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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:21:23
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Hi Dakka,
I put some BOLS news on dakka, but this time, there are pictures and it seems real !^^
Here is the link:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/01/bombshell-gw-moving-into-toymodel-stores.html
GW is making models/toys like ww2 models in hypermarket, sold with glue, paints and colored plastic.
November 2016, age "8+".
Only "the most iconic": Space Marines and orks.
Well priced (19€ for the "strike team" , which is a Land Speeder, I guess, I may be wrong).
Manufactured in the UK.
Edit: more info
krushgroove wrote:UPDATE on the Build + Paint sets coming from GW later this year!
I've been to talk to the GW guys just now and spoke with the person who is the main contact that is listed on the flyer. GW *are* aiming to get into big-box, high/main street retailers as well as 'normal' model & hobby shops.
Box art is not finalized, neither are the actual contents, so the sprues, sprue colors and paint colors are subject to change. I was even asked if the sprues ought to be colored blue or green (I think they should). They're not aiming these sets at gamers or even 40K players, the guy I talked to reminisced with me about playing with his Airfix models fighting dinosaurs and getting blown up by Action Man howitzers. These are for little kids to spot next to the Airfix sets in hobby and craft stores and potentially bigger retail chains as well.
We asked if AoS/fantasy boxes will come and that will depend on requests and demand. Probably no new molds, they're looking at existing molds only at the moment. I don't know what that means for model choice or whatever, but tooling new molds would cut into the margin quite a bit, I imagine.
So that should answer questions about the sprues, setting, art, who they're selling too and what's in the boxes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:24:06
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Really good to see them at least giving this another go,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:24:42
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Another ?
This has already be done ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:29:18
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Uh yeah, I can't help but shake the feeling that this isn't real, as they're using art of models that are now long OOP and don't represent the models in the boxes, unless they've dug out the old Trukk and Bikes for nostalgia sake.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:30:14
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Nice to see a series of smart moves from Nottingham. It appears the idea of conducting smart business is no longer otiose.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:30:30
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Norn Queen
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Its a nice start point I supoose. None of the kits grab me as a "veteran" however. But then I suppose Im not the target audience
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Dman137 wrote:
goobs is all you guys will ever be
By 1-irt: Still as long as Hissy keeps showing up this is one of the most entertaining threads ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:31:30
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Also, the 'Ard Boyz sprue on display is from Assault on Black Reach, so if this is for realsies, this is just them recycling older material.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:35:23
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Regular Dakkanaut
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But no rules though. It would have been an awesome move to adapt the AoS rules to these few models. For the 8-12 yo market that would have been perfect.
But GW wants to be a model/toy company not a game company apparently.
At least Blood Bowl is coming back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:36:17
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Surely, there must be some kind of forfeit for this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:39:43
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Posts with Authority
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BrookM wrote:Also, the 'Ard Boyz sprue on display is from Assault on Black Reach, so if this is for realsies, this is just them recycling older material.
Nothing wrong with that, though.
I like some of the old material better than the recent releases.
Not sure if I believe this, though.
The Auld Grump
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:43:22
Subject: Re:GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I may pick up the Heavy Assault Team if it is the AoBR Terminators and the AoBR Dreadnought.
The SM bike looks to just be the regular kit done in blue.
I know of some people that will be happy to see plastic Deffkoptas again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:44:32
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Surely that old War Trukk must be fake. It's the Gorkamorka one, with Orks that are half the size of regular ones.
I also think this might be a futile effort if it is true, unless they're casting in worse plastic, these are going to end up even more expensive (or they'll be cheaper, and someone at GW will wonder why no one is buying regular Land Speeders any more...  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:44:46
Subject: Re:GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Seems the twelve year old's aren't buying enough, let's move down the age range a bit.
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:45:38
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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OMG NO!... Please, someone confirm that this is fake!
If this is real, this is a MASSIVE mistake on GW's part; even worse than Finecast. Releasing products like this to toy stores will devalue their whole product line from A to Z.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:50:40
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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oni wrote:OMG NO!... Please, someone confirm that this is fake!
If this is real, this is a MASSIVE mistake on GW's part; even worse than Finecast. Releasing products like this to toy stores will devalue their whole product line from A to Z.
Indeed
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:55:12
Subject: Re:GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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loki old fart wrote:Seems the twelve year old's aren't buying enough, let's move down the age range a bit. GW's managed to finally overfarm the 12+ age bracket for all the "Christmas and 2 Birthdays" kids. I give them five years until assemble-and-paint Superfinecast pacifiers! oni wrote:OMG NO!... Please, someone confirm that this is fake! If this is real, this is a MASSIVE mistake on GW's part; even worse than Finecast. Releasing products like this to toy stores will devalue their whole product line from A to Z. Devalue down to what they should be? What a great idea!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:56:20
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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BrookM wrote:Uh yeah, I can't help but shake the feeling that this isn't real, as they're using art of models that are now long OOP and don't represent the models in the boxes, unless they've dug out the old Trukk and Bikes for nostalgia sake.
