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I really like the Gladiator, I hadn't seen the design before all this.

Looks good but its a little to pricey for my liking.

Something worth mentioning from other places that have reviewed the gencon demos

All the games were being run with 2 starter sets, and a least some of those running the demos said that the game was less fun with only a single set so people my need to think of picking up a couple of starters (or equivalent extras)

The particular demo I played was two starters worth of Capitol ships, but with a single starter worth of fighters (4 x-wing, 6 TIE) spread across the battle.

The only bummer was that the guys playing the Rebs were taking absolutely FOREVER to do anything, and just about ignoring the guy running the demo at the same time, so everything took friggin' forever, so we only got about a little over two turns in after almost an HOUR.

Luckily I was wasting them and getting them a bit frustrated because I was using (and in tandem with the guy next to me) all the special rules available of the ships and TIE fighters while they just rolled dice half-heartedly and broke ships (immediately) with their ham-fists.

Because I had to stand through a demo while I waited my turn to play, I was actually showing off facets of the game to people who asked me while I was demoing, and it seemed the guy doing the demo thought it was pretty funny that I was the only one STILL not making him repeat himself and not being slow during my turn.

I'm really keen to pick this up.

Been thinking of getting into X-wing for a while now but never got around to it, now they have a capital ships I might pick up armada.

I love Star Destroyers!

Shame about the price + postage for here in Australia. Even Miniature Markets Postage cost is too high at $58

If anyone find a retailer with good price and postage let me know

Probably TheCombatCompany when it comes down to it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Probably TheCombatCompany when it comes down to it.

I'll be sure to look them up

 Yak9UT wrote:
Shame about the price + postage for here in Australia. Even Miniature Markets Postage cost is too high at $58

If anyone find a retailer with good price and postage let me know

Combat Company - X-Wing starter $40
Milsims - X-Wing starter $48
Games Empire - X-Wing starter $47

Note there are often stock issues for X-Wing, it's in pretty high demand!

 Yonan wrote:

 Yak9UT wrote:
Shame about the price + postage for here in Australia. Even Miniature Markets Postage cost is too high at $58

If anyone find a retailer with good price and postage let me know

Combat Company - X-Wing starter $40
Milsims - X-Wing starter $48
Games Empire - X-Wing starter $47

Note there are often stock issues for X-Wing, it's in pretty high demand!

I was referring to the Armada starter pack when it came to postage price. The starter pack must be quite heavy or something.

I'm just hoping I can find a online store with a reasonable postage prices.

Yeah it was more just a frame of reference for what to expect from different online Aussie shops. iirc Combat Company has free shipping on orders over $100 so with a little padding of your order (there's always stuff we want right? ; p) it shouldn't be a problem.

Yonan, just letting you know that if they follow the format of needing hangar bays for star fighters then the A-Wing will be required to be within a hanger bay as they do not carry a hyper drive. Their the glorified formula 1 racer for the rebels, its two repeating blasters strapped to a pair of oversized engines. It was said they were massive gas hogs somewhere and were only deployed for major conflicts or when sorely needed in defense due to resource limitations.

 BunkerBob wrote:
Yonan, just letting you know that if they follow the format of needing hangar bays for star fighters then the A-Wing will be required to be within a hanger bay as they do not carry a hyper drive.

Umm... yeah they do.

^^ <3

I've been playing Star Wars Empire at War, Sins of a Galactic Empire (SoaSE mod) and an FTL Star Was (with Captain edition) mod lately, to get into the spirit of things. Want to track down something like a Homeworld Star Wars mod next.

Well I got that half wrong, mabe I thought they had no hyper drive because of the limited hyperspace jump points. Ah well old useless information I guess.

 Yonan wrote:
^^ <3

I've been playing Star Wars Empire at War, Sins of a Galactic Empire (SoaSE mod) and an FTL Star Was (with Captain edition) mod lately, to get into the spirit of things. Want to track down something like a Homeworld Star Wars mod next.

I'm currently waiting on the Sins mod Star Wars: Ascendancy which is rumored to be released near the end of this month.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.moddb.com%2Fmods%2Fstar-wars-ascendancy&ei=Jcv2U43dIsWfugSU4IGICg&usg=AFQjCNFol8oOx6dn2LcSJDlCc8E2gwp9Qw&sig2=6aT5R7TxGYmHKi18l_YdZQ&bvm=bv.73373277,d.c2E

Its based on the events after the battle of Endor around the time of the Thrawn trilogy

I didn't like the fact that Sins of a Galactic Empire had the clone wars as well. Should have just focused on the original trilogy I reckon.

Seek out a copy of Star Wars: Rebellion (or Supremacy for our friends in the UK). If you can get over the interface it's a really fun game.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Seek out a copy of Star Wars: Rebellion (or Supremacy for our friends in the UK). If you can get over the interface it's a really fun game.

Yeah I had that game on CD, was a fantastic game. It's a shame it isn't sold digitally on sites like GOG. I lost my copy years ago and I kick myself to this day for loosing it

The Sins mods are the only alternative at this point.

 Yak9UT wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Seek out a copy of Star Wars: Rebellion (or Supremacy for our friends in the UK). If you can get over the interface it's a really fun game.

Yeah I had that game on CD, was a fantastic game. It's a shame it isn't sold digitally on sites like GOG. I lost my copy years ago and I kick myself to this day for loosing it

The Sins mods are the only alternative at this point.

It's... findable. However, as a 16-bit application it won't run on most PCs nowadays, though this isn't insurmountable, it just requires Microsoft's 'XP Mode' (which is free and legal), or just make your own virtual machine and install a copy of XP onto it if available.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Seek out a copy of Star Wars: Rebellion (or Supremacy for our friends in the UK). If you can get over the interface it's a really fun game.

