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Just an FYI that I will be cutting back significantly on my dakka time beyond updating this thread and swap shop. The tone of most threads just puts me off 40k and I'd rather avoid that.
So, if you spot a rumor in a thread that I don't catch, please post here with a link so I can add it.
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I thnk it's mostly angst over a new edition so soon. Things will settle down again a few weeks after it's out. I remember things being toxic around here when 6th came out, as I assume you do too.
Sinful Hero wrote: I thnk it's mostly angst over a new edition so soon. Things will settle down again a few weeks after it's out. I remember things being toxic around here when 6th came out, as I assume you do too.
Yep. And that's why I am avoiding it.
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Avian wrote: Well, he said "Giant Treekin", which is pretty much what a Treeman is. I think that's close enough.
That's what my thinking was. I'm not a big fantasy player though, so I rely on you guys to keep me straight.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Natfka: Space Wolf Rumors / Ork Rumors - May 2014 via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 It's going to be the greenskins, then Space Wolves. The Sons of Russ will be getting their own flier, and it's sitting in the warehouses right now.
Krazynadechukr 7th Edition Rumors - May 2014 496 pages. That is the new page count. Or so I'm told. New Psychic card pack 7 gbps new templates 11 gbps....
Automatically Appended Next Post: Starter Set Rumors / Blood Angel Rumors - May 2014 via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 There will be a Scenery Set suitable for the starter Set.
Limited Starter Set included Multi Part Sanguinary Priest.
Dark Eldar Rumors - May 2014 via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 the Haemonculi will be a big focus of the new book as the Wraiths were with the Eldar. There is a possibility of the models being a WD release initially. The Wrack kit doubles as a entirely new unit that focuses on chemical weapons.
The Bane have even more exaggerated proportions that looks like it can rip a Dreadnought to shreads bare handed, very cool.
The following new Haemonculi will be unleashed upon us all:
1) "Bane" type unit. Bigger than a Grotesque but smaller than a Talos. May be a new character. 2) New Plastic Wracks (5 per box, dual kit). Includes all weapon upgrades. 3) New Plastic Grotesques (3 per box). Includes all weapon upgrades. 4) Plastic Clampack Haemonculus.
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via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Blood Angels
-Captain with Jump Pack
-Tactical Squad (10)
-Assault Squad (5)
-Terminator Squad (5)
-Cybot with Multi Melta and Autocannon
-Sangunary Priest (with Corbulo option)
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Spoiler:
GW General Rumors - May 2014
I have had it confirmed more by what was not said and a slip up by a GW employee who will remain nameless that there will be no Games Day this year. Has anyone else heard more on this, the european ones certainly aren't going ahead.
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Mark Fritts - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Spoiler:
7th Edition Rumors - May 2014 So, last night someone from The Overlords Podcast group on Facebook posted these tidbits. Hopefully they don't mind if they're posted elsewhere. There's some interesting things to chew on here.
-- So Guys I heard from a pretty reliable source that got to sit down with the book for a few minutes here is what I can remember from what was said.
1. 4ed consolidate in to combat is in 2. If you fail to cast a power you can't cast it the rest of the game 3. Every unit including vehicles will now score 4. Unbound armies may not contest objectives 5. Lords of war are in 6. Escalation and stronghold remaine as they are now 7. Vehicles will be harder to kill the chart changes once more. 8. The book will come out in 3 options Art like warhammer visions, Fluff book, and one that only contains rules and that one is about as think as the current SM book. 9.difficult terrain is just -2 inches 10. Wound allocation has changed a bit.not super clear as to how. 11. D-weapons toned down but he was unclear as what that meant so from the sounds of it they will still be super ugly. --
Waiting on approval to join the group so I can get a real name. Edit: Got it.
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Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014 Late May - Warhammer 40,000 7th Edition Look for a 2 week release window with the majority of releases on week 1 (May 24th). Look for all the standard stuff we've grown to expect like the rulebook, templates, psychic cards, mission cards, etc. Week 2 will have a teensy amount of followup products.
