead . They just don't want to get involved for such small amounts and fobbed you off. It is still fraud and theft because there is monetary value attached to the articles - the UK, not matter how far down hill it is going still has rules against it.


The officer is correct. These matters are civil cases in the UK.
Its a bit like you guys turning up to speak to Judge Judy and asking her for your cash or goods or a cash equivalent for your goods.
They may on occasion take a statement from the accused but that will be the limit of their involement.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/22 09:45:39


 
   
Made in eu
Deadshot Weapon Moderati





I have been trying to help over on TWF regarding this guy (I'm known as Starscream there).

I live in Gateshead, i actually live close to the Police station, if the people affected could collate all the info I'd be willing to call by.

I think it might be frowned upon if I was to swing by his place and Mod edit: please don't post any inference of violence on Dakka, joking or not (I do have his name, address and telephone number though incase he is reading this).

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/24 17:08:45


fieldable:
WIP:

sleazy builds a Reaver! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/207555.page 
   
Made in us
Rough Rider with Boomstick





Delaware, USA

I didn't figure the PD would actually get involved, not for something that didn't involve actual money. And to be honest, I'm surprised I didn't get laughed at and hung up on.

Sleazy, what information do you need? I can compile the items I sent, their value, and his mailing information if you like and PM it to you if that'd help.

Grot 6: "I would have dipped my Space Marine in the mashed potatoes. "
Reecius (in a batrep video): "Lady luck just put the mushroom tip right on my face. She's a hermaphrodite y'know."
Blacksails: "My name is Streetlamp LeMoose, and I am a god."
hotsauceman1: *when asked how the Emperor saved Horus* "He used Mind bullets."
Ian Sturrock: "I demand strict historical and ballistic accuracy in my games of millennia-old demonic space soldier wizards who live in another dimension, fighting against Lovecraftian-Egyptian teleporting undead space robots."
Balthoran 22nd Mechanized (5000 points) 
   
Made in gb
Deadshot Weapon Moderati





ideally if I could get that for everyone he's ripped off I would call by and speak to them. He is still around n the area and at the end of the day he is stealing money.

fieldable:
WIP:

sleazy builds a Reaver! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/207555.page 
   
Made in us
Rough Rider with Boomstick





Delaware, USA

Contacted the local "Better Trades" department and told them the situation. They referred me back to the police. So as far as the official way of fixing thing is concerned, I'm done.

Anyone have any luck through Paypal?

Grot 6: "I would have dipped my Space Marine in the mashed potatoes. "
Reecius (in a batrep video): "Lady luck just put the mushroom tip right on my face. She's a hermaphrodite y'know."
Blacksails: "My name is Streetlamp LeMoose, and I am a god."
hotsauceman1: *when asked how the Emperor saved Horus* "He used Mind bullets."
Ian Sturrock: "I demand strict historical and ballistic accuracy in my games of millennia-old demonic space soldier wizards who live in another dimension, fighting against Lovecraftian-Egyptian teleporting undead space robots."
Balthoran 22nd Mechanized (5000 points) 
   
Made in us
Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw





St. Louis, MO

Norseman, over on Bartertown, did a great job of compiling things and getting the UK police involved when "The_Trader" was scamming people a while ago.
Someone might consider contacting him and asking him for advice and suggestions on how he got the police willing to be involved.


Eric

Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 
   
Made in us
[MOD]
Stone Golem





Beyond the World's Edge Mountains

Having sleazy stop by to bring the evidence to the police in-person may not be a bad idea, if someone is willing to compile those affected (who are scattered across several sites now: TWF, Bartertown, and here).

Sleazy, I did have to edit your above post- any inference of violence, joking or not, is against Dakka's rules.

Also, as sleazy pointed out, he has Godsized's contact information, so if anyone needs it contacting sleazy would be a good idea.

   
Made in us
Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw





St. Louis, MO

Also, as sleazy pointed out, he has Godsized's contact information, so if anyone needs it contacting sleazy would be a good idea.


Or just look at the BTown link. It's public info, so we don't mind posting it publicly.

Eric

Black Fiend wrote: Okay all the ChapterHouse Nazis to the right!! All the GW apologists to the far left. LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE !!!
The Green Git wrote: I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.
Polonius wrote: You have to love when the most clearly biased person in the room is claiming to be objective.
Greebynog wrote:Us brits have a sense of fair play and propriety that you colonial savages can only dream of.
Stelek wrote: I know you're afraid. I want you to be. Because you should be. I've got the humiliation wagon all set up for you to take a ride back to suck city.
Quote: LunaHound--- Why do people hate unpainted models? I mean is it lacking the realism to what we fantasize the plastic soldier men to be?
I just can't stand it when people have fun the wrong way. - Chongara
I do believe that the GW "moneysheep" is a dying breed, despite their bleats to the contrary. - AesSedai
You are a thief and a predator of the wargaming community, and i'll be damned if anyone says differently ever again on my watch in these forums. -MajorTom11 
   
Made in us
Scuttling Genestealer



Greenville, NC

If there would be no problem with me doing it, I would be happy to compile all of the information for Sleazy to bring to the police. I will comb through this thread and search out the TWF and BT threads, but I'll need as many people as possible to PM me what personal information they have for him (as it can't be posted in the thread).

Also, if each person scammed could compile an exact record of all of their correspondence (quotes, not summaries, if possible... preferably time/date stamped) with Godsized and send it to me, I will compile a master record for Sleazy.

Would this work for everyone?
   
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Been Around the Block




Hi guys

Just a quick note that a lot of TWF users have had refunds issued from paypal.
   
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[DCM]
aka BP






Reading, Berks

Paypal is still working it's way through the claims process for me, but it's only been 7 days since I opened the case so it's early days yet.

A few days ago he decided to supply Paypal with some tracking information; sadly it made no sense to man or monkey as he'd put a number in the company name and nothing in the tracking code field.

Still no replies to PMs or emails and no comments from him on the paypal claim either.

[update - 28/feb/2012]

I just got an email from Paypal saying they found in my favour and have managed to get the money back.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/28 17:42:13


   
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Rough Rider with Boomstick





Delaware, USA

Any update from Sleazy for anyone? I tried the local PD again, got a guy that said there wasn't much they could do without proof.

I offered to email him correspondence indicating a trade of goods along with mailing information. He didn't seem too interested.

Grot 6: "I would have dipped my Space Marine in the mashed potatoes. "
Reecius (in a batrep video): "Lady luck just put the mushroom tip right on my face. She's a hermaphrodite y'know."
Blacksails: "My name is Streetlamp LeMoose, and I am a god."
hotsauceman1: *when asked how the Emperor saved Horus* "He used Mind bullets."
Ian Sturrock: "I demand strict historical and ballistic accuracy in my games of millennia-old demonic space soldier wizards who live in another dimension, fighting against Lovecraftian-Egyptian teleporting undead space robots."
Balthoran 22nd Mechanized (5000 points) 
   
Made in gb
[DCM]
aka BP






Reading, Berks

Sorry to hear you're not getting much luck with the local police :/

   
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Rifleman Grey Knight Venerable Dreadnought




Realm of Hobby

Hi all,

PayPal just ruled in my favour and refunded my monies.

Now I can begin paying others.

Im confident PayPal can assist those of you still with open claims.

MikZor wrote:
We can't help that american D&D is pretty much daily life for us (Aussies)

Walking to shops, "i'll take a short cut through this bush", random encounter! Lizard with no legs.....
I kid Since i avoid bushlands that is
But we're not that bad... are we?
 
   
 
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