That was one of my favorites. Took forever to play. Blowing up gak with the Death Star was fun, but by the time you built it, you were already winning the game.




Edit: I still have my copy.

Edit 2: Sorry for the Off-Topic. Don't Ban me. HBMC started it.

What a game! I really liked the fact that if you overused the Death Star the core planets would rebel, so it didn't make it unbalanced. I hope Armada is just as fun.

Are we putting news about the other FFG game, Imperial Assault into this thread? I've noticed some pre-orders have started appearing for that game now

 Riquende wrote:

It's... findable. However, as a 16-bit application it won't run on most PCs nowadays, though this isn't insurmountable, it just requires Microsoft's 'XP Mode' (which is free and legal), or just make your own virtual machine and install a copy of XP onto it if available.

It can't possibly be any harder than trying to get Chaos Gate to work!

 Riquende wrote:

 Yak9UT wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Seek out a copy of Star Wars: Rebellion (or Supremacy for our friends in the UK). If you can get over the interface it's a really fun game.

Yeah I had that game on CD, was a fantastic game. It's a shame it isn't sold digitally on sites like GOG. I lost my copy years ago and I kick myself to this day for loosing it

The Sins mods are the only alternative at this point.

It's... findable. However, as a 16-bit application it won't run on most PCs nowadays, though this isn't insurmountable, it just requires Microsoft's 'XP Mode' (which is free and legal), or just make your own virtual machine and install a copy of XP onto it if available.

Huzzah!

Discount Games Store put these up for preorder for $69 - 31% off until the 17th. Also Imperial Assault for the same and the Wave 6 X-Wing stuff.

Finger is on a $600 order for all 3 since I've been itching to get into X-Wing for a while. -_- Probably going to start with 3 Armada starters, doubt those ships will go astray regardless of what's released after.

So am I the only one who thinks the rules are terrible?

 Yonan wrote:
Discount Games Store put these up for preorder for $69 - 31% off until the 17th. Also Imperial Assault for the same and the Wave 6 X-Wing stuff.
Finger is on a $600 order for all 3 since I've been itching to get into X-Wing for a while. -_- Probably going to start with 3 Armada starters, doubt those ships will go astray regardless of what's released after.

When are these actually released? Isn't Imperial Assault next year sometime?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks the rules are terrible?

Rules for which game? And how have you managed to read/get hold of them?

Yeah pretty sure they're both Q1 2015. Pretty soon compared to kickstarters... (I can rationalise anything!)

Fair enough. I'll buy some when they're released. 5-8 months ahead is a little much for me for a non-KS. And DGS's service is pretty uneven these days.

I've heard a couple reports of poor book packaging that can cause damage, that's about it. Everything I've ordered has been fast and fine, what have you heard?

 Azazelx wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks the rules are terrible?

Rules for which game? And how have you managed to read/get hold of them?

i watched the demo.

X-wing, while being a wonderful game, is already clunky enough on the actual tabletop, despite looking good on paper, with ships, tokens, templates and people's hands all getting in each other's way and getting nudged or knocked over all the time.

This will be worse.

The bases are huge and the rules encourage everything getting into one huge clump in the middle of the table. Meaningful maneuvering will not exist after the initial approach because bases will physically obstruct each other - and players will be expected to get their hands in the middle of it somehow to turn the shield dials, too. The movement template is long and doesn't look collapsible, so you'll be knocking stuff over with the extra 8" you don't need when measuring a 2" move.

Firestorm Armada is already bad enough for overlapping with its oversized models, and that game actually encourages ships to stay more than 8" away from each other (possibly the only really clever thing about that game altogether!) and here we have all ships being at their most effective when at extremely close range - not much more than the length of one ship base!

So there you have it, from a purely physical standpoint this game will be impossible to play except on Vassal.

Then there's all its other problems, like lacking any consistent mechanics. The game looks like 6 different games bolted together. It uses one range ruler for ship movement, a different one for starfighter movement, and a third one for weapons fire. It uses dice to attack but tokens to defend. Arcs and dials for shields but a single hit point pool and damage cards for hull. I could go on. It looks like something that belongs in the 80s as far as design philosophy goes. And what for? So they can add 4kg of cardboard clutter to the 3 nice plastic models and charge $100 for it.

I say this as someone who plays X-wing every week and loves it.

 Yonan wrote:
I've heard a couple reports of poor book packaging that can cause damage, that's about it. Everything I've ordered has been fast and fine, what have you heard?

Haven't heard anything, but I've experienced several quite large orders shoved into baggies with no packaging/padding, resulting in broken models and sprues, crushed boxes and broken stuff inside where stuff wasn't reboxed. Also some stuff arriving late, or not at all until I chase it up with them - so receiving the stuff months late. (like a Baneblade, plus several other kits). And book damage as well. They used to send things in proper boxes and nothing would get damaged/crushed/mangled, now it's always shoved into these unpadded baggies where your order can easily get damaged. I seem to get much better service from Dan than Holly for some reason.

Damn, that's far worse than I've had. Retail boxes being dinged up but the sprues being fine is all I've had go wrong. Oh, something wasn't included twice and had to be sent separately, but they do that no fuss. They're still the cheapest legit 40k we can get I think and I can put up with a lot for cheap ; p

We can get FFG stuff at decent prices here but the cheapest I've seen Armada for here is $90 at Batal. They also have the X-Wing starter for $36, which is $27 from DGS. $44 shipping means bulk orders that way though.