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 MandalorynOranj wrote:
Some of the things on that list were obviously fake. Eldar focusing on witchfire when their whole schtick has been seeing the future forever? Farseers being two wounds when they are the mainstay HQ? Actually, that's about it, the rest are pretty believable. I really hope Phoenix Lords don't lose eternal warrior though, it fits their fluff so well. If they do, then hopefully they have some sort of Exarch-regenerating power.

You mean like in path of the warrior? Touch an aspect of their shrine and POOF! You're alive.

 Gar'Ang wrote:

 MandalorynOranj wrote:
Some of the things on that list were obviously fake. Eldar focusing on witchfire when their whole schtick has been seeing the future forever? Farseers being two wounds when they are the mainstay HQ? Actually, that's about it, the rest are pretty believable. I really hope Phoenix Lords don't lose eternal warrior though, it fits their fluff so well. If they do, then hopefully they have some sort of Exarch-regenerating power.

You mean like in path of the warrior? Touch an aspect of their shrine and POOF! You're alive.

Exactly like that. I think that's the kind of rule that blends in-game power with "forging the narrative." It lets your powerful beatstick get back up and keep fighting if the right conditions are met, and encourages taking a lot of a certain Aspect with their Lord, which is fluffy since Phoenix Lords tend to attract large groups of their warriors.

 Redemption wrote:
That list from BoK is just pure wishlisting/speculating without any rumour source, he even states as much in his article:
http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/...-eldar-expect/

Basically he just made the entire list up.

Note that TastyTaste sometimes frames information as speculation, but it ends up being accurate.

Remember this post?

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/02/17/rumor-it-releases-daemon-rules-front/

And I think it's fairly clear that we can expect most 6th ed. codicies to be along the lines of CSM and DA. That "release list" from 18(?) months ago looks like a fake now, so we can probably forget about Black Wardens, Dragon Riders, Everguard, etc. The fact that someone invented that much content is fairly mind-boggling, but it is what it is.

 gorgon wrote:
And I think it's fairly clear that we can expect most 6th ed. codicies to be along the lines of CSM and DA. That "release list" from 18(?) months ago looks like a fake now, so we can probably forget about Black Wardens, Dragon Riders, Everguard, etc. The fact that someone invented that much content is fairly mind-boggling, but it is what it is.

I don't know about discounting all of those. Sure, we're definitely getting an oval-monster and a flyer, but look at CSM. They got Warp Talons and Mutilators, two new infantry units based on existing ones. DA also got their Knights. That leaves a decent possibility of a cc-Wraithguard, and if Warp Spiders do get their models updated, maybe the rumor of it being a dual kit with Everguard could see the light.

Eldar can get all the reinforcement they want they are xeno filth and the da will eradicate them!!! That plastic farseer is interesting I'm surprised its not finecast.

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Morachi wrote:
This bothers me a tad.... Update from BoK -

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/05/40k-rumors-eldar-tongues-are-wagging.html
Really classy of BoLS to take a random speculation by TastyTaste, delete the part where he says it is his personal speculation, and then present it as the latest rumour

BoLS? Unclassy and unprofessional? I'm shocked, shocked that they'd stoop so low.

 Redemption wrote:

So the new Eldar flyer will be a dual kit, making either a flyer called the Hemlock or the Nightshade. He also mentioned they somewhat remind him of a flyer from an anime show called Battle Fairy Yukikaze.

I would be really happy if we got sth like that.

 MandalorynOranj wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
And I think it's fairly clear that we can expect most 6th ed. codicies to be along the lines of CSM and DA. That "release list" from 18(?) months ago looks like a fake now, so we can probably forget about Black Wardens, Dragon Riders, Everguard, etc. The fact that someone invented that much content is fairly mind-boggling, but it is what it is.

I don't know about discounting all of those. Sure, we're definitely getting an oval-monster and a flyer, but look at CSM. They got Warp Talons and Mutilators, two new infantry units based on existing ones. DA also got their Knights. That leaves a decent possibility of a cc-Wraithguard, and if Warp Spiders do get their models updated, maybe the rumor of it being a dual kit with Everguard could see the light.

Fair enough...it's possible Eldar get something new other than the monstrous creature. I don't think they'll be anything specifically mentioned on that list considering none of the new stuff listed for Daemons and Tau were actually in their codicies.

No Warp Stalkers for Daemons
No Mako for Tau
No Spinewings for Tau
No Kroothawks for Tau
etc.

The Nautilus Defense Platform and Chaos Dark Chapel also look highly questionable, although those could always be WD releases or Apoc releases, so they can't be considered 100% debunked. Still, that list is obviously not holding up.

 Redemption wrote:


In relation to the new Wraith construct, he said it is called the Wraithknight and that it is very tall, large enough to look down upon current flyer models.