June - Orks This is described as a beefy 3-week release window like we saw with Astra Militarum. Look for the Codex and at least 5 new kits (including both new double and triple combo kits, and clampack HQs), and psychic cards. There will be at least 3 new units introduced and a lot of old Orks models are going away forever as the codex shifts to almost all plastic in the wake of the new releases.
This takes us deep into the June, and look to round out the month with a 1 week break from 40K. could be WFB, Hobbit, or even Citadel hobby stuff.
Starter Set Rumors - May 2014 Blood Angels (suitably bedazzled) - Brother-Captain w/JumpPack - Tactical Squad (10) - Assault Squad (5) - Terminator Squad (5) - Dreadnaught with Autocannon and Multi Melta (?)
Extras - "Orkified" Aegis Defense Line (no gun) - Misc. small Objectives Don't be surprised to see the starter paint set change to Blood Angels.
Vague Stuff from Natfka Blood Angels Rumors - May 2014 via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 Be prepared for the Blood Angels update, its closing fast upon the release date. A few models have been reworked, use of vehicles, and weapons previously not in the codex will be getting added to the codex. We should be having a few of the new BA appearing before the codex is released.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Natfka: 7th Edition Rumors - May 2014 via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 These are in Australian prices Standard edition 140 Collectors Edition 360 Physhic Cards 16 Objective Tokens 12
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"Vague garbage from Naftka". Not even trying to hide your dislike of Naftka anymore are you? It is so vague as to be useless, but garbage seems a little harsh.
I don't dislike Natfka, but I dislike his methods. I updated it to 'stuff' instead.
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Granted, is it even worth adding? Blood Angels are going to be updated sometime! No date, nothing specific at all. Jus the usual "of course" things like a new unit, new weapons being added, and a cryptic "we'll see models before the codex is released!". Not trying to be combative, but go ahead and add me to the rumor tracker- Dark Eldar will eventually be updated, with new units, some units in plastic, and new weapon options!
Sinful Hero wrote: Granted, is it even worth adding? Blood Angels are going to be updated sometime! No date, nothing specific at all. Jus the usual "of course" things like a new unit, new weapons being added, and a cryptic "we'll see models before the codex is released!". Not trying to be combative, but go ahead and add me to the rumor tracker- Dark Eldar will eventually be updated, with new units, some units in plastic, and new weapon options!
We track 'Too Vague' as well, so it is important to keep track of.
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Larry Vela 7th Edition Rumors - May 2014 Warhammer 7th Edition: Price: roughly $80
Edition is presented in a new format, 3 hardcover books in a slipcover. Pagecount of all three is about 450 pages in total:
The Rulebook: @200 pages, only rules
The Grimdark: @128 pages - Fluff and history of the Warhammer universe
The Hobby: @114 pages - Full miniatures and hobby book. All splash pics, and intro to the hobby stuff.
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Kevin Rogers (slaede) from Daemons40k - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Spoiler:
I spoke with my FLGS guy who talked to the GW rep this morning. Not all of my questions were answered, but here is what I heard that is not something already all over the internet. This assumes the GW rep had his facts straight, and the FLGS guy relayed them correctly via the game of telephone.
Battle Brothers
Eldar/DE Chaos/Daemons All Imperium
All others were convenience, desperate or apocalypse.
No answer as to whether you can join units of battle brothers.
Psychic Phase
Roll a D6 and add the total mastery levels of all your psykers. You get that many power dice and your opponent gets that many DTW dice.
To cast a power, you need to roll a 4+ for every warp charge of the power you're using. So warp charge 2 = two 4+, meaning you'd need 4 power dice to have an average shot.
Your opponent dispels the power with a roll of a 6 on their dice. So the more dice they have, the more shots they get at rolling that 6 to cancel out that critical power. I was told that the mastery level of the psyker dispelling the power lowers the roll needed to dispel it. So a ML2 psyker dispels on a 5+, ML3 on a 4+. etc...
