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It's actually not as a good as a point as you think. Sisters have always been called Adeptus Sororitas in Germany. Besides, the design is probably not done in-house. It looks like just a streamlining and tablet-friendlification to me, the designers probably have just taken the old content and put it into a new format.

And honestly I can't see a reason why anybody would fake this.

 Allod wrote:

Peregrine wrote:
Why provide news for free when you can put it in White™ Dwarf™ Weekly™?

Of course, how could I ever forget this pinnacle of news media! Silly me.

Weekly World WhiteDwarf News?

 Allod wrote:
"Hey GW, the 90s called, they want their webstore design back!"

https://xkcd.com/875/

Ragnar69 wrote:
It's actually not as a good as a point as you think. Sisters have always been called Adeptus Sororitas in Germany. Besides, the design is probably not done in-house. It looks like just a streamlining and tablet-friendlification to me, the designers probably have just taken the old content and put it into a new format.

And honestly I can't see a reason why anybody would fake this.

You might be right about it being good for tablets. When I use my Ipad mini to go on their website it is such a pain to click stuff sometimes....
I don't really mind this set up for the website but I do wish they would have an area where they have all the old articles stored (the ones that are nearly impossible to find now or are gone all together)

anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:Both Whats New Today and the new website will go live on April 11th. The site will be easier to navigate, and comes with a lot of new features, some of which are not on the test sites. Forgeworld will be there eventually, but is not right now.

So they're keeping What's On Sale Today?

 Kroothawk wrote:

anonymous source on Faeit 212 wrote:Both Whats New Today and the new website will go live on April 11th. The site will be easier to navigate, and comes with a lot of new features, some of which are not on the test sites. Forgeworld will be there eventually, but is not right now.

sounds like back peddling in the face of another wrong rumor

 ironicsilence wrote:

sounds like back peddling in the face of another wrong rumor

This.

Forge World can never be on that site, because traditional pressure-mould-hand-cast resin that takes a few hours to set and harden simply can't be produced in those quantities.

By default, if they'd want to ramp up production enough to enter "GW main", they'd need to port it to plastic or the (harden-in-seconds-good-for-spin-casts) Finecast.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 ironicsilence wrote:

sounds like back peddling in the face of another wrong rumor

This.

Forge World can never be on that site, because traditional pressure-mould-hand-cast resin that takes a few hours to set and harden simply can't be produced in those quantities.

By default, if they'd want to ramp up production enough to enter "GW main", they'd need to port it to plastic or the (harden-in-seconds-good-for-spin-casts) Finecast.

Do you really think that one extra click is a barrier to sales sufficient to prevent FW going into meltdown?

They talk about FW releases in "what we're pushing today" there's a direct (albeit small, I'll concede) link through to the site from the main GW page. I'd argue the price is a far more effective barrier to FW selling in volumes outside of their capacity, but I guess that argument is losing substance with each new release.

 azreal13 wrote:


Do you really think that one extra click is a barrier to sales sufficient to prevent FW going into meltdown?

A "meltdown"? No.

But I believe it would be inefficient to "pre-cast" Forge World stuff and ship it, and stock it, at GWs various hubs around the world, making it available to the same conditions (speed of shipping, free shipping, etc..).

The current Forge World range is largely tiny quantities of "cast-on-demand" when stuff is ordered, with the likely exception of high-volume "sale-on-release" like the HH Primarchs, etc..

But it just doesn't make sense to stock, say, an Eldar Nightwing and a Tyranid Malanthrope, etc.. in every hub around the world, when only ~2 of them are sold a year, upon which a Forge World guy goes and picks the mould from the cellar, pours in resin, watches a Champions League Match and springs it from the mould the next morning to ship it.

I could imagine perhaps a system similar to how the current ("old") webstore works with Black Library. The ~10 top sellers of a given month are in there, stocked by GW hubs around the world, so they can chuck the book in if you order it with your Tac Marines, but don't hold the entire range. But even that is stretching it, as even BL books are printed in advance (and, like most stuff in the book trade, destroyed after period X to free up storage room). The system applied to FW would probably also mean piles of Forge World stuff destroyed at every hub every month or so if it doesn't sell.

