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Yes to all of the above, through occasional trade (including within their sub-groups), frequent plunder, slavery when convenient and mercenary work as a staple. They're also racially diverse, not just in skin colour, but via sub-races such as RoR, C23, GW90's, OK, Mantican, RPE-Olley. Some forge and produce their own gear, others trade for it, some get it custom-made by dwarf or human artisans, still others scavenge. Here's the most recent group photo, which is a little out of date now. (Needs more ogres!)

What models are those giant wolves are they? They look cool.

They're GW's Space Wolves Fenrisian Wolves. Pretty cool models I have to say.

I think stars on his pants would look good, you couls use the same for the top as well or a darker colour.

Your ogre horde is looking pretty impressive. But from that photo of the group I feel you could use light colours on the Shaman to have him stand out from the crowd?

Maybe yellows and a little orange.

After some consideration, and with your point of standing out in mind, I think I'm going to go with fairly bright reds, though a little dirtied as well.

The first two figures in this update are a pair of the first batch of Squig Hoppers released by GW for 4th Edition WHFB, back in 1991-1992. WHFB3 (the "Oldhammer" edition) didn't feature Squigs in any form, and goblins were really just goblins. When WHFB4 came around with it's 40k-codex style army books, Goblins gained several subtypes in a properly-supported form, such as Night and Forest. I seem to recall mentions of Night Goblins predating 4th edition, so there's that. Night Goblins have kind of become the de facto subtype in more recent years as opposed to the more generic ones from WFFB3. Anyway, I really quite liked these models, and so I collected quite a few of them. One of these two was painted quite awhile ago (5 years? 10? Who knows!) while the other was started right afterwards and only finished last year. It was shown last year in near-complete WIP form at one point, but I never showed off the completed model.



As I've stated elsewhere - sure these Kev Adams sculpts look cartoony, disproportionate, and not especially realistic. But they do have real character. I'm well aware how often "character" is used as a kind of code/excuse for poor sculpting of older models, but here I really do mean it as a positive. These models might be a year or two out from "Oldhammer", but being from the Kev Adams run of goblinoids, they're Oldhammer and Old-school enough for me. More importantly, they're great models in their own right that still stand up well today.



The second pair I'm sharing today were both painted a long, long time ago. Back when I used to actively play WHFB, in fact! These are Bob Olley sculpts - Goblin Fanatics from his Iron Claw range circa 1998. Since they're painted in the colour scheme of Night Goblins, they'd have been painted during the early days of 4th Edition. As regular readers will know, I'm not an especially big fan of many of Bob's sculpts, and these are no exception. Still, back in the day you pretty much only had what was available - and this was it. No eBay, no internet shopping and mail order to GW from Australia was a rare and exciting occurrence. Especially for a teenager or young adult. You can see that the flame motif used on my more recent Night Goblin Fanatics goes way back, though. Because I am nothing if not imaginative and experimental.

With these models being real outliers of the "weird and random" part of the WHFB Orc and Goblin list, they don't really fit in to a KoW Goblin Army as the list stands right now. Hopefully with the "officially unofficial not-GW army lists" that are supposed to come out later on in the year, these guys will find a home on the tabletop again in 2015.

Looking good!

They look really good although make me feel old, last time I played WFB was during third edition

Going to make a come back though next year but via KoW. I'm slowly picking up models for a number of different armies.

I'm really looking forward to painting fantasy minis with my current painting skills.

This is going to sound weird, but what those gobbo's need is snot green bases.

They're simply oozing with good nostalgia.

Thanks guys. I remember those GW-standard green bases. Way too luminous for me, even at the time!

What's up next to be painted? I am always wondering what you will find in a box next

Next to be shown should be a set of 3 C23 Ogres from the late 1980's that I just (finally) finished the third man of a couple of weekends ago (just need to take the pics). Work is pretty full-on right now, so the only painting I've been dong has been on my lunch breaks - a half dozen or so more Night Goblins from the early 1990's - a netter, a clubber, a few more fanatics and also a goblin from 1986-ish that I've been unable to properly identify.

And here they are!
After last weekend, the latest unit of my old-school Ogres finally got finished, with the completion of "Bounty Hunter", who like so many other models I've been completing recently was started 10+ years ago. Without too much chatter, here they are:



As I said, this guy had been part-painted and in a minis case for some amount of time probably approaching 20 years - sometime around when the others were started and the initial ones were painted, in any case. I've kept as much of the original paint I started with him and worked on the rest. Still, I had one hell of a mental block to overcome in order to finish him.



Gutlagg here was basically finished years ago. I may have even shown him off on these pages before, but now his unit is finished, and he's been promoted to the unit leader. So hey!



This guy has a name, but he's usually just referred to as "Ogre Thug". There are two versions of this guy with just a small variation between them. This one has a small pouch attached to his chest, while the other has a small armoured disc. Since I somehow ended up with three of this guy, including both variants, I ended up converting two of them. One can be seen here, with the original mace head replaced by a hammer head and the spike on his helmet removed. The guy showcased on this page was originally painted in an embarrassingly garish scheme. (Yes, how he appears here is heavily toned down). His weapon mod was also embarrassingly bad. So bad in fact that I don't think I took any photos of him at all before reworking him. His mace head had been replaced with an Advanced HeroQuest (Or Dark World? Something like that, anyway) Ogre's Big ugly tree-club with a spike added to it. It looked awful. I ended up adding a Mantic Ogre's 2-hander blade to it, and it looks roughly a million times better now.



