Fallen Frontiers Kickstarter

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**Triszin**

Not the biggest fan of the PA, but the beserker elforc race looks nice. Happy to see an orcish race that isnt wearing junkyard scrap.

**Alpharius**

RiTides wrote:
I think if they just stick to resin, I'd be interested. The scale is a bit of an issue, though- they're just too large for me to use really. I wish them the best of luck with their relaunch, though!

I think the scale is 'set' at...whatever larger than 28mm heroic/32mm/35mm they've been working in since the start.

Point being that they really need to be VERY clear about the scale (with comparison shots!) and materials up front this time.

And they'll be OK!

Wild West Exodus and others have shown that 'odd' scales can work.

But it needs to be clear.

And they need to understated that it won't 'sell as well' (whatever that means) if it strays too far outside of the 'normal' heroic 28mm scale, for various reasons.

**shasolenzabi**

Alpharius wrote:
RiTides wrote:
I think if they just stick to resin, I'd be interested. The scale is a bit of an issue, though- they're just too large for me to use really. I wish them the best of luck with their relaunch, though!

I think the scale is 'set' at...whatever larger than 28mm heroic/32mm/35mm they've been working in since the start.

Point being that they really need to be VERY clear about the scale (with comparison shots!) and materials up front this time.

And they'll be OK!

Wild West Exodus and others have shown that 'odd' scales can work.

But it needs to be clear.

And they need to understated that it won't 'sell as well' (whatever that means) if it strays too far outside of the 'normal' heroic 28mm scale, for various reasons.

They sem to have gotten that from my posts at them, and they thanked me for that information regarding their scale issues

**Gallahad**

Triszin wrote:
Happy to see an orcish race that isnt wearing junkyard scrap.

And one that apparently knows how to weld, leaving rivets far behind. It is a bit refreshing isn't it?

**Triszin**

Gallahad wrote:
Triszin wrote:
Happy to see an orcish race that isnt wearing junkyard scrap.

And one that apparently knows how to weld, leaving rivets far behind. It is a bit refreshing isn't it?

It's the same reason why I liked the orcs from mantics dreadball game. I was dissappointed to see the orcs go back to their savage armor.

I like the Idea of orcs being a brutal savage race, in the sense of their tactics and armament Everything was made for a purpose, it wasn't made to look flashy or shiny or nice, it all looks basic and bland. nothing has embossing or flashy details. And if they have the choice they would not wear armor (not being likely 99% of the time)

**Alpharius**

Miniatures In Color 3 days ago

A game video is planned, I will see what I can do about some new pictures of miniatures, and try to get something soon of the final cast with a ruler for scale.

NEWS - Reported on FB Group. We are in the process of opening a US based distribution/warehouse that will carry the full line of Scale75 products including dual fighters and Fallen Frontiers. This process will also allow us to relaunch in US Dollars instead of pounds. Also shipping from a US based warehouse for all backers in the USA, Mexico, and Canada will help save on shipping cost, but we will also have a EU warehouse for all backers overseas as well.

The rules are being tweaked and worked on, we had lots of input and suggestions at GENCON, and we are trying to incorporate some of those ideas. A much better PDF with some printable cards so that you can actually play a demo game at home prior to release is also planned for launch.

Damon Prisk, you should checkout the new paint brushes Scale75 came out with they are very nice! also keep you eyes open for more awesome news in the next couple months.

**willb2064**

They are relaunching this in November on Kickstarter according to their Facebook page (on phone can't paste link). Material will be resin, scale will be 35mm.

**Alpharius**

Looking forward to it!

Fallen Frontiers
October 14 · Edited
Thursdays will be Press Release days, starting this Thursday October 16th 2014, and every Thursday thereafter.

Fallen Frontiers
October 7 · Edited
Hello Again, I wanted to inform you that I would be cleaning out the old Kickstarter post from this group this week so as to avoid any confusion with the new campaign about to get underway. I didn't want to just start removing post without informing you first. I will try and keep any pictures and informative post if they still apply to the new Kickstarter campaign. As always thank you for your continued support.

**plastictrees**

Neat. I'm definitely interested in this if they have all their ducks in a row this time (there was really only one duck causing problems last time...this duck analogy is starting to break down).

**Nostromodamus**

I give precisely zero ducks about this one.

**Taarnak**

Alex C wrote:
I give precisely zero ducks about this one.

And I give many...

They said on Facebook that there would be multiple pictures with rulers to show size this time. I'm personally ok with 35mm-ish figures, but I understand why folks aren't.

Definitely looking forward to the relaunch.

~Eric

**plastictrees**

That's definitely the only big hurdle for me. If I was confident that I could use their minis convincingly on the terrain I'll be putting together for Infinity I'd be less concerned.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Alex C wrote:
I give precisely zero ducks about this one.

Yeah, I'm with you. 35mm? Resin? Kickstarter? Thanks, but no thanks.

