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New D&D? Oh trollcrap, I'm in the middle of a campaign...

But if GW doesnt speed up, I may have my stuff finished before new orks arrive. Never thought I'd see that happening...

 Juvieus Kaine wrote:
Just updated the first post with a small tidbit from my friend

Woot... Hopefully another one for Pretre to put in the correct column.

New allies table has been leaked.

Now we are CTA with all Imperial armies, which is a big kick in the teeth for anyone who ran blood axes or wanted to field a force of looted vehicles.

Chaos marines are our only remaining AoC. No idea why the spiky gits get on better with orks than eldar or non-spiky humies, but whatever. It makes at least as much sense as the last allies chart.

Annoyingly, the spiky eldar are now more popular than orks. I guess looking good makes up for skinning your 'friends' alive.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
New allies table has been leaked.

Now we are CTA with all Imperial armies, which is a big kick in the teeth for anyone who ran blood axes or wanted to field a force of looted vehicles.

Chaos marines are our only remaining AoC. No idea why the spiky gits get on better with orks than eldar or non-spiky humies, but whatever. It makes at least as much sense as the last allies chart.

Annoyingly, the spiky eldar are now more popular than orks. I guess looking good makes up for skinning your 'friends' alive.

Maybe the new codex will have a more robust looted vehicles option.

I hope so. There doesn't seem to be much reason not to let us do that when allies are already a thing.

 Billagio wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
New allies table has been leaked.

Now we are CTA with all Imperial armies, which is a big kick in the teeth for anyone who ran blood axes or wanted to field a force of looted vehicles.

Chaos marines are our only remaining AoC. No idea why the spiky gits get on better with orks than eldar or non-spiky humies, but whatever. It makes at least as much sense as the last allies chart.

Annoyingly, the spiky eldar are now more popular than orks. I guess looking good makes up for skinning your 'friends' alive.

Maybe the new codex will have a more robust looted vehicles option.

Lets see... Battlewagon, Battlewagon with Supacannon, Taurox, Looted Wagon, Junka... I think we're good

The only army a real ork should consider allying with is orks from another clan, anyway.

Joke aside, I really would have like imperial army to be AoC. I guess we will have to go through the unbound road for that.

Meh, I like meself some monocodex-armies anyways so whatever. That Tau have a higher allies rating than imperium is really strange though. I think it's because they rolled all Imps into one faction and SoB or GK would probably not work alongside xenos...

This does hurt us. But what I suspect will happen is GW will release a supplement, similar to Farsight Enclaves or Clan Raukaan, which will open up our options for armies. I hope.
Though going on that matrix I'm not optimistic that they'll get that right.

Check that; Unbound. Hmmm.....

Well, Tau are not nearly so genocidal and intolerant as the Imperials, so I do like the idea of Imperials not really allying with anyone.

Does rather bugger up the allied in blood axes; but then all it actually means is that you need to keep your tanks off in a separate area, and if you don't then you suddenly start making animosity checks

I guess no bullgryn wall green tide then. :/

 JeffVimes wrote:
The only army a real ork should consider allying with is orks from another clan, anyway.

Joke aside, I really would have like imperial army to be AoC. I guess we will have to go through the unbound road for that.

On which note, I'd quite enjoy it if they put in a similar system to SM for the different clans, it would give an actual tangible choice other than colour, and would explain why we don't get any other allies.

I imagine Blood Axes supplement would be rather popular, so maybe we should look forward to it.

Speaking of looted stuff, I remember some remark in some Apoc book stating that Chaos player could basically roll anything imperial into their list as long as it has enough spikes on it. Now, that was Apoc (i.e. "sanity is for the weak"), but who knows, maybe GW will be generous enough to remember that move and introduce some rule for looted stuff. "Same, but BS2 plus roll on a table of vechicle orkiness traits" as an example.

Not too believable now that I'm thinking about it, but oh well.

I wouldn't be surprised if GW's stance on this is "Sure, you can loot anything you want, or lay Blood Axes, but that means you're fielding an Unbound army".

