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loota boy wrote:

dsteingass wrote:You don't have to read the whole thing in one go, flipping through is half the fun

I mostly just look at the pictures.

are we still talking about the munda rules here?

Viktor von Domm wrote:

loota boy wrote:

dsteingass wrote:You don't have to read the whole thing in one go, flipping through is half the fun

I mostly just look at the pictures.

are we still talking about the munda rules here?

Exactly.

hehe^^

loota boy wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:

loota boy wrote:

dsteingass wrote:You don't have to read the whole thing in one go, flipping through is half the fun

I mostly just look at the pictures.

are we still talking about the munda rules here?

Exactly.

Hmm Innuendo? or simple Pyramid... We may never know...

Some mysteries are best left to the great unknown of the Warp.

Got a huge amount of work done last night on my -=]_=- project. I know... 'pictures or it didn't happen'. Good news is I've been doing a WIP photo series so once I submit my piece I'll be showing a 'step-by-step' process from start to finish, including my bad ideas and my mistakes. It should be much fun. If all goes well I should be finished with this before Saturday, which means the first game it gets used will be with other LoER members! Briancj and Galorn are coming up for a game on the 28th. Really looking forward to it .

To rivet or to not rivet... that most surely is the question!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote: If all goes well I should be finished with this before Saturday, which means the first game it gets used will be with other LoER members! Briancj and Galorn are coming up for a game on the 28th. Really looking forward to it .

Battle report or it didn't happen

@ Wh40kPicasso- Verily.

@ Hyenajoe- I'll write up a battle report if I win.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:@ Wh40kPicasso- Verily.

@ Hyenajoe- I'll write up a battle report if I win.

Indeed!

Also, you say if. which in my opinion is a lack of confidence! I believe it should be ;

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote: Edited by Wh40kpicasso @ Hyenajoe- I'll write up a battle report after I win.

Not a lack of confidence, being realistic. Briancj and Galorn are brutal circuit players that would throw a (kitten / puppy... take your favorite) into a wood chipper right in front of you if it meant they would gain a tactical advantage. I've heard rumors that Briancj eats raw meat as a sacrifice to the unknown Gods of Chaos before playing. Yes, I know he plays IG. I'm thinking it's just a front to cover the massive Chaos Cult he is part of.

It's going to be a brutal fight.

wish i could throw my lot in. ;(

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:@ Wh40kPicasso- Verily.

@ Hyenajoe- I'll write up a battle report if I win.

Otherwise I will...

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Not a lack of confidence, being realistic. Briancj and Galorn are brutal circuit players that would throw a (kitten / puppy... take your favorite) into a wood chipper right in front of you if it meant they would gain a tactical advantage. I've heard rumors that Briancj eats raw meat as a sacrifice to the unknown Gods of Chaos before playing. Yes, I know he plays IG. I'm thinking it's just a front to cover the massive Chaos Cult he is part of.

It's going to be a brutal fight.

Thanks I've never been called a "brutal circuit player" before...

Wh40kPicasso wrote:wish i could throw my lot in. ;(

and you can... It's just a much longer road trip.

only slightly

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Not a lack of confidence, being realistic. Briancj and Galorn are brutal circuit players that would throw a (kitten / puppy... take your favorite) into a wood chipper right in front of you if it meant they would gain a tactical advantage. I've heard rumors that Briancj eats raw meat as a sacrifice to the unknown Gods of Chaos before playing. Yes, I know he plays IG. I'm thinking it's just a front to cover the massive Chaos Cult he is part of.

It's going to be a brutal fight.

“Supreme excellence consists of breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

lol... you guys make me feel so envious... be sure to drink a beer on all those that can´t take part in that slaughter... looking forward to such a cool report... maybe you do them all...and we get to read reports form three perspectives...

Being that we're playing 6th Ed I'm going to be playing a more 'vanilla' force that is troop-heavy. I haven't decided if I want to go w/ a straight Plague Marine force or if I want to have some of my Berzerker buddies show up for the fun as well.

I'll definateely be running a couple Dreadnoughts. Yeah, the whole Fire Frenzy thing can be annoying if the Multi-Melta is right next to my Vindicator or Rhino filled with Plague Marines, but it's a chance I'm willing to take.

I'm likely going to take a Daemon Price w/ Wings plus a full 10-man Terminator squad that will Deep Strike. My Plague Marine units all have Icons so they will drop where they are most needed. I've been converting my models to Power Mauls so that extra +2 ST will take out some of the harder targets and my Lord w/ a Daemon Weapon should rage through the softer targets.

Or... this entire post could be intentional misinformation. Hmm. HMMM.

In any case it will be quite awesome.

