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So I have changed to Blood angels for sixth edition but haven't really have been having that much success with them. I am running a mixed DoA army list but been loosing pretty bad so far or winning just slightly.
What I am running at the moment is:
Libby with JP, Shield and Unleash rage
Mephiston
2xSanguinary priest JP, LC
3xAssault Squad, 2 squads with melta, 1 with flamer.
5man Scout squad with sniper rifles, ML and camo cloaks
3xDevastator Squad

I was thinking in changing to something like this:
+++ No Name (1835pts) +++ +++ 1850pt Blood Angels 5th Edition Roster, Primary Detachment, Space Marines 5th Ed (2008), Allied Detachment +++ + HQ + (250pts) * Mephiston, Lord of Death (250pts) + Elites + (90pts) * Sanguinary Priests (90pts) * Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack, Lightning Claw + Troops + (460pts) * Assault Squad (230pts) 9x Assault Marines, Meltagun, Meltagun, Retain Jump Packs * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon * Assault Squad (230pts) 9x Assault Marines, Meltagun, Meltagun, Retain Jump Packs * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon + Fast Attack + (150pts) * Hyperious Air defence battery 3x Hyperious Plataforms 1x Hyperious Command Plataform + Heavy Support + (260pts) * Devestator Squad (130pts) 4x Devestator Marine, 4x Missile Launcher * Veteran Sergeant, Bolter, Chainsword * Devestator Squad (130pts) 4x Devestator Marine, 4x Missile Launcher * Veteran Sergeant, Bolter, Chainsword + Fortification + * Aegis Defence line (50pts) Space Marines 5th Ed (2008) (Allied Detachment) Selections: + HQ + (100pts) * Librarian Boltgun, Null Zone, Power Armour, 2nd Power + Elites + (320pts) * Terminator Assault Squad (And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics) * Terminator -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield * Terminator -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield * Terminator -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield * Terminator -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield * Terminator -> Lightning Claws * Terminator -> Lightning Claws * Terminator -> Lightning Claws * Terminator Sergeant -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield + Troops + (205pts) * Tactical Squad (205pts) Plasma Cannon, Plasma Gun, 9x Space Marine * Space Marine Sergeant, Boltgun, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon
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Let me know what you think. Specially in terms of defence against flyers which I haven't really played that much against. I am also 15pts shorter at the moment

You say mixed DoA list. What ratio? What are you playing against?

In my experience, DoA is best used to pop vehicles you really don't want on the field. Most of the time it ends up being a sacrifice move. You sac a unit to pop a vehicle then leave their jewels swinging in the wind as everything unloads on them.

With your composition I would suggest running an all jump army with the devastators pounding things from the back field.

Also, where's the Death Company? With the changes to 6th edition there's very few reasons [u[not[/u] to take them.

I personally don't care for running special characters, with the exception of Cap'n Tycho. I look at it like "Man, I could spend that extra 100-150 points on something much more feasible." That's just my $.02 on that subject.

In my area Assault Terminators just aren't as good as they were in 5th edition. I watched a 30 TH and SS Terminator army get buried under a mountain of dice from a shooty Ork army.

You say you haven't played against flyers that much... does that mean you avoid the players with flyers? Or there's not many people who run them? If the latter and there's like 1-2 people who run flyers I wouldn't pay too much attention until it becomes a commonality.

 Mordechai wrote:
You say mixed DoA list. What ratio? What are you playing against?

So far I have played against Orks, Dark Angels and CSM lists. But this is a national tournament do no way to know who I will face.

 Mordechai wrote:

In my experience, DoA is best used to pop vehicles you really don't want on the field. Most of the time it ends up being a sacrifice move. You sac a unit to pop a vehicle then leave their jewels swinging in the wind as everything unloads on them.

The idea with my army is to leave the tactical,scouts and devastator on the back claiming objectives. While the two Assault squads with priest jump forward. But if there are land raiders or some heavy vehicles I need to take on the back field deep strike the meltas on the Assault squads.

 Mordechai wrote:

Also, where's the Death Company? With the changes to 6th edition there's very few reasons [u[not[/u] to take them.

The problem with DC is I haven't found a way to include them on this list. What would you run?

 Mordechai wrote:

I personally don't care for running special characters, with the exception of Cap'n Tycho. I look at it like "Man, I could spend that extra 100-150 points on something much more feasible." That's just my $.02 on that subject.

I like Mephiston just because I can use it as a counter attack unit to avoid my Assault squads being pinned in combat for long

 Mordechai wrote:

In my area Assault Terminators just aren't as good as they were in 5th edition. I watched a 30 TH and SS Terminator army get buried under a mountain of dice from a shooty Ork army.

I haven't really played them on 6th yet but see no reason why they would be worst on 6th. Rather the opposite actually. Why do you think they are worst?

 Mordechai wrote:

You say you haven't played against flyers that much... does that mean you avoid the players with flyers? Or there's not many people who run them? If the latter and there's like 1-2 people who run flyers I wouldn't pay too much attention until it becomes a commonality.

Most of the local flyers don't run flyers or run just one flyer which I can simply ignore and focus on what is on the table. But I expect some flyer spam on the tournament special for Necrons

I apologize I completely didn't see the subject line past "BA 1850pts Caledonian Uprising...". So forget my first comment

If there are Land Raiders it wouldn't matter what side you hit them on. Your devastators could concentrate fire on it/them and have a better chance of hulling it.

