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http://www.blacklibrary.com/faqs-and-errata.html

time of writing rulebook, wood elf and End times.


From the rulebook FAQ

Page 134 – Lords
Replace both paragraphs with: “You can spend up to 50% of
your points on Lords. Lords are the most powerful characters
in your army, individuals possessed of fearsome martial or
magical might.”
Page 134 – Heroes
Replace both paragraphs with: “You can spend up to 50%
of your points on Heroes. Heroes are lesser characters, not
as intrinsically deadly as Lords, but still worth a score of
ordinary warriors.”
Page 135 – Army Selection Summary Table
Replace “Lords – Up to 25%” with “Lords – Up to 50%”
Replace “Heroes – Up to 25%” with “Heroes – Up to 50%”
Page 162 – Spell Generation
At the end of the second paragraph, add:
“The Lore of Undeath is available to any Wizard.”
(see Warhammer Battle Magic: Lore of Undeath or
Warhammer: Nagash, available in digital format at
www.games-workshop.com)

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Space wolf and Tau ones too ......


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super heavy walker Dts fixed too !

That's not an FAQ, that's a MASSIVE change in one of the fundamental rules of 8th edition...

Now that's interesting, they errataed the bloodletter crew on Blood Thrones and Skull Cannons to be able to smack people in 40k.

RoninXiC wrote:
That's not an FAQ, that's a MASSIVE change in one of the fundamental rules of 8th edition...

Agreed. This rule is sending the game back to the days of Herohammer.

About time they fixed the Dangerous Terrain tests for super-heavy walkers!

 BrookM wrote:
About time they fixed the Dangerous Terrain tests for super-heavy walkers!

Totally!

.. if anyone from GW is reading this could you fix the Dark Eldar FAQ ? ta.

 reds8n wrote:


.. if anyone from GW is reading this could you fix the Dark Eldar FAQ ? ta.

Or, go back and actually release a decent FAQ for WHFB DoC from 18 months ago?

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
That's not an FAQ, that's a MASSIVE change in one of the fundamental rules of 8th edition...

Agreed. This rule is sending the game back to the days of Herohammer.

As long as rules like Steadfast & Step-up stay as they are, it's not nearly as bad the days of 5th edition.

Old school Herohammer was so craptastic because those killer characters easily wiped out any chances of reprisal attacks, and no Steadfast meant that even a million or so ranks would lose their gak and leg it home...
50% + 50% may be annoying to those of us who remembered the worst of the worst times, but between the more modern rules to keep infantry viable and the general drop in power of most magic items, I don't quite see this as the outright nuking of the game itself just yet.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
That's not an FAQ, that's a MASSIVE change in one of the fundamental rules of 8th edition...

Agreed. This rule is sending the game back to the days of Herohammer.

Yet another desperate bid to sell models at the expense of long term game health following on the heels of 6th and 7th cash-in editions especially the "unbound is the standard game" 7th edition.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
That's not an FAQ, that's a MASSIVE change in one of the fundamental rules of 8th edition...

Agreed. This rule is sending the game back to the days of Herohammer.

+1
While I think big kits are cool and I'm glad to see the community responding favorably to the End Times stuff I don't like the monster arms race that it's creating. I haven't played WHFB in a long time (and it may never happen again if my Brets get Squatted) but it seems to me that selling lots of kits like Nagash, Mortarchs, Glotkin, and Maggoths is good for sales it doesn't strike me as good for game balance.

They don't even list it as FAQ, but rather errata. Puts the arguests to bed, at least.

Sounds like Herohammer (which I actually remember hey!) but didn't End Times already do that? Assuming it's the 50% Lords/Heroes thing. I thought End Times already said that you could take 50% characters.

.. wonder then if we might see a repackaged starter set just with the new rules ?

It's what they did for 40k right ?

 reds8n wrote:
.. wonder then if we might see a repackaged starter set just with the new rules ?

It's what they did for 40k right ?

Pretty much as long as you include "borrowing" magic from WHFB.

 reds8n wrote:


.. if anyone from GW is reading this could you fix the Dark Eldar FAQ ? ta.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/Downloads/Product/PDF/Warhammer-40k/7th-faq/Dark_Eldar_v1.0_Oct14.pdf

They just forgot the .pdf at the end.

 GreyHamster wrote:
Now that's interesting, they errataed the bloodletter crew on Blood Thrones and Skull Cannons to be able to smack people in 40k.