Or... this entire post could be intentional misinformation. Hmm. HMMM.

LOL....

Tunnel entrance looks awesome, Skalk! Great weathering, and I love the choice of colours. How on earth did you do those stairs at the backside? They add so much to it as a terrain piece!

@ Scarper: Magic + Rivets + Skulls + Wires = 40k terrain? NecroMunda terrain?

I should really, you know, think about what to bring up to Vermont. I have no idea. I mean, NONE. Do I even have a fully painted army at any real points level? Guess those Valks are going to get their trial by fire...

Use the Valks as allies for whatever else you've got?

@ Scarper- Thanks! I really enjoyed this piece. Made a few mistakes but I'm still learning w/ the new techniques I'm using. The ladder is a pre-fab I took from a model train set, used to have a bunch of them and now I have no idea where they are, likely lost them years ago, only have 1 more left.

@ Wh40kPicasso- Yes, exactly.

@ Briancj- Gah! I completely forgot about Flyers. I need to look up shooty rules to see what I have to bring them down.

@ dsteingass- Sure, take sides. I see how it is.



Meant to get some work done last night but was completely beat when I got home and fell asleep at my desk. So no updates. On call for work this weekend so I'll likely get some work done on the project and if I finish it I'll post pics here.

Looking good!

Barring a major Derp, or RL intervention I should be getting at least some of the stuff you sent me molded tomorrow.

Thanks for having Brian and myself up. It was a LONG drive but absolutely worth it.

Im loving your necromunda terrain skalk! after seeing yours, daves, and bruticus', im finaly pushed into starting necromunda terrain! ( oh and i must say i am incredibly jealous by all those awsome bulkheads you have! )

@ HAZZER- Thanks man! Hoping you like the update.

@ Galorn- Thank you for the awesome mold!



Yes it was quite the awesome time. And thanks for the Marine Swap!

@ Rogue Wolves- That is great news! You certainly have all the inspiration and support you'll ever need. Make sure you tell me when you get that project started.



Ok, so here's the update I've been talking about for the last couple weeks. A while back I posted about the LoER Terrain Contest and that I was going to do a project. Below is the entire process, including the bad ideas and the mistakes. I learned a lot from doing this. If I were studying how to build terrain, this was my mid-term exam. I put a lot of work into this (some of it completely unnecessary as you'll see later) and I'm posting everything from start to finish (including mistakes and bad ideas) because it was a huge process for me and to also save the ideas that have value but didn't make it to the final piece on this particular project.

When I saw the theme of the contest (lids) I decided to finally try an idea I had for making Necromunda terrain from paint can lids. I started my project on July 7th.



...and immediately had an idea:





I have no idea what I was thinking when that happened, but it didn't take me long to realize that I had just rebuilt the paint can. Tore that apart, fiddled around with a few ideas, and realized this was a much better idea:





Based black:



Starting to figure out how I'm going to make this work. Used drywall mesh again because I like how it comes out, and was very careful when laying it down. You really have to look for the the lines where it connects / overlaps. Also experimenting with plasticard and seeing what it would / would not allow for flexibility. Also started actual fabrication (ramp / etc) for the first time in a long time. Off to a good start!





RIVETS!!!





I finally figured out how to make rivets that didn't drive me mad (1/16 hole punch and cereal box cardboard) and placing them was a lot easier once I figured out how to line them up before the glue set (I glue the rivets to the support brace and then glue the brace to the hull of the defense turret). I'll be doing this a lot more in the future.









Final build! Base coat, picture of deatil on the support, paint job, almost done! Yes, this is where I thought I was almost done. I was simply going to hang a chain across the 2nd opening, and I like the Shadow Gray look for everything I do that's Imperial-based. And this scheme matched my Bastion and the two small bunker buildings I made back in October '11 so I felt the family just got a little bigger and it was a worth addition. I was trying to figure out the final little bitz when I took a look at Kvlt and he shook his helmed head ruefully at me as if saying 'so much potential, so little discipline, so little attention to detail, may as well add this to the list of failed projects'.

Ouch.

So I dug deeper, looking for that scheme that would take the feeling of applied failure away and push my limits. Apply the things I've learned and dig up long-lost skills that atrophied over time. Don't 'settle', CREATE!

Took a long hard look at what I had and decided the idea was sound and the execution so far was worthwhile, the problem was in the details. Most glaring of them all was I wasn't careful when laying down the mesh for the ramp and it just looked weird. So up came the mesh inside the turret. I also added hazard stripes inside the ramp, and I think that was a huge success.



Tried to weather / shade the sides but failed miserably.





