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I've gotten lucky that the few times I've played Dark Eldar I managed to get a cross table alpha strike my land raider and a few rhinos

Gits, I wanna pick your brain on that force weapon on your libby. I've scratch built one, and being blue and all, a blue power weapon is going to blend in too much.

Every single time
and then when you get to close for comfort they fly OVER you for gods sakes

5669 replies and we still can't bug legoburner about the rollover issue


Dark Eldar are nasty... but I've learned a few things for fighting them.

Massive volleys of fire will kill their ships (bolters can do this ), Lack of haywire grenades on some Named ICs means you can throw a dreadnought at them to tie them up for the entire game, and in the end, they are only S3 T3 models (for the most part)

thats because it hasnt reached...OVER 9000!

dajobe wrote:thats because it hasnt reached...OVER 9000!

We must continue to post!

Also, I find that the best way to combat DE is to quite simply play their strengths against them. I play 2 1500 point guard armies, one Mech and one with no tanks at all! When facing DE I tend to opt for the Infantry one and combine all of my Platoon into a big 50 man unit, those AP1 shots just get wasted then! giving me free reign to fire at least 5 MLs a turn.

Hey guys... finally back. While it's nice to be able to post from my i-phone it means my posts are pretty short and without depth. Thanks everyone for being patient and I do appreciate the conversations continuing without me (and no, I'm not being sarcastic... I mean it). Thanks for keeping the blog interesting when I don't have much to contribute. Been fun reading the discussion. Haven't had a chance to play Dark Eldar since ... 3rd edition maybe. They were a real PITA then and I assume they're the same now.

@Alf: Go right ahead man. The reason my weapon and shield are orange are for the reasons you state. My power weapons are typically blue, but I wanted to make the force weapons stand out in some way from the blue of the librarian armor. I plan on doing some kind of orange glow around his helmet too (somehow... not the whole helmet... just bits of it to give the impression of psychic force). I also want to play some lightning across the shield and axe... we'll see how that goes.

Feel free to PM me if you prefer a private discussion.

Lego is well apprised of the page rollover issue, I'm sure if he could do something about it he would. I think it's built into the basic software that dakka runs on. Until that changes, I think we're stuck with it (any mods, admin or dakka old-timers are welcome to jump in here if they want... though I'm not sure if many watch this thread).

I hope to have some opportunity to pile into my painting again, I'm ready to really make some progress on the librarian, but first things first... I've been missing my kids and want to spend some quality time with them. Keep an eye open, might have something substantial to show in an evening or two.

Gits

A public discussion is fine, I'm just curious how you did it, and then I'll have to figure out how to do it with a brush, because you do yours with an airbrush right?

Nope, all done with a brush. I did it using a wet palate. So multiple layers of very thin paint working from light to dark, with some more opaque layers at the extremes. Zoom in on those pics and you'll clearly see the delineation between layers.

... actually, zooming in it looks like I might have worked from dark to light (which was dumb).

Will do

Any plans to expand upon your Vanguard concept that you did? would love to see a squad of those

@Asylum: Oh yes, there will be a squad of vanguard... just has to wait it's turn. Once I actually finish the libby and scout bikes, I think the van is next on the list.

So much to do, so little time

The Libby and the scout bikes will keep me more than interested until the vanguard come around though, so im not too worried.

More than anything I just want to see what you come up with from a posing standpoint, you definitely favour very dynamic posing with your models and 5 or so Vanguard present an opportunity to something really cool.

so like a crazy person i read this thing from page one, git i been following your work for a better part of a month so i know the ups and downs and all the cool stuff in between. (i think i should have asylum's avatar after the read ) any way great work like always cant wait to see more. and happy belated fourth (yea yea i know im really late better late than never). well onwards and upwards!

bama

Thanks AH, appreciate that.

Git, I need a Mojo project. Got anything I can build for you?

--B.

I'm sure I can send you parts... you want a marine project or an orky one?

Gits is setting homework now? lol

Had a great game tonight! 2000 pt with my Mantis Warriors vs. chaos marines. The game was a complete draw but as I practice with my current configuration I'm convinced that I'm really on to something. I was is really good position really wipe out an entire flank of my opponent's army in turn one, unfortunately really bad dice rolling thwarted that effort, however I did cripple the flank and the mobility and fire power of my current list was a real problem for my opponent to deal with. With minor tweaks I'm going to continue playing iterations of my current list & see if I can't make it reasonably competitive. Having access to a Lucius pattern drop pod really helps... unfortunately it's unlikely that I'll be able to use one again as our FLGS does not allow IA rules in it's serious tourneys. I'm fine with that, but having an Iron Clad that can assault on turn 1 is really sweet.