You've made a critical assumption that they would ship FW product in the same manner as GW.

There's no reason why it couldn't have a disclaimer along the lines of "FW takes x amount of extra time to ship" and just carry on behind the scenes like normal.

 azreal13 wrote:
You've made a critical assumption that they would ship FW product in the same manner as GW.

There's no reason why it couldn't have a disclaimer along the lines of "FW takes x amount of extra time to ship" and just carry on behind the scenes like normal.

Possibly.

Still, why feth up the shiny new webstore with ugly disclaimers, which the 13-year-olds will still not read (and complain later), when you have a perfectly fine FW website and brand-separation to do that job for you.

If you carry on behind the scenes as normal, what advantages are there to adding Forge World to the GW-shop, other than trolling the GW customer-service guys? The FW fans will find their fix on the Forge World site easy enough, and the "new-to-this-loooook!-Sternguard"-crowd isn't the target audience of FW anyhow.

Also, FW is how GW squeezes a second customer-cycle out of customers bored of the main-range. You don't wanna waste that come-back-bullet the first time round, no?

Stop applying conventional logic to anything GW does right now.

It's probably just to save on the hosting costs of maintaining more than one domain.

Between the rumours of FW in store shipping and the plastic medusa I was looking forward to April. We'll see if the month is awesome or awesome for my wallet.

 Peregrine wrote:

 PotentiallyLethal wrote:
I think what people are hoping for is the possibility of ordering on the online GW webpage and having it delivered free to your local GW store thus only really needing one trip to pick it up, but living 10 minutes walk from the local store I don't really care

That's what I'm talking about. Maybe that's more appealing in the UK where GW stores are everywhere, but my "local" GW store is still 25 miles away (and until a couple years ago there wasn't even one in the same state). So "free" shipping costs ~$7 worth of gas and an hour of driving, even if I can place the order online. I can't imagine how people are willing to pay $100 for a tank kit, but find the extra $7 for much more convenient delivery to be such a financial burden.

I think the original point was a Canadian ordering stuff into a US store, so is getting the favourable exchange rate rather than the free shipping. Say GW stuff is 10-20% cheaper if you buy it from the US, it'll still become worth the trip when the order is big enough to justify the fuel costs. We're only talking about a relatively short hop across the border to save a lot of money, people do that all the time.

Herzlos wrote:
I think the original point was a Canadian ordering stuff into a US store, so is getting the favourable exchange rate rather than the free shipping. Say GW stuff is 10-20% cheaper if you buy it from the US, it'll still become worth the trip when the order is big enough to justify the fuel costs. We're only talking about a relatively short hop across the border to save a lot of money, people do that all the time.

But that's an "advantage" you only get access to because "core" GW's international price differences are completely stupid. FW just bills you in GBP and lets your credit card company figure out the exchange rate, there would be absolutely no benefit from going across the border to buy FW stuff unless GW moves it into the "core" system and raises Canadian prices while keeping US prices constant. There is no way that would be an improvement for anyone compared to how it is now.

Commisar on Warseer wrote:Just noticed:
The Forge World, Digital Editions and Warhammer World Facebook pages are down.
And the "Follow us on Facebook / Twitter" buttons have disappeared from the Forge World Website.
Local Games Workshop store Facebook pages still up.

Not sure if this is permanent or a side effect of the website relaunch, maybe with a facebook relaunch.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:
You've made a critical assumption that they would ship FW product in the same manner as GW.

There's no reason why it couldn't have a disclaimer along the lines of "FW takes x amount of extra time to ship" and just carry on behind the scenes like normal.

Possibly.

Still, why feth up the shiny new webstore with ugly disclaimers, which the 13-year-olds will still not read (and complain later), when you have a perfectly fine FW website and brand-separation to do that job for you.

If you carry on behind the scenes as normal, what advantages are there to adding Forge World to the GW-shop, other than trolling the GW customer-service guys? The FW fans will find their fix on the Forge World site easy enough, and the "new-to-this-loooook!-Sternguard"-crowd isn't the target audience of FW anyhow.

Also, FW is how GW squeezes a second customer-cycle out of customers bored of the main-range. You don't wanna waste that come-back-bullet the first time round, no?

