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 Solar_lion wrote:
Whole heartily agree with Ygg's.. I like the more practical look rather than some of the GW painted gaudy color armor.

Looks ok on some things ( like Moonpies Emperors fools ) and other marines. Your scheme makes them look professional & serious rather than pompous.

Says the guy who plays Lamenters.

Space Marines have alway been different animals.. They have their own livery based on their traditions and uniqueness. Other imperial troops are more conformed to imperial standards. As one would expect the great mass 's needing ways easier to control and supply.

Thou I don't always like some of the marine color schemes I understand their attachment to different schemes.. Rainbow Warriors anyone?

I also understand using the different shemes. I personally dislike the more brazen Imperial schemes. Each to his own.

Thanks so much guys.

im glad the model came across as a bit more "real". i was looking to do something along those lines so im stoked to see it came through! honeslty thoguh, a lot of credit goes to the model. the pose (at least on this guy) looks very natural to me and the scale is quite good.

sadly, wont get to paint today but i am really enjoying painting this model. i will definitely be painting up the rest of the squad. i was just going to load them with the lasguns at this stage because i dont know if i will play them as such, but i think the lasguns look really good and add to that "real" feel a bit.

@Ygg - mate, RL takes me away all the time! thank you for commenting. despite your kindness, i am nowhere near your colour or OSL skills. have bookmarked your tutorial though - thanks!

@ Solar and Chem - i think that's one of the great things about 40k - the grim seriousness of the guard, the craziness of the marines. i read a quote in one of the BL books which went: "The uniforms of the Imperial Guard are camouflaged in order to protect their wearers by hiding them from sight.
The principle is that what the enemy cannot see he cannot kill. This is not the way of the Adeptus Astartes. A Space Marine’s armour is bright with heraldry that proclaims his devotion to his Chapter and the beloved Emperor of Mankind. Our principle is that what the enemy can see, he will soon learn to fear…." To me that the seriousness and the insansity works side by side is magic. in any case, after painting IF so much (the original canaries) i thought i should try my hand at something a bit more subtle...

also, wanted to ask....i have this issue where half the threads im subscribed to dont send me updates anymore. this is embarrassing when folks who are kind enough to comment on my work update and i dont even know. anyone else out there having this issue and if so, got any fixes?

Lol yeah, play the humble guy

Totally agree with you on the SM livery part : I think it's part of the larger-than-life nature of the Adeptus Astartes ! Their appearance is supposed to inspire awe & dread in their opponent's hearts, so why would they camouflage ? In addition, it is not unknown for them to get camouflage patterns when the fighting conditions REALLY require stealth and subtlety... It kinda makes sense to me.

As for the issue with thread updates, what kind of update are you talking about ?
When I log in on dakka, I just go to "My subscribed threads", then open as many tabs in my browser as there are threads with "First Unread" button...
But maybe you rely on automatic mails for that ?

Got name-dropped by Solar, so I thought I would drop a note. Looking good on the work. Can't wait to see the finished yellow knight. That's my favorite color for knights. The scion is really rad too. I'm getting almost tired of OSL, but this is working for me.

The smoothness of your yellow is hardcore. I've read your technique and must take a lot of patience. Maybe someday I'll get an airbrush. You guys seem to love them.

Yeah, I do what Ygg does. I stopped bothering with email replies (since they can crush my inbox on a busy day) and just check my Subscribed Threads tab at the top.

If that is way too busy, there's another dropdown tab at the bottom labeled My Own Threads, and that is the best way to keep track of your own stuff if it is getting lost in a lot of other updated threads.

And I agree about the bright colors on the marines guys. I think it is awwwwesome. Your Imperial Fists, Solar's Lamenters, and moonpie's ridiculous pink and yellow chaps are all excellent work. Was just pokin' a little fun.

Great idea Ygg, will check things that way.

Thanks very much Moonpie. i cant recommend an airbrush strongly enough. especially for yellow....i remember using a brush to get the base coats and...shudder....

Moon.. I drop your name everywhere, I'm counting on it someday paying off big time....not let's see some more EF's

CC.. mo worries, Your Marines ( when you painted marines.)
Were fabulous. Have to admit your balance of crispness and weather are perfect. I also have to say you have a great balance again for overall color. I particulary like your chaplain.. I'd take critque from you anyday!

Sans... you'll have to get a game in with them. they are too cool not to see some action..

I still paint marines! I'm just not building armies anymore. I don't think I'll ever stop enjoying them in that respect, even if I don't roll the dice with em' anymore.

Maybe a killteam or two. That's always fun.

Thanks for the kind words! (NowbacktoSans'blog).

@solar - maybe with this new edition I can just take one squad

Well, busy weekend so not much time to paint. Did some small work on the knight getting him ready for decals and washes. Thought I would go for some brass sections in all the metal to break it up a bit. The knight head model is outstanding...I can't help but spend some time on it even though it will get covered . No washes are in yet, just block colours sorry.

Hey San, how'd you get that thin white line along the side of those plates? (kind of in the middle of the airbrushed area... sorry, it's in a tough spot to explain).

