Space Hulk (Re)Release 9/2014 - vid and contents in OP

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**Waaagh 18**

I love the look and feel of my space hulk models. Just wish the expansions were hardcopy... Anyone know if you can print them up off the apple store?

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Sir Arun wrote:
I really HATE Claudio and Gideon!!!
I really dont get the concept of close combat in this game. Having genestealers smash regular terminators to bits in close combat in understandable. But if even specialized close combat terminators can't kill like more than 2 genestealers at best before kicking the bucket, while the average terminator kills like 10 of the buggers via overwatch before some unlucky move gets him ripped to shreds is proof that Claudio and Gideon are actually WORSE than regular terminators.

At least Lorenzo has the stormbolter so he's just as good as a tactical terminator with - I think - a bonus on his close combat weapon rolls

What do you think?

I think Gideon is actually ok for what he is, a termie wall. Put him on guard in a corridor and watch them fall. Claudio is ok too, as long as they're on guard they're good.

**Dryaktylus**

Breotan wrote:
Anybody remember the old Space Hulk Campaigns book? Does it still work with the current version?

Well, Delaying Action and Pitfall are missions from that book (don't know the new missions). The campaigns... hum... they all had the rules from Genestealer (i.e. advanced psyker rules and hybrids). So I guess you have to improvise.

**FacebookJunkie**

Right, I preordered mine to collect from local GW. I collected it on Saturday....and I haven't been able to open any of the internal callophne or clip the models off the sprues.....I just want to gaze at its beautiful heaviness.

**Quarterdime**

So if they found those genestealers on that Space Hulk six hundred and fifty years ago, does that mean they're older than the rest of the tyranid invasion? When did the Tyranids show up?

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

Quarterdime wrote:
So if they found those genestealers on that Space Hulk six hundred and fifty years ago, does that mean they're older than the rest of the tyranid invasion? When did the Tyranids show up?

Genestealers arrived long before the main body of the Tyranid Hive Fleets as a vanguard. So yes they/can be much older.

**Dr Mathias**

Which issue of WD has the Space Hulk content and extra mission?

I skimmed the thread but didn't see if this question has been answered. Thanks

**Sir Arun**

Dr Mathias wrote:
Which issue of WD has the Space Hulk content and extra mission?

I skimmed the thread but didn't see if this question has been answered. Thanks

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**Pacific**

Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Quarterdime wrote:
So if they found those genestealers on that Space Hulk six hundred and fifty years ago, does that mean they're older than the rest of the tyranid invasion? When did the Tyranids show up?

Genestealers arrived long before the main body of the Tyranid Hive Fleets as a vanguard. So yes they/can be much older.

Remembering also that this bit of background was written for 1st Ed. Space Hulk, which was well before the Tyranid -> Genestealer link thing got established in the background

**Herzlos**

FacebookJunkie wrote:
Right, I preordered mine to collect from local GW. I collected it on Saturday....and I haven't been able to open any of the internal callophne or clip the models off the sprues.....I just want to gaze at its beautiful heaviness.

I picked mine up as well and was so surprised by the weight that I nearly dropped it.

I'm not going to open it until I've arranged to play it though; just in case I go off the idea then I can still sell it on as NIB

**AllSeeingSkink**

If I ever make a product aimed at the wargaming community I'll just make sure there's lots of heavy stuff in it as that seems to make gamers happy

**Herzlos**

You should, it's a good way to make it feel more expensive.

I'm sure half of the weight will be the sprue/card frames that'll need chucked out after punching, but it weighs a lot more than Super Dungeon Explore for the same price, and that's enough to convince the mrs that it's a good deal

**notprop**

Most of the weight is the Card for the tokens/counters/board.

The plastic is light in comparison.

In all honesty you fellers should be playing the game not weighing it!

**Herzlos**

I intend to be playing with it, but I won't have time to even open it until at least November.

**Panic**

yeah,
Despruing the plastic and punching the card helps reduce weight massively!

I've had a quick check on the differences in the 2009 box compared to the 2014.Looking at the colour difference in tiles.

I also recommend the 'Space Clock' App for Timing your games.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/space-clock/id343187323?mt=8

Adjustable, Gives minute warnings and final seconds remaining countdown!!! hurry!
And looks the fething business..

Panic...

**Herzlos**

There's less dice in the new box? Does that mean we need less to play or are they just trying to save money?

I haven't played Space Hulk since I was about 10. We didn't really use the rules - most convincing killy noise won.

**Panic**

yeah,
No!
I just have 2 sets of dice from 2009. never thought to only show 5...

Panic...

**angelofvengeance**

Panic wrote:
yeah,
Despruing the plastic and punching the card helps reduce weight massively!

I've had a quick check on the differences in the 2009 box compared to the 2014.Looking at the colur difference in tiles.

I also recommend the 'Space Clock' App for Timing your games.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/space-clock/id343187323?mt=8

Adjustable, Gives minute warnings and final seconds remaining countdown!!! hurry!
And looks the fething business..

Panic...

It's funny you should mention that, the Space Hulk expansions have that sorta thing too although with a bit more gubbinz to it.

Observe..

**Talking Banana**

Can anyone bring me up to speed on the current Genestealer fluff? Do they still use ovipositors and "steal genes?" Do they still infect people so their offspring become Genestealer hybrids or something?

Or do they just claw people to death and that's it now?

**angelofvengeance**

Vermonter wrote:
Can anyone bring me up to speed on the current Genestealer fluff? Do they still use ovipositors and "steal genes?" Do they still infect people so their offspring become Genestealer hybrids or something?

Or do they just claw people to death and that's it now?