They should do this for Seeker Chariots as they have crew as well as a rider.

WayneTheGame wrote:
Sounds like Herohammer (which I actually remember hey!) but didn't End Times already do that? Assuming it's the 50% Lords/Heroes thing. I thought End Times already said that you could take 50% characters.

There was a needless and pedantic debate as to whether the 50% Lords applied to "normal" games of Warhammer or just End Times games, as if it was a separate campaign. Now they are silenced !!!

Also, a whole lot more fundamental rules would have to change to turn 8th edition into Herohammer.

I'd also add that this is a good thing, as it lowers the model count and allow folks to get an army on the table a lot faster. Probably won't win any tournaments with such an army, but its still playable.

Experiment 626 wrote:
As long as rules like Steadfast & Step-up stay as they are, it's not nearly as bad the days of 5th edition.

Old school Herohammer was so craptastic because those killer characters easily wiped out any chances of reprisal attacks, and no Steadfast meant that even a million or so ranks would lose their gak and leg it home...
50% + 50% may be annoying to those of us who remembered the worst of the worst times, but between the more modern rules to keep infantry viable and the general drop in power of most magic items, I don't quite see this as the outright nuking of the game itself just yet.

Exactly. This rule really just lets the biggest of the special characters take part in 2400/2500 points, I'm not sure it will have too huge of an impact on many games. Cannons still insta-gib greater daemons, the magic phase still has random power dice that max out (Death magic continues to present a problem of course), Monstrous Cav are still better killers of units for their points, step-up still means units with any size to them can club heroes to death, etc.*

I am trying to think of armies that benefit overly much from this change, and I'm thinking it's armies that already spammed heroes or characters on monsters - Lizards for example, with stegadon-riders and skarvet spam. And what do tournaments comp the most often? Spamming Obviously Good Things.

- Salvage

*But change some of these meta-defining rules and yes, we'll have some issues. Cannons now do D3 wounds? Bloodthirster / Lord of Change Tagteam FTW! Ridden monsters now combine they stats with their rider? Double Dragons, gooooo! Casting dice now based on wizards and their levels? 3+ L4 mages for great justice!

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
That's not an FAQ, that's a MASSIVE change in one of the fundamental rules of 8th edition...

Agreed. This rule is sending the game back to the days of Herohammer.

I thought all of the characters were being killed in the End of times.

Thinking about it, I am most disappointed that it opens another avenue for Minhammer, where you take the bare bones of a legal army (characters + 3 units) and dare to call it an engaging game with anything close to tactics involved. All the rules benefiting deathstars already started this movement; the End Times errata just makes those deathstars bloatier and more top-heavy. Well, I suppose here's to the lowly sabretusk and his drinking buddies, the pack of warhounds

- Salvage

 spaceelf wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

RoninXiC wrote:
That's not an FAQ, that's a MASSIVE change in one of the fundamental rules of 8th edition...

Agreed. This rule is sending the game back to the days of Herohammer.

I thought all of the characters were being killed in the End of times.

Death is only the begining - several are not staying dead

 whembly wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
About time they fixed the Dangerous Terrain tests for super-heavy walkers!

Totally!

Agreed, giant 12" walker moving only at most 6 inches in terrain was bull

Too bad all official non-iDevice sources of the Lore of Undeath are out of print already.

 Maelstrom808 wrote:
Too bad all official non-iDevice sources of the Lore of Undeath are out of print already.

Can you buy just the lore of undeath spells for iPad? Because it said find it on the gw website and I see it not lol you can probably find someone online who posted the spells just typed out (I remember reading them somewhere)

As for the 50% lords and 50% heroes I garuntee that my hobby store won't use it. At least not for a while until he informs everyone of the update.

This WILL be house ruled amongst the shops here. It wont be downright outlawed but most of us will stick to 25%

RoninXiC wrote:
That's not an FAQ, that's a MASSIVE change in one of the fundamental rules of 8th edition...

Exactly!

Lovely. Now people will want to use Nagash at 2000 points all the time.

 Vulcan wrote:
Lovely. Now people will want to use Nagash at 2000 points all the time.

It's almost like that was GW's plan when they gave him that absurd points cost.

They devoted what, a whole 30 seconds, upload time included, to these? At least on the 40k end?

Really disappointed with how sparse these are.

As for Fantasy...I guess they *REALLY* wanted to sell Nagash kits. The change to Lords and Heroes is *massive* after being the way it was for 4 years...