Note that multiple boxes have "Mock Up" splashed across the front of the artwork. While I wouldn't put it past GW to put the old Gorkamorka trukk in the box, I think it's too early to tell anything for sure. Even the sprues shown could be mock-ups, using older stock plastic sprues that they still had laying around.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:56:34
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Why would GW shift into reverse with their box art though? It seems counter intuitive.
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 20:56:49
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Nice. Smart move to recycle their old Black Reach sprues, and if that ard boyz mob comes with a good amount of models it'll be a good starting point for people.
The one thing I'm confused about, is that they're "paint and play". Does that mean these are already primed?
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'I've played Guard for years, and the best piece of advice is to always utilize the Guard's best special rule: "we roll more dice than you" ' - stormleader
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:00:28
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I'm interested in how this is a mistake as some are saying. A big issue with GW is that with moving out of the malls (at least here in the US) is that they are solidly word of mouth for new people. However going into toy and model stores massively expands their reach. And they might be able to get into big box stores this way as well.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:01:33
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Maryland
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MrMoustaffa wrote:The one thing I'm confused about, is that they're "paint and play". Does that mean these are already primed?
If they're really aiming for that 8-11 age range, how many of those kids are going to bother priming models?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:03:56
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Hulksmash wrote:I'm interested in how this is a mistake as some are saying. A big issue with GW is that with moving out of the malls (at least here in the US) is that they are solidly word of mouth for new people. However going into toy and model stores massively expands their reach. And they might be able to get into big box stores this way as well.
I definitely agree, more exposure for 40k is always a good thing. Unless people *want* it to become even more niche/pricey?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:05:20
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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MrMoustaffa wrote:Nice. Smart move to recycle their old Black Reach sprues, and if that ard boyz mob comes with a good amount of models it'll be a good starting point for people.
The one thing I'm confused about, is that they're "paint and play". Does that mean these are already primed?
BOMBSHELL: GW Moving into Toy/Model Stores!
Posted by Larry Vela at January 27, 2016
GWbuildnplay-horz
Come see the new GW line of products rolling into toy and modelshops this fall!
images via Tiny Plastic Spacemen and Spikeybits Hobbies (Facebook) 1-27-2016
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Facebook user Chris Smith got these images at the Nuremberg toy fair. These pictures show a new line of Games Workshop “Build & Paint” kits that look to be aimed specifically at toy and model shops.
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Note the following:
Colored plastic, removing the base coating step for some of the kits.
Very small simple GW kits with few parts.
Paints, glue and brushes included.
Good pricepoint for all the hobby gear included.
November 2016 Targeted release.
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:07:32
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I got a bad feeling 7th is going to be the last version of 40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:07:32
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Are those Ork bikes the old school 2nd edition ones!?
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Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:07:56
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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loki old fart wrote: oni wrote:OMG NO!... Please, someone confirm that this is fake!
If this is real, this is a MASSIVE mistake on GW's part; even worse than Finecast. Releasing products like this to toy stores will devalue their whole product line from A to Z.
Indeed
Personally I think this is a wonderful idea. I don't think it devalues the product, I think it places it in line with the kind of price range they should be reaching (assuming that these are reasonably priced of course!)
This is the first, genuine move that GW have made to reach more customers, rather than shrivel into an ever smaller hole, in years. And, it might be a step in the right direction towards stopping the slide in sales.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:10:02
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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My first ever GW stuff was the 2nd edition starter set from Argos. Who knows how much money I pumped into them because of that chance find before they pushed me away with a promise to see them driven before me and to hear the lamentation of their significant others
For GW, more exposure is a good thing. They need more cheap, pocket money, impulse buy items in mass market toy stores.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:12:02
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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And PS - that art is fething awesome, and a far more evocative thing to fire the imagination (of both kids and adults) than a dull, photo-shopped picture of some painted minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:12:12
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
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Pacific wrote: loki old fart wrote: oni wrote:OMG NO!... Please, someone confirm that this is fake!
If this is real, this is a MASSIVE mistake on GW's part; even worse than Finecast. Releasing products like this to toy stores will devalue their whole product line from A to Z.
Indeed
Personally I think this is a wonderful idea. I don't think it devalues the product, I think it places it in line with the kind of price range they should be reaching (assuming that these are reasonably priced of course!)
This is the first, genuine move that GW have made to reach more customers, rather than shrivel into an ever smaller hole, in years. And, it might be a step in the right direction towards stopping the slide in sales.
It's the drop in perceived quality that bothers me. Seen the space wolf leaks,??
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Its hard to be awesome, when your playing with little plastic men.
Welcome to Fantasy 40k
If you think your important, in the great scheme of things. Do the water test.
Put your hands in a bucket of warm water,
then pull them out fast. The size of the hole shows how important you are.
I think we should roll some dice, to see if we should roll some dice, To decide if all this dice rolling is good for the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/27 21:13:14
Subject: GW new "build + paint" range, moving to models stores
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It's legit. I actually think its a good thing. Show 40k to the masses, only offer select models as the paint to build, never the full line. At the same time either stagnate the current prices of individual models, then heavily discount the models when bought in groups or armies, like the get started collections.
I Hope this tactic will also apply to their paint line, indiviudal bottle price stagnates, but then significant discounts when buying paint collections.
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