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2016/02/19 19:45:55
Subject: Re:Deathwatch vs Genestealer Cult boardgame page13 first pic
Vermonter wrote: Has it been made clear yet whether the hybrids will be multi-part kits or monopose figures?
If they're going to be multi-part, I can't see GW not releasing them independently of this board game after awhile, and that would be the release I'd be most interested in.
Single figures like the Magus would likely be re-released, but at such a high price point that I wouldn't bother with them.
I think it said that all the figures were monopose
2016/02/19 20:00:45
Subject: Deathwatch vs Genestealer Cult boardgame page13 first pic
The army list in the 2nd edition Tyranid codex gave them access to a bunch of IG stuff. I tend to think that they'll retain that, but in the form of battle brothers alliance with AM/IG rather than being baked into the list. The Harlequin or Admech setups would work perfectly for GCults...a few units, maybe a vehicle, a unique detachment and access to AM and Tyranid allies.
Yeah...I don't see them getting Battle Brothers with AM/IG.
On a fluff or game balance basis?
It couldn't be fluffier. That's what Brood Brothers ARE. And balance...is something that GW doesn't really pay close attention to these days.
PDF != IG/AM.
PDFs are a separate thing. IG/AM recruit from the ranks of the PDF and when worlds are conquered/scoured, injured/older Guardsmen can muster out for officer ranks in the newly founded PDF.
2016/02/19 21:07:24
Subject: Deathwatch vs Genestealer Cult boardgame page13 first pic
But that's getting granular to a level that doesn't exist in the game. There is no army list for PDF, and if someone was going to run them, they'd use the AM codex. Past incarnations of GCults had AM/IG gear in the army list to represent PDF equipment.
Besides, Brood Brothers don't even HAVE to be PDF. AM forces are stationed on planets that are at risk from GCults like any other. And what about units like the Ultramar Defense Auxilia that are probably equal in quality to regular AM?
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gorgon wrote: But that's getting granular to a level that doesn't exist in the game. There is no army list for PDF, and if someone was going to run them, they'd use the AM codex. Past incarnations of GCults had AM/IG gear in the army list to represent PDF equipment.
Besides, Brood Brothers don't even HAVE to be PDF. AM forces are stationed on planets that are at risk from GCults like any other. And what about units like the Ultramar Defense Auxilia that are probably equal in quality to regular AM?
Ultramar PDF is better than regular AM.
2016/02/19 21:16:14
Subject: Deathwatch vs Genestealer Cult boardgame page13 first pic
gorgon wrote: But that's getting granular to a level that doesn't exist in the game. There is no army list for PDF, and if someone was going to run them, they'd use the AM codex. Past incarnations of GCults had AM/IG gear in the army list to represent PDF equipment.
Besides, Brood Brothers don't even HAVE to be PDF. AM forces are stationed on planets that are at risk from GCults like any other. And what about units like the Ultramar Defense Auxilia that are probably equal in quality to regular AM?
HH book five: Tempest has an army list for cult/militia that can be used to represent a PDF force
Brood Brothers = any regular human. Take whatever models you like that fit that description for them I would say. I would imagine high ranking magos from AM would not be very susceptible to Stealer brood telepathy, due to lack of... equipment... and replacing good chunks of their brains.
I'm going to buy ten.... I can't control myself. The video teeeeeeeaswrrr! Look at those Cultists! And that Magos in the background!
Wallet, you can make it! Don't die on me now!
Also, Salamander Terminator there, and a Space wolf it looks.
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PourSpelur wrote: It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
PDFs are a separate thing. IG/AM recruit from the ranks of the PDF and when worlds are conquered/scoured, injured/older Guardsmen can muster out for officer ranks in the newly founded PDF.
We get it, we really do. But it's a big wide galaxy and there are some PDFs who would be equipped just as well as the IG. You think Marneus Calgar skimps on his Ultramar PDF? Besides, GW craps all over the fluff when it comes to selling models. As far as they're concerned, fluff is just stuff written by former employees waiting to be changed or retconned by current employees.
gorgon wrote: But that's getting granular to a level that doesn't exist in the game. There is no army list for PDF, and if someone was going to run them, they'd use the AM codex. Past incarnations of GCults had AM/IG gear in the army list to represent PDF equipment.
Well, actually there is a kind of army list for PDF in the form of the "Renegades and Heretics" or "Tyrant's Legion" lists. Both of them represent PDFs and the kind of equipment they normally have--and as a bonus, the Tyrant's Legion list from Badab is actually a good way of representing the Ultramar Defense Auxilia and their meshing with the Ultramarines.
Besides, Brood Brothers don't even HAVE to be PDF. AM forces are stationed on planets that are at risk from GCults like any other. And what about units like the Ultramar Defense Auxilia that are probably equal in quality to regular AM?
AM forces when stationed planetside might be at risk, but it's not like the GCults are suddenly getting their hands on Baneblades or crap like that. And we've already had others mention the fact that the fluff has established gene-testing is a thing for Guard stationed where GCults were/are active.
Also, is that a Broodlord/Patriarch attacking the SpaceWolf? It has different armor/chitin than the other stealers in shot. It also looks wider/stockier.
PourSpelur wrote: It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
I'm glad to see Nid players finally getting their cultists but as a guy who kitbashed a large Deathwatch force, I'm not seeing any "must buy" items in this box.
Actual Hybrids. They're coming back to 40K. This is amazing!!!
And do you notice how one of the Hybrids in that pic has an autogun, the same one the classic Hybrid of old mini had?
Breotan wrote: I'm glad to see Nid players finally getting their cultists but as a guy who kitbashed a large Deathwatch force, I'm not seeing any "must buy" items in this box.
I have a similar opinion of the Deathwatch stuff. Two people in my group, myself included, have Deathwatch armies. Due to the RPG I have made dozens and dozens of unique one-off minis not even designed for regular 40K. My other friend used up a lot of hits bits at the end of last year making 200 (!) new Deathwatch Marines. The two of us need new DW Marines like we need a hole in the head (although DW Termies are always welcome).
But the Hybrids? That's a different story altogether...
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Why are the hybrids wearing exo-skeletons? I thouhht gear like that wasn't available to anyone outside of groups like the Inquisition, the Sisters of Battle, and the Astartes?
Barzam wrote: Why are the hybrids wearing exo-skeletons? I thouhht gear like that wasn't available to anyone outside of groups like the Inquisition, the Sisters of Battle, and the Astartes?
If it's anything like the Genestealer Cultists from the "Tempestus" novella, it's not a "combat" exo-skeleton but rather it's repurposed civilian gear. Those cultists repurposed diving suits that had exoskeleton components for mining/commercial purposes so that they could "emulate those they worshiped".
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