I usually run a 9 man DC with 4 Power Lances, Bolters, Jump Packs and Lemartes. It is expensive don't get me wrong and that's at 2000 pts but I've had, on more than 1 occasion, them chew through 2-3 10 man Marine squads with 3-4 left at the end of it all. That's enough for them to be auto includes in my army lists.

Like I said in my area they don't seem to last long enough to make their points back. You can only make so many invul saves before they start dropping. Burying them in dice usually does the trick. But, that's my area.

Jump pack DC get expensive quick! maybe as I have three PF dudes modeled though...

For the hyperios I wouldnt take the command platform, just run 4 of them, also are you running the FW models? as they will be particular about what models you are using.

Thank you so far for all the commands. I have been thinking and have to agree with dropping the command platform. I can take instead a Quad gun on the aegis which provides more firepower and ability to shoot at two different flyers. That way I would be running instead 3 plataforms. Another idea is drop the hyperions to 2, upgrade the libby to TA take one less terminator and fit a 5man scout squad with ML and camo cloaks. More bodies on the table and a good idea to camp on a backfield objective

I have used the hyperios before and I think 3 is a good number, str 8 is slightly better then quad gun but the ap3 helps a lot against ground targets and they do create a no go area for enemy vehicles (mainly imo because people do not know what they do) being twin linked with t6 and 2 wounds is pretty darn good for 35pts.

I will be going Cali as well with a few pals, no idea on what I am taking but will be either BA or vanilla marines

Been thinkering a bit with the list to rey and add a scout squad in the mix but it is really hard to find the points. Here what I have at the moment

+++ No Name (1850pts) +++ +++ 1850pt Blood Angels 5th Edition Roster, Primary Detachment, Space Marines 5th Ed (2008), Allied Detachment +++ + HQ + (250pts) * Mephiston, Lord of Death (250pts) + Elites + (90pts) * Sanguinary Priests (90pts) * Power Armour, Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack, Lightning Claw + Troops + (460pts) * Assault Squad (230pts) 9x Assault Marines, Meltagun, Meltagun, Retain Jump Packs * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon * Assault Squad (230pts) 9x Assault Marines, Meltagun, Meltagun, Retain Jump Packs * Veteran Sergeant Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon + Fast Attack + (105pts) * Hyperious Air defence battery (105pts) 3x Hyperious Plataforms + Heavy Support + (260pts) * Devestator Squad (130pts) 4x Devestator Marine, 4x Missile Launcher * Veteran Sergeant, Bolter, Chainsword * Devestator Squad (130pts) 4x Devestator Marine, 4x Missile Launcher * Veteran Sergeant, Bolter, Chainsword + Fortification + * Aegis Defence line + Quad gun (100pts) Space Marines 5th Ed (2008) (Allied Detachment) Selections: + HQ + (100pts) * Librarian Boltgun, Null Zone, Gate, Power Armour + Elites + (320pts) * Terminator Assault Squad (And They Shall Know no Fear, Combat Squads, Combat Tactics) * Terminator -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield * Terminator -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield * Terminator -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield * Terminator -> Lightning Claws * Terminator -> Lightning Claws * Terminator -> Lightning Claws * Terminator Sergeant -> Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield + Troops + (205pts) * Tactical Squad (205pts) Plasma Cannon, Plasma Gun, 9x Space Marine * Space Marine Sergeant, Boltgun, Melta Bombs, Power Weapon
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I am a bit worried that I only have three troops choices. But the only solution I can think is dropping the Mephiston and Taking a librarian with Jump pack instead for the BA HQ to reroll the shooting attacks from the Devastator squads. And use the the remaining 125 for a 5man scout squad and upgrade the allies librarian to terminator armour.

Fast Attack + (105pts)
* Hyperious Air defence battery (105pts)
3x Hyperious Plataforms

I'd eventually drop this and add a unit of Sniper Scouts with missile launcher.

But that way you loose the ability to deal with flyers, no?

 wuestenfux wrote:

Fast Attack + (105pts)
* Hyperious Air defence battery (105pts)
3x Hyperious Plataforms

I'd eventually drop this and add a unit of Sniper Scouts with missile launcher.

For the cost of those, they are so much better then sniper scouts, yes they arent scoring (except in scougring) but they have interceptor with twin linked so they can shoot at anything coming in from reserves, skyfire and twin linked so are pretty good against flyers and ap3 str 8 so pretty darn good against marines, 3 of them have 6 wounds at T6, 3 TL shots, so much better then the same of devi's.

I would drop the devi squad for another scoring unit though.

MarkyMark wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

Fast Attack + (105pts)
* Hyperious Air defence battery (105pts)
3x Hyperious Plataforms

I'd eventually drop this and add a unit of Sniper Scouts with missile launcher.

For the cost of those, they are so much better then sniper scouts, yes they arent scoring (except in scougring) but they have interceptor with twin linked so they can shoot at anything coming in from reserves, skyfire and twin linked so are pretty good against flyers and ap3 str 8 so pretty darn good against marines, 3 of them have 6 wounds at T6, 3 TL shots, so much better then the same of devi's.

I would drop the devi squad for another scoring unit though.

That might be a good idea but it means I loose the ability to do blasts which is useful against hordes. On the other they are more resilient than devs which is my main problem with them.

Ok then, drop a devi squad for thunderfire in your allies, they are so much better then frags, S5 ignore cover really does hordes over, s6 blasts are also very good against guard eldar DE cultists etc,

Or better yet, drop both devi squads for a storm raven with AC,typhoon or MM and hurricane bolters, 12inch range it kicks out 12 s4 TL shots, 4 s6 rending TL shots and either two templates at S4 or 2 missiles at s8 or of course the MM. They are evil against hordes