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 kronk wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:

monkeypuzzle wrote:Is the rumoured change to the standard foc true? Is it 3 HQs now?

Orks have their own detachment type they can use, it is minimum 1 HQ and 3 Troop, but can take an additional 2 HQ, 6 Troop, 3 Heavy, 3 Elite, 3 Fast

9 troops and 3 HQ?

Really, really?

which would make them the first army to have a "Special" FOC... which i guess means other armis will get one... oh wait no sorry unbound i always forget about that.. just take 3 hq and 9 troops in every faction..

so any Idea what Ghaz's supplement is? is that only going to be available in the warboss edition or will it be released again later?

I'm trying to decide on just the codex, or the warboss edition with the extra supplement.

Hrmmm, Big Mek, Cybork Body, KFF, Relic Bike. 120 Points.

4+ Save, 5++ Bubble, Assault 3 AP3 Twinlinked Guns. 6+ FNP. Not awful?

Does their detachment not have a lord of war and fortification slot?

 Melcavuk wrote:

Hollismason wrote:Also is that rumour of a big squad of Nobs acting as a Warboss true?

Nope

kronk wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:

monkeypuzzle wrote:Is the rumoured change to the standard foc true? Is it 3 HQs now?

Orks have their own detachment type they can use, it is minimum 1 HQ and 3 Troop, but can take an additional 2 HQ, 6 Troop, 3 Heavy, 3 Elite, 3 Fast

9 troops and 3 HQ?

Really, really?

Yup, I cant see why you'd use it instead of just taking 3 combined arms detachments to get upto 9 heavies in though. The special rules are kinda meh.

So much sadness in this thread.
Could you make a summary of what has been buffed? My poor hearth has had enough pain for one day.

 Eldarain wrote:

Chosen Praetorian wrote:
Well hopefully the fluff is still awesome. If there's a bunch of new GOOD fluff I can at least take comfort in that.

The second stage: Bargaining.

I thought anger was first, shouldn't you be on the third stage?

Melcavuk, can you confirm whether Ork Boyz points are still the same and any change in stats? My green tide army is at stake. :(

Da Lucky Strike Relic: +1 WS, In addition the user can choose to reroll any failed to hit, to wound or saving throws they make. If they fail 3 of these rerolls in a single turn they are removed as a casualty.

So you can have a 2+ Rerollable mega armour save? Just dont use it 3 times in a row.

Chosen Praetorian wrote:
Well hopefully the fluff is still awesome. If there's a bunch of new GOOD fluff I can at least take comfort in that.

The second stage: Bargaining.

Hahaha brilliant

1) Painboy cost?
2) Any special rulse for Painboys and Meks?
3) Kommandos and Snikrot cost?

 Melcavuk wrote:
Hrmmm, Big Mek, Cybork Body, KFF, Relic Bike. 120 Points.

4+ Save, 5++ Bubble, Assault 3 AP3 Twinlinked Guns. 6+ FNP. Not awful?

wait wait wait...our FnP was dropped to 6+ from 5+? You need to check that its important.

 Melcavuk wrote:
All must take the same, the upgrade replaces the slugga and all must do so if one does.

The weapons for the Nob is completely independant from what the boys have, they may buy from ranged or melee weapon list (so yes you can have kombi shoota along with 3 big shootas in a mob of 30).

So my 6 mobz of 30 Shoota Boyz is @ least valid (26 Shootaz, 3 Big Shootaz, Nob with PK)? That's something.

I know what happened, some Smurf players were complaining to GW I kept beating them with my Orkz. GW said "That ain't supposed to happen, Space Marines always win!" NERF!!

 Ratius wrote:

Chosen Praetorian wrote:
Well hopefully the fluff is still awesome. If there's a bunch of new GOOD fluff I can at least take comfort in that.

The second stage: Bargaining.

Hahaha brilliant

Haha just let me have this one thing, PLEASE!

Chosen Praetorian wrote:Does their detachment not have a lord of war and fortification slot?

Sorry yes, 1 of each as standard

SabrX wrote:Melcavuk, can you confirm whether Ork Boyz points are still the same and any change in stats? My green tide army is at stake. :(

+1 point to shoota boys, no stat change

They come with stick bombs as standard so technically take that away the slugga boys are effectively a point cheaper? And if you bought stick bombs for your shoota boys they're the same price.



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 Orock wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:
Hrmmm, Big Mek, Cybork Body, KFF, Relic Bike. 120 Points.

4+ Save, 5++ Bubble, Assault 3 AP3 Twinlinked Guns. 6+ FNP. Not awful?

wait wait wait...our FnP was dropped to 6+ from 5+? You need to check that its important.

Cybork is 6+, Painboy gives 5+

Admittedly not much, but something.

sirlynchmob wrote:

 Eldarain wrote:

Chosen Praetorian wrote:
Well hopefully the fluff is still awesome. If there's a bunch of new GOOD fluff I can at least take comfort in that.

