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2014/04/09 06:45:00
Subject: Re:Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
Filed off the mould lines (no knives, people! Take it slow with a file, I have lost count of the the amount of restic + knife injuries I've heard about online) without too much trouble and found assembly of the SW restic to be much easier than Mantic's restic due to the lower part count per mini.. wasn't having to deal with any 8-piece monstrosities, most are 2-piece with no integrals to snip off.
I'd be interested in another SWKS, but only if it comes with lots of Firebrand stuff.
They might need to go all-out and switch to hard plastic to be considered by a lot of people. Of course with board games, whatever Mantic is using is probably best for mass production, but I don't think SW buyers will go for it.
I don't really see what the problem is with just releasing stuff in metal at a decent price rather than buggering about with resin/restic. If you want something to feel premium, a nice selection of well-cast single-piece metals is one way to go about it. If you're careful with the sculpt design no assembly required, mould lines are a breeze, detail is better than restic or hard plastic, not as expensive as resin. Tin prices aren't what they used to be.
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2014/04/09 08:42:38
Subject: Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
IMHO they should have gone the kingdom death route. Hard plastic low model count with stretch goals being expanded encounters rather than just here's just more jank.
We’ve already previewed one of the new Strain – the Thraex; today we’re going to look at a few of the other Strain miniatures that will feature in the upcoming Sedition Wars games.
The Retairus is the phase two version or the Thraex, and still shows some vague features of the original human host. As with it’s larger Brute brood-line brother, this creature is evolved for close quarters fighting and door breaking. The miniature is small compared to the Thraex, but still larger and far more powerful than any human.
Next we’re going to look at a new brood-line – the Siren. This evolutionary form of the Strain are adept at combat in confined environments – using their snake like bodies to fit in the tight corridors and conduits of deep space facilities.
The Naga is the phase two exo-form, still showing distinct signs of the original host, while the body warps and changes into the desired pattern.
The phase three version of the Siren Brood-line is the Medusa, this large and terrifying creature towers over the Naga and has a range of deadly attacks at it’s disposal. The miniature stands 55mm tall and the long sinuous form makes it an imposing piece.
As with the other previews, these will be available as resin castings at Salute, and in the Studio McVey store shortly after that.
2014/04/09 12:43:28
Subject: Re:Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
We’ve already previewed one of the new Strain – the Thraex; today we’re going to look at a few of the other Strain miniatures that will feature in the upcoming Sedition Wars games.
The Retairus is the phase two version or the Thraex, and still shows some vague features of the original human host. As with it’s larger Brute brood-line brother, this creature is evolved for close quarters fighting and door breaking. The miniature is small compared to the Thraex, but still larger and far more powerful than any human.http://www.risusiverse.com/
Next we’re going to look at a new brood-line – the Siren. This evolutionary form of the Strain are adept at combat in confined environments – using their snake like bodies to fit in the tight corridors and conduits of deep space facilities.
The Naga is the phase two exo-form, still showing distinct signs of the original host, while the body warps and changes into the desired pattern.
The phase three version of the Siren Brood-line is the Medusa, this large and terrifying creature towers over the Naga and has a range of deadly attacks at it’s disposal. The miniature stands 55mm tall and the long sinuous form makes it an imposing piece.
As with the other previews, these will be available as resin castings at Salute, and in the Studio McVey store shortly after that.
I like how the Naga's breasts get larger the less human it becomes.
Honestly this game looked awesome two-three years ago at Gencon, and was a lot of fun at the demo table. Now I'm not even sure if I want to even buy the base game, much less these new extras.
The Retairus looks like a step in the right direction. If the skull and hand are scaled appropriately for a human miniature, those would be examples of how you do a space zombie right - a mixture of alien biomass and surviving human anatomy.
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2014/04/09 13:25:13
Subject: Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
Yeah, the armor plate breasts look a little silly particularly since it's supposed to be looking Less human in that form. And does it still have an "hourglass" shape when in that monster form? Head scratching!
Still, other than that it is quite cool imo
2014/04/09 15:31:07
Subject: Re:Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
Here is some of the stuff that was state of the art 35 years ago. I had all these Minifigs miniatures, and more, and thought myself lucky.
The big complaint now is that you need to use a file not a knife to get rid of the moulding lines on some of the dozens of different ranges of SF figures on the market.
The only model I really love is the Ashar, which I'll consider buying in resin. It somehow manages to blend good design with an effective pose, a gun it looks able to support, reasonable proportions, and, strangely enough, no incongruous boobs stuck to its chest.
More like this, please.
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2014/04/09 15:35:00
Subject: Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
I am really loving the paintjob on all of these strain pieces. I don't like the Medusa, the proportions look cartoony to me (large head, tiny waist, big hands, etc.)
However, the only thing I keep thinking is "imagine the horror of cleaning mold lines off all those segmented plates!"
2014/04/09 15:47:59
Subject: Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
And Phaedrus - the bendy arm probalbly won't be a a lot of people's tastes but it should be easy to convert back to normal. There's a fluff/rules reason for the arm.
This is a character we’ve met before, but she’s seen here in her fully evolved form.