Because 13 year olds are buying Forgeworld models with all their superfluous disposable income. They're trying to consolidate things. That's not exactly a bad thing or a good thing, just a thing.

I buy everything from my FLGS because they provide 12 tables with enough terrain for 24. I'd like their doors to not close. Secondly, I can just shoot the manager an email and he orders my stuff. When it comes in, they hold it until I'm ready, including not forcing me to buy it all at once. I basically get to use them as a GW credit card. On top of that, miniatures market is about the same distance to me, and i could actually go into their store and buy it at 20% off, but still choose to support my FLGS. So, I hope they can order FW, too, even if it takes a couple weeks like GW bit orders do.

http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/

On Facebook, the warhammer world page has disappeared... merged into GW Nottingham. Hmmm.

 reds8n wrote:
http://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/

Pretty much confirms it. Thanks!

FW confirmed to a customer, that they consiously quitted facebook (reposted from BolS):

FW Customer Service wrote:It is with regret that Forge World has decided to stop its Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest sites. As these sites have grown in popularity over recent years it has become increasingly difficult to give them the support and attention required from within the FW team. Therefore we have taken the difficult decision to stop them completely.

In other words: Due to its popularity, we decided to quit facebook and twitter
So it doesn't look like they want to expand their presence on a redesigned GW website

 Kroothawk wrote:
FW confirmed to a customer, that they consiously quitted facebook (reposted from BolS):

FW Customer Service wrote:It is with regret that Forge World has decided to stop its Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest sites. As these sites have grown in popularity over recent years it has become increasingly difficult to give them the support and attention required from within the FW team. Therefore we have taken the difficult decision to stop them completely.

In other words: Due to its popularity, we decided to quit facebook and twitter
So it doesn't look like they want to expand their presence on a redesigned GW website

Although (with uncharacteristic restraint) you've only implied how idiotic this move it, is is indeed nonsensical in business terms.

Warhammer world in particular needs facebook, because that's often how people organise games. When they run tournaments, it's the most appropriate way to share news reports. Ultimately, if you're not getting positive vibes and news from Warhammer World, why keep it open?.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Last GW annual report said that relaunch of a bigger and improved GW webstore was planned for April.

I hadn't seen this previously. Just double checked and that means a lot of folks get no credit for predicting that.

 Peregrine wrote:
I really don't get the "FW is so hard to come by" argument. You buy it online, just like you buy anything else online. Having the ability to order it through a local store doesn't help because, like most of what GW sells, it's not going to be on the shelf when you come in to buy it. So why drive out to a store, place an order, and then drive back to pick it up when you can just buy online from home and let UPS do all of the delivery work? The only thing adding FW to the "main" GW store will do is add the ability to give charity donations to your local independent store with more products.

Man, if only there was a way I could communicate with the people at my FLGS without having to leave my house. Like, a little box that could convert my voice into a signal and send it to my FLGS who would have a similar magical device that could decode it. Science, get on it! Not only does my FLGS have such a device, they also offer a 25% and I don't have to pay shipping. Even if I couldn't get the 25% the free shipping alone and the fact that I go there regularly means it would be a good deal.

My guess is that they shut the Facebook pages as they would compete with the new site for page views and costs to maintain both in labour and upkeep.

Pure guess but if you planned on charging for content wouldn't you want your only source of info to be behind your pay wall?

Didn't they quit social media before, when attracting bad press over Spots the Space Marine? Sticking their heads into the sand and removing all ability to comment seems to be their default response to any negative publicity

I wonder what (if any) scandal prompted this latest overreaction?

It's more likely that as people are speculating they're doing a site relaunch soon and the roles/responsibilities of the different pages are merging/changing, so they've closed in advance of that. I know we love controversy but if there had been one I'm pretty sure you'd have been able to read about it here.

Creeperman wrote:
Didn't they quit social media before, when attracting bad press over Spots the Space Marine? Sticking their heads into the sand and removing all ability to comment seems to be their default response to any negative publicity

I wonder what (if any) scandal prompted this latest overreaction?

There was no scandal on either the Digital page or the Warhammer World one, both of which I happened to check the day before. Both of them were a model of polite discourse.