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So, recently I've started s Huron CSM army, and as per his warlord trait, he gives D3 units the infiltration special rule. The question here is if you have to give both the unit AND huron the infiltrate special rule in order for the unit with huron to infiltrate, or can you just give infiltration to huron to achieve that same goal? Note that the unit can't give huron infiltration (p. 38), but can huron give infiltration to the squad?

As best I can tell, it works like this:

- An Independent Character can begin the game already with a unit... by being deployed in unit coherency. (p. 39)

- While an Independent Character is part of a unit, he counts as part of the unit for all rules purposes... (p. 39)

- Units that contain at least one model with this special rule... [can infiltrate] (p. 38)


And here's the strange part, so long as a squad of CSM deploys within 2" of huron, they have infiltration, and can thus deploy outside of their deployment zone, allowing them to deployed within 2" of huron.

As best I can tell, the "pro" argument here is:

- Deployment, including infiltration, counts as a single phase. It's not that a unit has to deploy first and then figure out if it has infiltrators or not. It's not that deploying next to huron "retroactively" gives the squad infiltration. So long as they deploy in coherency, they have it. If they have it, they can be deployed out of the deployment zone. You've only broken the rules if, at the END of deployment you have models deployed incorrectly.

And the "con" argument is:

- The squad of CSM doesn't have infiltration, which means you can't deploy outside of the deployment zone. If you put Huron halfway up the table, you can't deploy the CSM outside of the deployment zone to be able to join a unit with him to be able to deploy out of the deployment zone to join him. You can't retroactively apply infiltration to a unit that doesn't contain at least one model with it. It can not be "deployed last" because it doesn't have the infiltration rule when its time for them to be deployed normally.

This is an ever popular topic:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/534245.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/535312.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/530974.page

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/531412.page

Infiltrators are deployed last, after both armies have deployed.

At this time where are Huron and the CSM?
Hint: One of them is already deployed.