That is what I was told.
That seems wrong to me because Fateweaver, Eldrad and Ahriman could dispel anything on a 3+. More likely, I would think you compare mastery levels between the casting psyker and the dispelling psyker, and apply a bonus that way. This is conjecture. What I wrote above is what I was told.
What I also don't know is if there is a dice limit a psyker can use to cast or dispel a power based on their mastery level. I also don't know if you need two 6's to dispel a ML2 power. I assume you do.
You would figure Adamantium Will would give you +1 to DTW for powers cast at a unit with that rule.
Jink Save
Jink is a 4+, however it is no longer always on. You must declare a jink to claim it, and if you do so, it's snapshots only in the next phase.
Sweeping Advance
Unchanged. You do not consolidate into a new combat.
And that's all I got that's new! So you can go runtelldat.
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Blood Angel Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
-Clam Pack Captain in a 2nd Edition Golden Armor Design, armed with Combi-Melter
-Box with all options for the Predator (Baal, Detructor and Annihilator, new Melta weapon in Turret option)
-Honour Guard and Blood Brothers Multi Box
Blood Brothers have survived as members of the Death Company and turned back to normal Astartes, they are like Vanguard Veterans but more "BA-like" and with different weapon options.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just caught the Starter Set thing in the lower right corner of one of those pages. Yikes. That's a lot of falses.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I think I'll leave them for now though since several say September and it is possible they would update DV and then later release a new one in Sept. If I update them now, Vela and Natfka get about 20 Falses each though.
I did get Natfka for Beachhead Stygia since that indicated simultaneous. 7F
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Automatically Appended Next Post: Natfka Starter Set Rumors - May 2014 via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 The re-release of Dark Vengeance with the new Rulebook is only temporary
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I'm thinking that I will give it until the end of the year. Since we see the boxes release a bit after pretty regularly.
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7th Edition Rumors - May 2014
One more little rumor tidbit I heard from the same source is FMC's may no longer assault the turn they come down from flight.
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Natfka
Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
LATE MAY
40k 7th Edition
EARLY-MID JUNE
Orks
LATE JUNE
Ork Theme Apocalypse Supplement
EARLY-MID JULY
Bretons
LATE JULY
Chaos Space Marines Sets and Supplement
EARLY AUGUST
40k New Starter Set
MID-LATE AUGUST
Blood Angels
EARLY SEPTEMBER
Armageddon Apocalypse Supplement
MID SEPTEMBER
Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition
LATE SEPTEMBER - EARLY OCTOBER
Orcs and Goblins
MID OCTOBER
Fantasy Starter Set
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My sources are almost lock step with the schedule youve posted. Beyond that they say major releases for the coming year are (obviously with other smaller releases in between with the new pacing):
LATE MAY
40k 7th Edition
EARLY-MID JUNE
Orks
LATE JUNE
Ork Theme Apocalypse Supplement
EARLY-MID JULY
Bretons
LATE JULY
Chaos Space Marines Sets and Supplement
EARLY AUGUST
40k New Starter Set
MID-LATE AUGUST
Blood Angels
EARLY SEPTEMBER
Armageddon Apocalypse Supplement
MID SEPTEMBER
Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition
LATE SEPTEMBER - EARLY OCTOBER
Orcs and Goblins
MID OCTOBER
Fantasy Starter Set
Oct-nov - dark eldar
Nov-dec - hobbit (which ive heard will end additional development by May 2015, and support/releases for it will last 1 year past that), new scenery for 40k, including a crashed/destroyed land raider set piece, and the long awaited xenos scenery rumored to include a bunker each for eldar, orks, and tau. Each about the size of the small wall of martyrs bunker)
Dec-jan - Space Wolves, a Battle of Garm apoc supplement
Jan-Feb wfb beastmen
Feb-mar 40k necrons, wfb scenery "bridge"
Mar-beyond in no particular order - skaven, grey knights, high elves, sororitas!?, inquisition, empire
I added in the Natfka rumors since he is confirming them
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Release Schedule Rumors / Ork Rumors - May 2014
Orks Collectors codex will have a slipcase that will come with an artbook and a Ghazghkull supplement. The Ghazghkull supplement will be released at a later date.
