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this new kickstarter has started today.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/986826251/fallen-frontiers

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check it out.

Really impressed by this on the first look. Goal is pretty high but they really seem to have their stuff together.

I'm liking the looks of some of those more heavily armored troopers.

Not sure why, but it's giving me an AT-43 vibe. Those Sayx Vulcans especially are giving me flashbacks of TacArms suits.

Look like it's got potential,

although they don't seem too clear on what material/factory they plan to use which is a bit worrying as if they have not got somebody lined up I don't know how they can be sure of the costs/timescale


"Creator SCALE GAMES 36 minutes ago

Martin Lymer : the material will behigh quality plastic injection molding. but we do not decline using resin or metal according to the results of the KS."

A better picture of what's in the starter box from their website:



All of it really depends on the rules honestly. Although it's interesting that they also use the concept of cards and resource play during games. I've been writing a rules set with the same ideas, so that's a bit of parallel creativity there. The concept is from RTS games, but I think can add something to tabletop games.

I think people have become a lot more accepting of extra boardgame style components on the tabletop nowadays, especially since adding more interesting elements without components and add-ons can make the rules crushingly complex and bloated.

The sculpts and art style are good, but some elements are a bit basic in terms of detail and design. A lot of the design is also a more derivative than usual, most likely because they use people who's last job was working on those past games like AT-43, and drawing from the same modern scifi look that Mass Effect and the like draw from.

But why choose 35mm ?

I feel like backing this just for the dice and bases.

Too bad there's no comparison pics, although there will probably be some by the end of the kickstarter.

For 35mm, they probably mean closer to the scale that GW setup, that weird "heroic" 28mm that everyone uses nowadays. It's more honest to call it 32mm-35mm.

A bit on the spendy side for a squad-based game IMO. Concepts look great.

 plastictrees wrote:
Really impressed by this on the first look. Goal is pretty high but they really seem to have their stuff together.

This exactly. The miniatures look really good and their style fresh but I think the amount the seek to collect is very ambitious. I wish good luck!!

Where does it say they're 32mm?

Additionally, their stretch goals don't seem too ambitious considering they're planning on adding stuff to the main boxed set.

Interesting look. I am not looking to increase my game count but those miniatures could be used in other games.

 corgan wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
Really impressed by this on the first look. Goal is pretty high but they really seem to have their stuff together.

This exactly. The miniatures look really good and their style fresh but I think the amount the seek to collect is very ambitious. I wish good luck!!

they'll make it, probably even in one day.

The bigger issue imo, is down the road if they don't enough funding to do the stuff in plastic or everything will they switch it up well after the KS is over, as quoted by Orlando.
I see them getting near a million, don't know if that would be enough to cover the cost depending what is down the road in terms of stretch goals.


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 Absolutionis wrote:
Where does it say they're 32mm?

Additionally, their stretch goals don't seem too ambitious considering they're planning on adding stuff to the main boxed set.

in the comments and on face book they say 35mm

Been waiting for this to show up. It's been a while since a kickstarter had virtually only good minis and no meh ones. Might be focusing on this for my sci-fi figure fill. Still - it depends on what material they'll be using in the end.

at least they said no restic, with emphasis.

very cool looking minis!!!

i will be happy to get those Vulkan suits in good plastic...
i loved the look of the AT-43 tac. arms, but hated the bendy plastic, so i never bought any...
they look like they will be fun to paint...

thanks for the heads-up...

cheers
jah

Looks interesting. Material is confirmed as NOT restic/PVC in the comments. 1st choice is injection molded hard platic ABS like Dreamforge/GW. If not, then resin or metal. I think the creators need to clarify what funding they need for plastic if it is higher than £90k. Once they do that, I'll likely back this.

 Piston Honda wrote:
at least they said no restic, with emphasis.

A jab at Mantic?

I'd back it for no other reason than that. A shame about the high price per model though.

If they're serious about doing hard plastic, I'm probably going to have to throw down for a few figures as well.

Looks nice. But I'm burned out.

 agnosto wrote:

 Piston Honda wrote:
at least they said no restic, with emphasis.

A jab at Mantic?

I'd back it for no other reason than that. A shame about the high price per model though.

Basically a jab at the dead dog s#!t material.

From time to time you can get nice minis.

But 9 times out of 10, the miniature ends up being a bigger disappointment than George Lucas.


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willb2064 wrote:
Looks interesting. Material is confirmed as NOT restic/PVC in the comments. 1st choice is injection molded hard platic ABS like Dreamforge/GW. If not, then resin or metal. I think the creators need to clarify what funding they need for plastic if it is higher than £90k. Once they do that, I'll likely back this.

Aye!

I don't mind metal after dealing with restic. But metal seems better suited for malifaux and infinity size games.

In a game where I need 30 or 40+ troops, it's a bit painful

Well to satisfy my own need to know - I asked what material and for them to confirm that not restic means not PVC as well (There has just been too many different definitions from different companies to make any assumptions). The answer I got is a great one and I am at ease:

we are aiming for a quality product But we have not yet choosen the exact material. It will not be any kind of pvc do.

Hope this helps you

I'm hoping this means HIPS or some kind of polystyrene like all good kit producers use.

'Ares Condominium '...?

Nice designs, but too big.

Yeah... was a little confused by that. Even the somewhat archaic use doesn't really seem that applicable.

 insaniak wrote:
'Ares Condominium '...?

Nice designs, but too big.

huh?

Man. Gotta admit I'm pretty blown away by this. Production values are there. Scale Games has clearly invested quite a bit into this already. They have physical product already, not just ideas. And the paint jobs on those minis are fantastic. I want one of everything. But these are certainly not cheap. But at the same time, if we hit all the revealed stretch goals, we're already talking quite a few freebies.

heh, just realized this company is the same that made duel fighters.

I wanted to back that one to, but at that scale, my horrible painting skill would be magnified making their works of art look like dead dog s#!t.

I decided to back it. They need to give more clarity on what material they will be using though. They are giving the impression they don't even know yet.

I'm liking the look of the minis a lot, but 35mm... that's going to kill a lot of the options for using the miniatures with other games. Which is likely intentional and also pushes people to use their terrain.

Going to have to think in it a bit, designs are great, scale not so much.

Any good shots of that gaming mat?

Just took a good long look at this one and...


...wow!

IF the get this all in 'hard plastic' they'll have a big winner on their hands, 'scale issues' and all!

That's a BIG 'if' though.

Still, glad to see that "PVC/Restic" isn't at risk here.

I'm in!