**gohkm**

35mm? Resin?

HELL YEAH.

**Alpharius**

I actually am quite excited by this relaunch!

If everything is clear upfront, I'm prepared to endure the almost inevitable KS waiting period +...!

**Artemis Black**

willb2064 wrote:
They are relaunching this in November on Kickstarter according to their Facebook page (on phone can't paste link). Material will be resin, scale will be 35mm.

I don't think they've actually come out and said they are 35mm again have they? Because that's what they said last time which was basically an outright lie, in the mini world if a figure's head is 40mm or more they are not in any way 35mm figures. Not even to the eyes.

The only thing I saw them say was a sidestep of the question by saying Wild West Exodus is "35mm" and they match their figures.

I'm still amused nobody has put a ruler in a single figure shot in all these intervening months

**Dentry**

Had forgotten about this one already. How fickle of me.

Like what I've seen since the last KS was terminated and am interested to see what a relaunch will have to offer. They better hurry, though, before other kickstarters come along and take my Christmas money.

**Alpharius**

What have you heard about upcoming Kickstarters that will compete for our tabletop gaming dollars?

Conan?

And...?

**Theophony**

Alpharius wrote:
What have you heard about upcoming Kickstarters that will compete for our tabletop gaming dollars?

Conan?

And...?

I'd be surprised if Mantic doesn't have one going at that time. It seems their business plan is to always have a KS going.

**Dentry**

Alpharius wrote:
What have you heard about upcoming Kickstarters that will compete for our tabletop gaming dollars?

Conan?

And...?

Nothing specific. I'm sure CMoN will have one out soon enough - maybe their pirate KS - and, of course, Poot's KD posts which seem to mandate tribute. But overall just a sentiment on catching our dollars before something else does.

**Zond**

If everything is clear up front and the same pledge levels are available I can see myself happily going for this.

**Alpharius**

Miniatures In Color 4 days ago

Howdy folks, in the next few days this Campaign will be removed from KS. As they prepare for the reboot. So if you are looking for news check out the Facebook Official page, ( https://www.facebook.com/Fallenfrontiers ) or check the new twitter feed for more info. @FallenFrontiers (https://twitter.com/FallenFrontiers)

Hope to see all the Supporters at the reboot!

I didn't think KS removed anything - but then, who knows?

From Facebook:

Fallen Frontiers
2 hours ago · Edited
Hello everyone,

Today we are proud to announce that Fallen Frontiers is coming to Kickstarter on Friday the 14th of November!

Make sure to share this date with all of your friends and back us on day 1 so that we can get funded quickly and start working towards unlocking a ton of stretch goals, getting you more sci-fi awesomeness.

Thank you all for your support!

**Siygess**

Hey, good luck to them. Personally I hope they do a characters pledge that offers.. well, all of the characters. For painters and the like

**Nostromodamus**

Why do KS creators seem to think holiday season is an awesome time to ask people for money? Wallets are stretched enough, especially in the US market.

Whatever, not like I was interested in this anyway. Good luck to them.

**Zond**

I'll try and squeeze this in, was hoping for 2015, but big chunky sci fi figures and I'm sold.

**Alpharius**

Agreed on the horrible timing - end of the year, near Christmas?

Ugh.

I'll give it a look, and hopefully EVERYTHING is clear right from the start.

Material, size, scale, etc.

I really liked what I saw last time around, so hopefully it is even better this time around!

**cincydooley**

Alex C wrote:
Why do KS creators seem to think holiday season is an awesome time to ask people for money? Wallets are stretched enough, especially in the US market.

Just give your kids less. You already give them room and board for free. Right? Right?

**Gallahad**

cincydooley wrote:
Alex C wrote:
Why do KS creators seem to think holiday season is an awesome time to ask people for money? Wallets are stretched enough, especially in the US market.

Just give your kids less. You already give them room and board for free. Right? Right?

Yeah, I wont even be giving them a look for this reason. I think that European game/miniature developers are not conscious of the holiday squeeze because the portion of the target demographic across the pond with families is significantly smaller.

**Nostromodamus**

Gallahad wrote:
cincydooley wrote:
Alex C wrote:
Why do KS creators seem to think holiday season is an awesome time to ask people for money? Wallets are stretched enough, especially in the US market.

Just give your kids less. You already give them room and board for free. Right? Right?

Yeah, I wont even be giving them a look for this reason. I think that European game/miniature developers are not conscious of the holiday squeeze because the portion of the target demographic across the pond with families is significantly smaller.

Americans also have Thanksgiving and Black Friday expenses at the end of November in addition to the usual wintry religious holiday of your choice.

Sure, the new world doesn't represent the entirety of the market, but it is a significant portion and one that should not be ignored.

**plastictrees**

Kingdom Death did fine at this time, as did Imbrian Arts (given its scale).
It's not going to work for everyone obviously but I don't think it a death sentence.