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Puscifer Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014 Orks - June/July Blood Angels - August/September Dark Eldar - October/November Space Wolves - November/December GK/Necrons - Whichever one is first, January.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Natfka Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014 via an anonymous source on Faeit 212 There may be a supplement this fall dedicated to organized play. With 7th edition Foc really dedicated to the narrative style of play in the new rulebook, this new supplement will cater to pick up games and organize game play. In that regards, previous rumors of percentages and side boards are in as an alternate way to play the game. The timeline for such a supplement would be this fall before November. Also coming are more regular FAQ's once the new rulebook is released, but with very little interest in Erratas where rules or information are changed. It is felt that once the new rulebook is out, that more effort for FAQs is needed.
I've actually heard from another source that SW will be the end of this year or early next year.
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Voice of the Chaos Gods - Total rumors: (0 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
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Release Schedule Rumors - May 2014
via The Voice of the Chaos Gods
GW plans Events for an subsequently 30th Birthdays of Warhammer Fantasy. The new edition is supposed to be part of it. When exactly I can not say.
I "optimized" my release shedule:
LATE MAY
40k 7th Edition (as already official)
EARLY-MID JUNE
Orks
(New Codex and Models)
LATE JUNE
Ork Theme Apocalypse Supplement
(possible Invasion of Badlanding)
EARLY-MID JULY
Bretons
(Armybook and such things)
LATE JULY
Chaos Space Marines Sets and Supplement
(Legionary/Havoc/Chosen Box, old CSM Box remains)
EARLY AUGUST
40k New Starter Set
(DV Revised)
MID-LATE AUGUST
Blood Angels
(Vampires in Space! Codex and Models)
EARLY SEPTEMBER
Armageddon Apocalypse Supplement
(new and updated content)
MID SEPTEMBER
Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition
(Such strange things called "Rules)
LATE SEPTEMBER - EARLY OCTOBER
Orcs and Goblins
(Armybook and new gitz)
MID OCTOBER
Fantasy Starter Set
(Empire vs. the green Guys)
LATE OCTOBER - EARLY NOVEMBER
Dark Eldar
(yes... Codex and Boxes)
MID-LATE NOVEMBER
EMPIRE
(A book with rules and models to play them, possibly new state troops, the design studio hates the current)
COMPLETE DECEMBER
The Hobbit and Scenery
(it calles "HObbit" not "BObiit"!)
JANUARY
Possible Space Wolves
(Vinkings in Space! Only without rob stupid christians )
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Bret Rumors - May 2014
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
A little bird behinds the scenes has revealed to someone I know that
apparently Bretonnians are in July and will be getting a new book along
with...
Plastic duel kit questing/grail knights
Plastic knights of the realm/questing knights on foot. Have maces or swords
plus shields.
special rule for knights armed with maces confers a +1S
two clam packs with characters.
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Anyone catch any rumors this weekend? Ugh. Long weekend and I need to catch up.
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Okay, long weekend plus libxml/libfreetype/pixman explosion on my main internet machine.
I didn't catch any real rumors from this week. I got one Kroothawk one and then the rest is just WD and Natfka's silly Bret rumor that was shot down in the same thread.
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Here a set of rumours from a source that prefers to stay anonymous:
The new mid size stompa thing looks like a pregnant Deff Dread. Comes with various weapon mountings, including what looks like a KFF.
New Gretchin models, including a grot oiler.
New mega nobs, not plastic versions of the existing.
Big Mek in mega armour with some interesting KFF like add ons.
Big Mek in Mega Armour with shoulder mounted weapons, maybe SAG but doesn't look like it.