I think i know the one you mean mate

It's done with a fine brush (0 or 2/0) and very thin codex followed by thin fortress. Load only a small amount of paint, just a bit more than a drybrush. Then, I drew it on with very very light strokes, heading away from the front of the part.

It was I would say midway between regular wet painting and dry brushing.

That's it really, other than my usual stand by of having a clean brush nearby to clean up the inevitable screw ups there are probably better ways to get this effect, but I hope it helps !

Well, TBH I hadn't noticed until Gits pointed it out... But it's a very nice & smooth effect !

Good luck on that one

 San76 wrote:
@solar - maybe with this new edition I can just take one squad

Well. next time your in the US state of Wisconson, look us up for a game!

for sure! likewise, next time your in Perth AUS....

 San76 wrote:
for sure! likewise, next time your in Perth AUS....

...flee in terror from all the flora and fauna that is trying to murder you?

Hahah... True enough. It's the drop bears that you've really got to watch out for

Well, some progress on the knight - started in on the decals. I've got to say, these are probably the best decals I've seen from GW - very little empty space around the design, which is good. Personally, I usually struggle with these things and this time is no exception.

Still I persevered and got roughly half of them on tonight. Once they are all on. Then it's another coat of varnish and onto washes and weathering! Speaking of which...I'm going to try and use a lot of oils for the washes and the weathering; do you think he needs some chipping as well?

I heard if you put Vegemite behind your ears it'll keep the drop bears away.

The decals look great. I also struggle with the things as well, but that looks splendid. I really like the fist logo with the laurels, it really ties it with the rest of the Imperial Fists, (though yeah, I know they're not part of the Marines and all that fluff stuff).

I imagine that depending on loadout, these guys would have most of the chipping lower on the model, and the big flat surfaces on top would just have your typical weathering. The legs and stuff would be chipped from crashing through terrain and small arms fire, as not too many things are going to be in a good position to hit the top of the thing since it is so tall.

Whatever happens, its gonna look geeewd.

And worse if you go into the water!

Looks good . The only distraction is the white background on the carapace eagle. Thou that is just me nitpicking.
Looking forward to the next phase.

 Solar_lion wrote:
Looks good . The only distraction is the white background on the carapace eagle. Thou that is just me nitpicking.

Agreed on the white outline of the upper hawk decal, looks a bit out of place... But nitpicking indeed !

As for the weathering.... Chipping is mandatory !

Cheers guys. Well, the verdict is in...chipping plus oils. I'm kinda glad - this whole project is about pushing myself so no point backing off

As for the white trim on the emblem , I totally know what you mean. There really isn't a need for it, the designers went for it on purpose. Maybe once it's under the oil wash it won't stand out as much.

Thanks for posting guys, really helps me along

Love IPs and you are doing a great job, subscribed.

 Imperial Templari wrote:
Love IPs and you are doing a great job, subscribed.

Imperial Pists ?

Pies ?

Pigs ?

hope everyone is having a great weekend.

well, i've followed Chem's advice and chipped the paint on the lower parts of the Knight. i also added pretty heavy chipping to the chainsword and some light chipping to the main gun as i figure they would see some hard use. as always, after spending so long getting the yellow smooth its a heart breaker to chip the paint, but i think it was a good idea - there is no way this guy is going to be super shiny. i think this has also had the unexpected side effect of keeping the upper parts brighter, drawing the eyes up.

I've also chipped the shield a little. i know its up quite high..but it just felt a bit necessary.. mostly because it was looking a bit plain without anything around the edge. in retrospect, i probably should have drawn some scroll work or something around the edges. ahh well. I have also given him a name - the Retribution. my payback for my friends pack of Long Fangs and their missile launchers!

at this stage the chipping looks a bit more like mud than i might like. but hopefully once i do the highlights etc (couple of steps down the road) they will be sharpen up.

anyways, next up....washes. im going to try and use oils for this to try and get a different kinda finish. also, oils are fantastic for streaks etc. fingers crossed.

Well, chipping starts nicely ! I definitely understand the fact that you only weather the lower parts, on a realistic base, but it still bothers me (a bit) to have the legs all worn while the upper plates are bright & clean... Maybe the "oil" weathering will make up for that fact ?

Awesome work as usual, he'll be a stunning piece once done !

thanks Ygg...thats the plan...the upper panels will still get weathering..just oils and powders rather than the chipping....

fingers crossed...

I love the Scion scheme, the subtle OSL effect is a nice touch and the pose is badass Sorry its a bit late just checked this blog out now. Subbed!

LDP

That's a nice-looking Knight. After I've gotten the Guard up to snuff, and gotten an airbrush and finished my Imperial Fists, I'm looking forward to adding a Knight to my Imperial forces also. To go with the Baneblade I've always wanted. I hope it looks half as good as your's does.

Thanks guys, you are very kind.

Well, I have finally moved onto washes for the knight. I am trying to do oils for all my washes, not sure how that will go for the non-armour plate parts but it's a challenge.

In any case - the first nights effort! I really think the oil adds something to the chipping to make it look more realistic.

Just love the weathering effects. Really helps to sell them as authentic and NOT overdone... which is a trap I always fall into.