Bit of both. Though not really mentioned a lot now I think

**Panic**

yeah,

Panic wrote:
I also recommend the 'Space Clock' App for Timing your games.

angelofvengeance wrote:
It's funny you should mention that, the Space Hulk expansions have that sorta thing too although with a bit more gubbinz to it.

Very cool, how do you switch between that and the missions on the iPad?
GW should make this a free app!? or 69p...

I actually only use Space clock for tracking Time...
I don;t use its command point buttons and use the standard panel for those.
but this looks like it could replace the card panel completely

Panic...

**angelofvengeance**

Er nope lol. GW didn't think that far ahead I think lol. Saying that though you only really need to have it going during play so you could just switch it off in the Mission Status phase.

**Panic**

yeah,
I guess once the level is set, if you can remember the mission rules and/or objectives you should be ok...
or buy two iPads!

Panic...

**Herzlos**

Panic wrote:
yeah,
No!
I just have 2 sets of dice from 2009. never thought to only show 5...

Panic...

Ah cool. It's not as if I'm short of D6 anyway, I was just curious (and remember almost nothing about how the game actually works).

**jah-joshua**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Vermonter wrote:
Can anyone bring me up to speed on the current Genestealer fluff? Do they still use ovipositors and "steal genes?" Do they still infect people so their offspring become Genestealer hybrids or something?

Or do they just claw people to death and that's it now?

Bit of both. Though not really mentioned a lot now I think

Genestealers are still doing their thing in the Deathwatch novel, which is about two years old...
stealing genes all over the place

...
it's a good read...

cheers
jah

**Visceral_Mass**

I think Space Hulk is a great game and bought a copy of the most recent version, but I think GW "dropped the ball" on the way they released the "expansion" material.

I would have spent a stupid amount of money on an actual expansion or 3. As it is, there is no way I am paying the prices they are asking for rehashed material, in digital format, on top of having to buy figures I don't want, and to have to glue together.

Give us a proper expansion GW. One with new boards, new rules, and new snap-fit models of another chapter, cast in an appropriate color like the SH Blood Angel models.

**Waaagh 18**

Agreed

**Herzlos**

Visceral_Mass wrote:
I think Space Hulk is a great game and bought a copy of the most recent version, but I think GW "dropped the ball" on the way they released the "expansion" material.

I would have spent a stupid amount of money on an actual expansion or 3. As it is, there is no way I am paying the prices they are asking for rehashed material, in digital format, on top of having to buy figures I don't want, and to have to glue together.

Give us a proper expansion GW. One with new boards, new rules, and new snap-fit models of another chapter, cast in an appropriate color like the SH Blood Angel models.

I'd likely buy any expansion sets that were reasonably priced, as long as they were tangible. I wouldn't buy the digital mission packs even if I had an iDevice to use them on. I'll pick up the WD:W that contain missions though - £2.40 for a mission or 2 seems reasonable.

**angelofvengeance**

Visceral_Mass wrote:
I think Space Hulk is a great game and bought a copy of the most recent version, but I think GW "dropped the ball" on the way they released the "expansion" material.

I would have spent a stupid amount of money on an actual expansion or 3. As it is, there is no way I am paying the prices they are asking for rehashed material, in digital format, on top of having to buy figures I don't want, and to have to glue together.

Give us a proper expansion GW. One with new boards, new rules, and new snap-fit models of another chapter, cast in an appropriate color like the SH Blood Angel models.

All the Space Hulk models are snap fit.

**Visceral_Mass**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Visceral_Mass wrote:
I think Space Hulk is a great game and bought a copy of the most recent version, but I think GW "dropped the ball" on the way they released the "expansion" material.

I would have spent a stupid amount of money on an actual expansion or 3. As it is, there is no way I am paying the prices they are asking for rehashed material, in digital format, on top of having to buy figures I don't want, and to have to glue together.

Give us a proper expansion GW. One with new boards, new rules, and new snap-fit models of another chapter, cast in an appropriate color like the SH Blood Angel models.

All the Space Hulk models are snap fit.

Technically they aren't "all" snap fit. Some of the Genestealers are one piece minis,

Kidding aside, I know they are all snap fit, but GW is using those digital expansions to try and get people to buy the 40K Terminators from other chapters to play with Space Hulk. Those figures aren't snap-fit, unless you can purchase the Dark Vengeance ones separately. Please correct me if I am wrong, because I'd like to be able to purchase snap fit terminators if they are available by themselves.

**angelofvengeance**

Visceral_Mass wrote:
angelofvengeance wrote:
Visceral_Mass wrote:
I think Space Hulk is a great game and bought a copy of the most recent version, but I think GW "dropped the ball" on the way they released the "expansion" material.

I would have spent a stupid amount of money on an actual expansion or 3. As it is, there is no way I am paying the prices they are asking for rehashed material, in digital format, on top of having to buy figures I don't want, and to have to glue together.

Give us a proper expansion GW. One with new boards, new rules, and new snap-fit models of another chapter, cast in an appropriate color like the SH Blood Angel models.

All the Space Hulk models are snap fit.

Technically they aren't "all" snap fit. Some of the Genestealers are one piece minis, Kidding aside, I know they are all snap fit, but GW is using those digital expansions to try and get people to buy the 40K Terminators from other chapters to play with Space Hulk. Those figures aren't snap-fit, unless you can purchase the Dark Vengeance ones separately. Please correct me if I am wrong, because I'd like to be able to purchase snap fit terminators if they are available by themselves.

DV and AOBR terminators are pretty common on eBay or bitz sites from what I've seen. Don't think there's any Wolf Guard snap fit though.