The second stage: Bargaining.

I thought anger was first, shouldn't you be on the third stage?

Ork player grief plays out a bit differently.

Does the Blitza-Bommer's bombs now have an AP value that is actually useful for pens? That is can it now cause an explosion?

Good changes: Cheap IWND on vehicles (5 points on Kans, 10 on dreds)

Relics are cool and give variety.

Psychic powers are good.

Warlord traits are all useful (none of this "gives fear" rubbish)

Alot of point drops across the board.

KFF can be combined with mega armour and bikes, Shock attack gun seems to be combinable with bikes.

Git finda on SAG mek?

Painboy is IC, so put him where you need him, can take a bike.

Mega nobz look cool.

Dedi transports available for burnas and tank bustas now.

 Melcavuk wrote:
Hrmmm, Big Mek, Cybork Body, KFF, Relic Bike. 120 Points.

4+ Save, 5++ Bubble, Assault 3 AP3 Twinlinked Guns. 6+ FNP. Not awful?

>>6+ FNP
From what?


Rumors about lootas shooting use enemy venchel is true?
No new model at all?

Grimgor Skullbusta wrote:
Does the Blitza-Bommer's bombs now have an AP value that is actually useful for pens? That is can it now cause an explosion?

AP2, so thats something right? On a 6 you can blow stuff up. Also armourbane

1. other than the removal of the 4+ and the 7 point drop have Warbikers had any other changes?

2. I heard one of the relics is a warbike, what does it do?


I am not to bothered about losing the 4+ as I can get that with jink and rolling 6s rather than 5s isnt a huge deal especially when I can afford a lot more bikers now.

 WildDuck wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:
Hrmmm, Big Mek, Cybork Body, KFF, Relic Bike. 120 Points.

4+ Save, 5++ Bubble, Assault 3 AP3 Twinlinked Guns. 6+ FNP. Not awful?

>>6+ FNP
From what?

Cybork Body.

Who ever bought stikkbombs? we attack last anyway so assault grenades are pointless and the S3 small blast is pretty bad.

what about specail character kaptin badrukk and snikkrot

Thank you so much Melcavuk, shame I was thinking of starting a Ork army, but I think I will pass. Though can a Warboss take any other weapons besides a Power Klaw or Big Choppa?

 Melcavuk wrote:

SabrX wrote:Melcavuk, can you confirm whether Ork Boyz points are still the same and any change in stats? My green tide army is at stake. :(

+1 point to shoota boys, no stat change
They come with stick bombs as standard so technically take that away the slugga boys are effectively a point cheaper? And if you bought stick bombs for your shoota boys they're the same price.

Hmm, standard stick bombs is nice to have in this edition. Thanks for the speedy response!

WildDuck wrote:

 Melcavuk wrote:
Hrmmm, Big Mek, Cybork Body, KFF, Relic Bike. 120 Points.

4+ Save, 5++ Bubble, Assault 3 AP3 Twinlinked Guns. 6+ FNP. Not awful?

>>6+ FNP
From what?


Rumors about lootas shooting use enemy venchel is true?
No new model at all?

Nothing about shooting enemy vehicles no, New mega nobz but no new Lootas

steve1 wrote:1. other than the removal of the 4+ and the 7 point drop have Warbikers had any other changes?

2. I heard one of the relics is a warbike, what does it do?


I am not to bothered about losing the 4+ as I can get that with jink and rolling 6s rather than 5s isnt a huge deal especially when I can afford a lot more bikers now.

Warbikers seem the same other than those changes, they can have 15 in a squad? the warbike relic can turbo boost 18 inches instead of 12, and has twinlinked str 6 AP3 assault 3 guns

sexybitchrosie wrote:what about specail character kaptin badrukk and snikkrot

Both there, Badrukk is a HQ (3+, 5++, str 7 AP2 assault 3 gun) , Snikkrot an elite (doesnt take a slot if taken with Kommandos) (shrouded on arrival, you pick an edge to outflank dont roll)

Archon_Zarbyrn wrote:Thank you so much Melcavuk, shame I was thinking of starting a Ork army, but I think I will pass. Though can a Warboss take any other weapons besides a Power Klaw or Big Choppa?

Other than the relic big choppa no other melee weapons, theres a relic shoota or the usual variety of kombi shootas

 Vineheart01 wrote:
Who ever bought stikkbombs? we attack last anyway so assault grenades are pointless and the S3 small blast is pretty bad.

I thought they were frag and krak essentially. So if 20ish boys attack a dreadnaught with str 6 bombs, its nice. or any av 12 vehicle or less really.

Are big choppas the same?

Is there any kind of dedicated transport for boyz besides a trukk (BW perhaps)? So shoota boyz are 7 points now?