Looks like orks will have some kind of force weapon in the new codex and we only get access to Daemonology plus whatever race-specific powers we have. Bit disappointing, but not too shocking.

Santic Daemonology looks like it has some potential for orks. +1 to Invulnerable Saves will be very handy if cybork bodies stay the same or KFF becomes an invulnerable.

Daemonolgy confirmed? Time to start thinking about that Tuska model.

 Squidbot wrote:
Daemonolgy confirmed? Time to start thinking about that Tuska model.

If the new plastic mega armoured warboss kit comes out, I plan on turning into Tuska. I figured I would paint him red and give him horns.

Aprently this is in the new 7th edition rulebook.

Perhaps, the artwork for the new ork codex?

Rubs wrote:


Aprently this is in the new 7th edition rulebook.

Perhaps, the artwork for the new ork codex?

Only thing I'm gonna say is..


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!


Had to google Tuska. How would a Looted Helbrute work as a warped Mega-Armor Boss? Could be fun as a Bloodthirster.

 Gargskull wrote:
Shame about the battle fortress, always had my eye on that but could never afford one. :(

I finally cracked and decided to buy one (tax rebate FTW) and then realized it was off the site (this was months ago). Then, turns out a casual acquaintance had purchased one and never assembled it. He got a load of cash, I got a Battle Fortress.

While it looks like an easy thing to scratchbuild (and it probably would be), Forgeworld never really showed it off to its advantage. The cockpit is fully detailed. The engines are fully detailed. The interior of every level is fully detailed. It really is a lovely model, though it's honestly not really quite ramshackle enough for the current ork aesthetic.

I'm glad that Forgeworld is so successful with the Horus Heresy, but I'm very sad. The Siege of Vraks books makes it clear that Forgeworld intended on revisiting the orks at a later date to do material for the Blood Axes, Snake Bites, and Bad Moons. Since they are basically printing money with 30K, I think we might never see those (until Heresy stuff stops selling, at which point GW will probably axe Forgeworld, rather than letting them focus on something else).

Rubs wrote:


Aprently this is in the new 7th edition rulebook.

Perhaps, the artwork for the new ork codex?

Was just about to post this! I hope it is the cover, it looks awesome. It looks Orky, bad-arse, and screams WAAAGH! in your face!
The only problem I have with it is the Goff clan symbol, which is just floating behind the main Ork like a ghost, or some sort of memorial picture.

The allies chart is a big blow, but seeing as there were some rumours about a Blood Axe supplement, I think Orks might be allowed to ally with Imperial armies using it. Just make sure to paint your Boyz blue!

Rubs wrote:


Aprently this is in the new 7th edition rulebook.

Perhaps, the artwork for the new ork codex?

Awesome orky artwork. hope its not the dex cover though, or if it is, i hope they remove the Goff symbol.

Dat is ded propar!

 RobZie wrote:

Rubs wrote:


Aprently this is in the new 7th edition rulebook.

Perhaps, the artwork for the new ork codex?

Awesome orky artwork. hope its not the dex cover though, or if it is, i hope they remove the Goff symbol.

I think that the Goff symbol might be there as an "identifier" for the faction.

Fap fap fap fap.
Love it. But I agree, lose the Goff sigil.

God i hope thats the cover or its something similar. Exactly what I was hoping it would look like

Nice cover.

From what I understand from the other thread, we now have access to Force, Sanctic and Malefic.




I draw your attention, revered gentlemen, to Hammerhand; +2 strength. Hello. Sanctuary isn't terrible, either. The Vortex Power does us a world of good against MCs...

*brain starts leaking*

O man... Give us cheaper Kommandos. They were always my favorite models. I have no qualms with an all kommando army, with Snikrot. Unbound or Supplement. Lets do it.

My tribe are called the Boot Knives. Their glyph is a boot and a knife....

Those powers are amazing, I can see it now, armies of Weirdboyz, blasting away..

Thats a lovely piccy although for the front cover of a codex... is it normal for them to use an old image? (or even a new one that was just published in another book)
(honestly asking.. im not sure)