Could you post the list? I know this is your Painting and Modeling Blog, but we've seen in the past that the models you have painted influence your lists.

Sure Alf... Actually, I'll just post the "core" units so you can see how they all work together...

HQ: terminator epistolary librarian w/ gate & null zone (with sternguard)
Elite: Iron Clad (pod)
Elite: Rifleman (pod)
Elite: 8 sternguard, 3 combiplas, 3 combimeltas, melta, srg w/ PF & combimelta, pod
Troop: 5x tac, srg w/ PW, las/plaz razor
Troop: ibid
Troop: 5 scouts, srg w/ combimelta, MB
Troop: ibid
FA: LS Storm w/ MM
FA: ibid
FA: 5x scout bikes, 3 astartes grenade launchers, srg w/ PW, MB & homing beacon
Hvy: 5x devs (4x ML)

I can get the above list for around 1850, which is standard points out here for a decent sized game.


How it works... 4 scoring units, all in transports. Scouts in LS Storms can infiltrate and scout as can the scout bikes. Rifleman and Razorbacks act as a mobile fire base that can claim objectives, with the ML dev's in support. The dev's are on no one's priority list and they never fail to do something really good before my opponent decides that they need to be taken care of.

If I have first turn... the bikes and LS Storms infiltrate and scout move to within 12" of whatever I want to hit, usually an isolated flank if I can. Turn 1 the pods with the Iron Clad and sternguard + HQ come down without deviation near the homing beacon on the scout bike sergeant, then the bikes and LS Storms move up to support, unleashing an amazing amount of fire power pretty much anywhere on the talble I want (thanks to the infiltrate and scouting moves). Because of the depth of incoming fire (LS Storms, units in LS storm, dread, bikes & long range supporting fire)... I have a decent chance of popping transports and then killing what's inside. The scouts can also assault out of the LS storms vs. stationary vehicles if needed. At these ranges, all of the meltas are rolling double-pen dice.

The next "trick" is that after one of these alpha-strikes, my sternguard are kind of stuck in place and out of the rest of the battle, however with the attached psycher, they can gate 24" back into the battle... *and* they also can use the homing beacon on the scout bike sergeant to home in on. So I can use my scout bikes to pin-point their movement... and since they're a shooting unit they aren't harmed by blipping around the board. This afternoon I actually blipped them out of their initial assault to keep them away from Abbadon and his Land Raider... then blipped them back to the center of the board again to make a final run at the central objective. With 4 mobile (if fragile) scoring units and so many high priority targets to deal with... the army can be a real handfull.

If I get second turn... I outflank the bikes and LS Storms, which can cause problems late in the game, deploy the rest on the table in a gun line, with the exception of the Iron Clad which might come down in it's own pod depending on the situation.

I'm still learning how to use it... but all the parts seem fully capable of working as I imagined. I was in a postion to win the game in turn 6... I just forgot one of the mission objectives which I probably could have easily accomplished had I thought of it. It's not a top-tier killer of a list... but it's interesting to fight, fast, flexible and can really give my opponent's some issues that are difficult to deal with. The scout bikes with the homing beacon are the key... without them it's just another collection of marines.

Gits, everything is looking great (still...)
God damn it! All I need is 171 more pages and I'll have a longer blog!

Just wondering, I went to go on dakka about 1 day ago and it said "we are upgrading/performing matinence"
Did anyone else get something similar?
If so I HOPE it was an upgrade that fixes page roll-over!

Yes, Legoburner was moving servers

oh well...
maybe next time...

Just read through the entire thread......(almost died)....such great work...astounding almost 200 page thread is astounding...

People are *Still* trying to read the whole blog?

Gits if this thing reaches 500, loads of people will die attempting and some more will die commiting suicide out of frustration...

This blog is going to become an initiation rite for dakka, you have to read it all or you arent a serious dakkaite

I'll confess I read it all when I first started.

This is like a coming of age ritual for the P&M forums

Same here, it was one of the first things I did after joining the forum

I remember going temporarily insane when I read it, and it was only 70 some pages long... Gits, you need a warning on the first post with links to the latest content.... Oh wait, you have that already .

Gitsplitta: Lord of Madness.