Here's the final, completed unit of these Ogres. I'm getting down to the last few of these old models now to paint and finish, which is both heartening and also a little sad.

I really do love your old ogres. Almost wish I could have used them for my ogre army. So much variation and character. I really like your different skin tones.

Have to choose the middle guy with the axe as my favourite. He just has so much attitude. Very fitting for an ogre.

What did you make the movement tray out of. It looks solid and I like the appearance.

Those old Ogres are sweet!

I like the old night goblin squig riders. The ones that I have aren't that old. Yours are pretty cool!

The aged ogres have a lot of character, looks like another great addition to your force

I made the tray out of plasticard and square plastic tube. Made a couple of them - they're pretty good, but I've found getting motivated to make any more of them is pretty difficult. I agree that Gutlagg the Executioner is a great model - that's exactly why I decided that he'd be the unit leader.

I've got some more old goblins on the go. If I'm lucky they'll start to get finished this weekend. I've just finished 3 Reiksgard who were sitting around for ages (and started another batch of 3).

As I typed this post up, I became aware once again just how random my output is. This is a result of too many models and a short attention span when it comes to painting. There's always something new and shiny that has caught my attention and taken it away from whatever I was already painting. Combine this with a propensity to regularly buy more models off eBay and other second-hand sources, and I've got way too many half-painted models sitting around. Now that I'm trying to engage with finishing these things, and only rarely allowing myself to start new models (mostly those that fit into an existing project, like the Moria Goblin Shamans and Captains that I found the other day) it seems that my output is even more random. Especially since I'm posting things as I finish them much more frequently, rather than holding them back for months or years till something is "finished" (though I'm still doing that as well - at present with the plastic Moria Goblins that are waiting on their commanders.)

Anyway.

For the past year or more, I've had a smallish pile of these guys taking up space on my paint desk. Bought from someone, somewhere at some stage (or eBay) they've taken up space for several years in their badly-half-painted original form. When I started getting into KoW, I planned to paint them properly, but was discouraged by the fact that I only had 10 of them (even my truncated units take 12 models) and worse yet - they're a mix of 2-handed swords and 1handers with shield. I've wanted to flesh them out into two full units for some time, but the prices of Reiksgard on Foot on eBay are, frankly, ridiculous. Well, this weekend, I finally had enough - I spent far too much on two lots of them (though both reasonably priced by comparison to the usual), and decided to knock a few of them out.

To start with and for ease of painting, I chose three identical models - and beyond that, I chose three without shields. Started on them Friday evening, finished them Saturday afternoon, and by Sunday the varnish was dry. Probably worth pointing out that I did a lot of other things over the weekend besides just paint these. Mostly work-related. Yay.





I went with red stockings since it's easier to highlight/shade than Black or White and more visually interesting. Also, I've got about a million Warriors of Minas Tirith in Silver plate armour with black leggings, and so I wanted to do something different, and a bit more "Warhammer". In short, they're nothing especially special, but they're neat and they're done - quickly.

This also marks the "official" start of my Empire Army, which I've been collecting on and off for a couple of years now. I can't see myself rushing into them, but as I finish a unit here and there they can naturally ally to others in KoW. Gondor would appear to be a natural first stop. Or perhaps one of my Basilean armies...

Those look great. Pretty much what you'd expect given the models but they're a solid offering along that vein and will look great ranked up.

Bright and colorful, everything is well defined. I likes em.

V nice - I am a sucker for those old Empire models.

I remember that one from the pages of the White Dwarf, I think he was part of Guy Haley's Empire army when they rebooted tale of four games, IIRC. He called him commander Pineapple Head.

Nice! I had no idea Empire used to have Foot Knights.

If you want a cheap way to expand the units, try Perry HYW Foot Knights. They're probably a little slimmer, but have the right kind of armour and plenty of weapons.

I think I have a twenty man unit with greatswords and a twenty man unit with sword/flail and shield. Thanks for reminding me of how awesome those models are.

Now I want to finish up my Empire army - Bogenhafen (Reikland). Very inspiring dude!

They came out really well. Love the gold touches.

Some of my favourite models

The Ogres and Knights look really nice, I like seeing random minis keeps things interesting.

The more classic miniatures the better as far as I am concerned. The Ogres are so characterful and you have done an exceptional job on them. The blending on the skin is beautiful.

Thanks! The last few weeks have been a bit of a painting drought. I finished some Warhammer gobboes last weekend, but it wasn't until yesterday that I got a chance to varnish them since it's been too cold to risk spraying for most of the week. I've got guests over shortly, but I hope to finish the bases tomorrow, so I can hopefully get some pix a bit later on once the PVA dries. I've got another 8 Fanatics on the go right now. Hopefully it won't take too long to get them done and dusted.

Another 8 fanatics? Have you found a suitable use for them in KoW?