Warboss is similar to the remodelling of the Helbrute from Dark Vengeance, it looks like a reworking of the AOBR Warboss with an attack Squig
New Pain Boy with a kind of Narthecium cybork hand.
Flash Gitz (They look particularly awesome, very much like Freebootaz with loads of variation in the kit).
Big Gunz. Total redesign.
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Thanks guys for the support! And yeah, we'll have to wait on the starter.
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Ouze wrote: I have to say that I was originally sort of critical of this project but it has definitely evolved into a really invaluable resource. Great job.
I was very much of the same mindset but it has very much grown into something amazingly useful
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Ork Rumors - May 2014
Squidbot wrote:
New Dok looks to be nob sized. Quite likely a character. Cybork hand could be a PK but it has fingers. Well... scalpels and syringes.
Both look mono pose.
Those MANZ are the new ones for sure. Overall design is very similar to existing, but they're not the same models.
On the question about Big Gunz:
Squidbot wrote:
Looked to be 4 variants.
Ork Rumors - May 2014
Imagine devastator marines, but orks. Crazy guns, with other guns bolted on. Pirate hats, mohicans, cigars, waaagh banners with plenty of shiny bits.
I can't really say much more, shouldn't even have said this. The anonymous source Kroot posted a while back was me.
Seen stuff, and as an Ork player I am massively hyped for it all.
No idea what waves it comes in, or if some is for the alleged/debunked starter or what, but all the models I saw are beautiful.
Ork Rumors - May 2014
I think there are five configurations of Big Gunz on the way.
There may well be a larger meganob, with buzz saws rather than klaws. Possibly with Nazdreg/Specialist Big Mek in same box.
Theory; the new (Restyled AOBR) Warboss with Squigg could be Warlord Grukk as mentioned in the Dark Millenium book from the 7th set.
Mad Dok with Narthecium hand could be Grotsnik.
Ork Rumors - May 2014
New normal Grots that look to be parts of other kits.
Ork Rumors - May 2014
Yup. There's a model on the way with mega armour and KFF, seems we may be able to take both.
Gretchin Big Gunz have had a full redesign. Much bigger.
Ghaz, Snikrot and Kommandos aren't sold out. ANd I don't think they're getting redone.
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Ork Rumors - June 2014
via Weekender video on Beasts of War
new ork Formations inside the ork Dex and the stompa will be in the book.
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BoW Ork Rumors - Jun 2014
Formation - 'ork warband' - warboss, mek, unit of nobs, six boys mobs, one unit of grots. Gives Boss of the Waaagh! Greenskin Hordes and Stampede rules.
Boss of the Waaagh! Lets you re-roll your warlord trait if taken as a primary detachment.
Greenskin Hordes. "Evey unit with ten or more models in the detachment gains the Hammer of Wrath special rule... and in every assault phase in which is successfuly charges an enemy unit the dice rolled for it's charge range in ten or more before modifers..." The wording here is confusing; not sure if it means that Hammer of Wrath only works if you roll ten or more, or if there was another rule which got cut out.
Stampede! If the formation's warboss is your warlord, he can use his Waaagh! special rule each and every turn after the first. This implies that warbosses have a special rule called 'Waaagh!' which usually can't be used every turn.
Detachment 'ork horde'. HQ, three troops, elite, fast attack, heavy support, fortification and Lord of War. Gives Greenskin Hordes and Boss of the Waaagh! Not sure if 'elite, fast attack and heavy support' was meant to mean one of each is compulsory.
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Ork rumors - Jun 2014
Ork Buggies
BS:3 (Grot Gunners)
AV and HP unchanged
+5pts apiece
As wide as the Trukk model, but half the length
Ork Trukk-style tires
Hot-rod engine with oversized engine piping along the sides
Turret-gunner is seated behind the driver
Multiple weapon options including:
Supashoota (linked)
Rokkit launcha (linked)
Heavy Flamer (linked)
Big Guns
There is contradictory chatter about a "Flakk" anti-air option for the Big Guns
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