Brilliant, beautiful, and utterly merciless Dr. Hexen Phaedrus was a specialist in nano-technology and neural interface systems at the Alabaster Science facility. She had advanced knowledge of how the Strain nano-phage worked, and a desire to see it contained and controlled. After reverse engineering the nano-phage, she took the radical decision to inoculate herself, but not without first building a back door safeguard into the nano-tech she developed. Now she retains full control of her evolution, and of the exo-forms around her – bending them to her own merciless ambitions.
Phaedrus will be available at Salute, along with the symbiotic Chirurge manifestation.
2014/04/09 17:05:39
Subject: Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
Yeah I picked up the Chirurge last year on the basis that a restic version (in AoS) would be a nightmare to clean up. Guess I will need to get the new Phaedrus in resin too although that arm looks like it could be highly prone to snapping. Ironically in restic it might be more durable! Decisions, decisions..
I'm confused: the blurb states that the Siren models shown are level 2 and 3, was there a level 1 shown before?
As an aside, while DaveC's reposting these images and blurbs is much appreciated, why isn't McVey putting this out through kickstarter updates? That's a channel to over 4k people, all of which were interested in the property (at one point) to plunk down some cash. Has the relationship between C'MoN and McVey really dropped to such a level that C'MoN won't relay these kinds of updates?
I don't mean that as a snide remark, I genuinely am curious as there seems (emphasis on the superficial) that the relationship between creator and publisher here.
By level 2 and 3 you mean Phase 2 and Phase 3 Exo-forms in the same way as a Quasimodo is a phase 2 that can evolve into a phase 3 Brimstone, a Naga is a phase 2 Siren that can evolve into a phase 3 Siren - the Medusa and a phase 2 Brute - the Retarius can evolve into a phase 3 brute - the Thraex.
You might also notice from the newer cards that Stalkers can evolve into phase 3 Siren Broods and Quasimodos can evolve into phase 3 Titan Broods.
Level 1s are always necro-forms, the Revenants, Bone crabs and some new ones - they can't evolve at all.
Phaedrus is a Phase 4 last I heard.
As for the kickstarter updates I guess because it's a separate product from the first kickstarter and it's still a long way from release yet these are just initial resin previews to get the ball rolling as Salute is up this weekend and it's local for Studio McVey. Remember these are limited number resin runs produced by SMV themselves there will only be a few (relatively speaking) to go around so Salute attendees and those that vist the new Studio McVey website regularly and keep up to date there will get first call. CMoN are not involved in the sale of the resins anyway. I've been told there are no issues between the publisher and creator.
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2014/04/09 20:23:16
Subject: Re:Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
Kilkrazy wrote: Frankly we are spoiled nowadays.
Here is some of the stuff that was state of the art 35 years ago. I had all these Minifigs miniatures, and more, and thought myself lucky.
The big complaint now is that you need to use a file not a knife to get rid of the moulding lines on some of the dozens of different ranges of SF figures on the market.
I had a ton of the generic fantasy Minifigs, and the not-LotR ranges. Still, time marches on and our expectations change. May as well talk about how spoiled we are with cars instead of horses, or washing machines instead of a wash board down at the river, or running hot water instead of using the kettle over the hearth, or butter/margarine instead of having to use Lard, like mum had to during the war. Electricity instead of gas lamps. The internet instead of mail order pages in the back of Dragon Magazine. And so on.
Today we are going to be looking at three new Firebrand previews.
The first character shown here is Gemma, AKA Big Sister. Gemma is a Kaliyama class clone, grown from servitor vats specifically for gladiatorial entertainment. She has four arms, the upper, designed for strength and power, carry a heavy auto-shotgun. Her lower arms, built for speed and dexterity each bear Scather industrial cutters. She’s shown on a 50mm base – so she’s quite imposing.
Next is a brand new version of a familiar character – Vokker Dargu.
Later today, we’ll be looking at another Firebrand character, and what is probably my favourite of all the new miniatures – The Preacher.
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2014/04/10 12:23:41
Subject: Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
This is my favourite of all the new miniatures shown so far – Uriah Severn, one of the mysterious Preachers, who are follow with religious zeal by the faithful of the Firebrand rebellion.
Only one clue so far exists as to the Preachers’ origins. In the Magellan Expanse, a Vanguard patrol picked up an obsolete data-relay broadcast from the surface of a desolate planet. Upon closer inspection, the flight recorder of a wrecked, antiquated ship was discovered. The ship was identified as a long-lost prototype exploration shuttle belonging to Uriah Severn, a test pilot dispatched from the Edge to explore the uncharted regions between galaxies. Of Severn himself, or his crew, there was no sign; but since that discovery, his name has been spoken by Firebrand captives as the most divine prophet in the Edge. Where he went during his three decades in hyperspace is unknown. And what he brought back—if indeed, the Preacher called Severn is still the same man—is a source of great concern to SolCon…
2014/04/10 13:23:38
Subject: Sedition Wars News and Rumours - New Minis preview - Bounty Dogs - Alien Races!
I like all the new sculpts a lot, even the guy with no neck looks fine to me. I'm glad to see them finally doing a lot of new minis. I'd really like to see them drop the board game or at least come out with alternate skirmish rules. I tried it with the board, but I guess I just like tape measures better.