However, weathering inside the turret was going quite well. I used the sponge rust method here, and it blended some of the graph left behind by the mesh tape and motivated me to look for better ways to apply weathering to everything else.



The interior looked a bit bland to me, and suddenly I thought I'd try adding an Aquila to the floor. I got things set up to go, sat there a long time staring at it, and finally accepted the fact that this was above my skill level and I was too intimidated to 'try' and fail on a piece that I was so close to finishing. The idea remains but I didn't try it here.



I needed depth and detail. Started adding rust to the outside. Experimented a bit with outlining as well. This is a technique I'll work on a lot more because I can see the application having a huge impact on what I do w/ modeling overall. This particular bit didn't completely survive but it's still there on the final piece a little. It was during this process that I was wishing I had done the salt thing earlier. I will try that on the next one I build, but at this point it was too late to ruin the work I'd already done. if I'd only known how much it was going to change from here I would have done it at this point. Another lesson learned.







The 2nd opening in the defense wall was bugging me. I was an unintentional result from rushing the project early on, and now it needed to be managed. I was going to put a chain across it w/ a caution sign, but it looked stupid when i did the mock-up. Then I thought about a permanent fixture like a gun, but that was equally lame. Then ktbb22 told me to make stairs. There;s an inside joke w/ this now. Sorry, can't share it because it's horribly offensive, and I'm only mentioning it so she knows I remember. Ha.







I was going to make the stairs out of wood but didn't like the look so I made them out of plastic instead. It turned out to be way easier than the wood, more symmetrical, and looked a lot better.





To finish the stairs I needed a base to measure from, and had been using a random terrain base I hadn't used for anything else yet. I even went as far as flocking and painting it:



...but when I tried to mount the piece I realized it simply would not fit properly, it was just that much too small where it just barely didn't fit. So it's off to Home Depot to pick up some hardboard (I needed some anyway, this was just the motivation I needed to actually go because I hate that part of VT, strip mall madness and the mass of humanity... ugh) and made a base specifically to fit my project:





Next photos are of the finished piece and were submitted for the contest:

















I considered putting add'l detail to it, but decided to leave it as it so I can use separate bits to add the detail and keep the versatility. CSM model painted by ktbb22:





I'm adding this pic simply because it looks awesome and I think she did a great job w/ this miniature. It's her first paint job EVER. I have a feeling if she keeps at it she'll surpass my skill in no time.



And a couple more "action shots".





So there it is, my 'top secret' finally on display. One of the cooler things about this this piece is genuinely scratch built. The only 'pre-fab' I used was plastic I-beams and a jewelry necklace. Everything else was cut from plasticard, wood, and cardboard. That's a huge change for me. I've been relying heavily on pre-cast items to achieve the look I've been going for. I'm glad to have stepped out of that comfort zone and I'm quite pleased w/ the results.

I had the idea to make platforms w/ paint can lids a long time ago and this project was the perfect opportunity to try it out. This project is my "intermediate terrain mid-term exam" so to speak. I employed almost every new technique I've learned in the last few months. This is the new direction for all of my terrain- to look distinctly Imperial, heavily used, and showing signs of neglect / disrepair. I'm going for an overall "abandoned Imperial outpost" look, or possibly still occupied but severely undermanned / contested. The need for maintenance is overridden by the fight to stay alive.

I'm planning on building two more of these and place them on the board w/ similar stats as an Aegis Defense Line. It will make a great objective (or place to put an objective) and will be some of the more contested piece of real estate on the board because it will be difficult to remove whoever is already in there as it has only 2 entry points and I'm counting the rest as Difficult Terrain (meaning up and over the side). The main platform holds up to 21 models (w/ 20mm round bases) w/ 5 more on the ramp. That's a huge blob, and all w/ 4+ cover save (2+ gone to ground).

Regardless of what happens w/ the contest, I've already 'won'. I feel great about this piece, know what mistakes I can avoid for next time, and it's really got me kick-started to finish up some other projects using similar techniques (as well as go back to others and tie them in w/ the overall look I'm going for).

Now that this is over, I can get back to work on other things. The "on deck" shelf is a bit backed up right now.


Thanks for reading, C&C always welcomed!

Excellent work!

I judge that this piece of terrain is ADA-complaint. A sure-fire winner.

Awesome!

It's both very imaginative, well built, and your paintjob is absolutely great (the brown weathering you're using gives a realisitc rust aspect )

A whole themed table of this quality is something I'd love to see!

Good stuff, really nice work and possibly your best yet. I like the steps, they show great attention to detail, and it's surprisingly rare to have ramps like that as well.

It looks like you could place another bit of scenery in the middle (like that tunnel entrance maybe) if you ever wanted to.