Whoa. That is pretty serious.

I'm sure it will be skinny, but still, that is one tall model.

I bet the Wraithlord drops to T6 or T7.

I hope they are in different slots. I really want to run Eldarzilla vs Nidzilla.. just because.

Seeing the Wraithlord get the Dreadknight/Riptide treatment seems possible.

 Shandara wrote:
Seeing the Wraithlord get the Dreadknight/Riptide treatment seems possible.

I would be fine with T6 and 2+/5++. I think it would be much better then now.

I'd be happy with t6 2+ wraithlords. I'd also be a fan of seeing wraithzilla, with the new wraith construct, wraithlords, wraithseers, and wraithguard with warlocks...


it's possible...

 Sidstyler wrote:

shade1313 wrote:
In fact, I can't think of any huge, oval based thing for DE that would seem right. It's one of those armies that such a thing just doesn't feel right, to me at least.

Plastic tantalus? Or some other large skimmer with a big gun on it, maybe.

Glad to see the new rumors are most likely bs, but I still don't expect much from the new codex. I imagine they might not end up being that far off in the end.

That's not something that I'd associate with the big, oval base, though. Really big (but still fast looking) skimmer, that I can see. The usual stuff that we're seeing on big, oval bases, not so much.

...and all in glorious plastic. Now just hope they don't screw up the sculpts on the wraithguard and we're good; if that wraithzilla is good it might actually be the first really awesome GW release since, what? Necrons?

 zachwho wrote:
I'd be happy with t6 2+ wraithlords. I'd also be a fan of seeing wraithzilla, with the new wraith construct, wraithlords, wraithseers, and wraithguard with warlocks...


it's possible...

Sounds awesome to me.

Hopefully there will be a way to get Wraithlords out of the Wraithknight slot. I could easily see one of them being shifted to Elite.

I am really looking forward to this release.

Here the original quote:

Best_Pone wrote:I'm not sure how to break this to you really. The Wraithknight... looks down on your puny flyers?

Talking of flyers, they do put me in mind of the anime Battle Fairy Yukikaze. I won't try drawing either of them this time though, as that didn't turn out so well last time

BTW I believe the name Wraithknight is correct, because it is the least imaginative combination of dreadknight and wraith lord.

Unfortunately, Best_Pone has a fairly decent record so far. :(

 Kroothawk wrote:
Here the original quote:

Best_Pone wrote:I'm not sure how to break this to you really. The Wraithknight... looks down on your puny flyers?

Talking of flyers, they do put me in mind of the anime Battle Fairy Yukikaze. I won't try drawing either of them this time though, as that didn't turn out so well last time

BTW I believe the name Wraithknight is correct, because it is the least imaginative combination of dreadknight and wraith lord.

Given that all of that style of Eldar walker have somewhat "ghosty" names (the various Wraiths, Revenant, Phantom...aside from the various classic Eldar Knights), they could have gone with names like Specter, Phantasm, Haunt, or, I hesitate to say, Shade.


Added: It would, at least, have avoided the "Wraithking" nickname that's sure to crop up.

 Kroothawk wrote:

BTW I believe the name Wraithknight is correct, because it is the least imaginative combination of dreadknight and wraith lord.

I lol'd

Wraithknight? Tall and spindly? Heck, I'm equally glad and disappointed it's not the Bright Stallion.

On one side, it'd have been a nice departure from the usual Eldar style. But on the other, last time GW went left-field we got the hellturkey, the chaoszords and the mopeds of Khorne.

Besides, things that cater to 40k veterans and depart from GW's established style are a Forgeworld specialty. If someone's to revive the Eldar Knights, let it be them.

 Kroothawk wrote:

@Scottywan82: Expect the new Eldar background to reveal the reason for Eldar being a dying race: They are dudes and crossdressing dudes, with all females killed during the fall.
Reason for the delayed Sororitas Codex? They are still working on an explanation, why all sororitas are also crossdressing dudes so that the sculptors don't have to learn how to sculpt female looking women.

HA! Amazing... at least we have clarity on the lack of a SoB dex now

I am a little saddened by the rumor jetbikes are no longer stock troops... I really hope this dex is not like the Chaos one, in the sense that there are too many HQ choices to fit into 2 slots.

So, could we expect pics thise next week of the one after that?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So, could we expect pics thise next week of the one after that?

Pictures are usually leaked in the week leading up to the White Dwarf release, which is on the last Saturday of each month. So expect pictures in about 2 weeks.

Man, expensive year so far for me. My main armies are Dark Angels, High Elves and Eldar.

Looking forward to pictures, whatever they may be.
I own the ForgeWord Revenant, so I hope it is at least different looking from that.

 Redemption wrote:


In relation to the new Wraith construct, he said it is called the Wraithknight and that it is very tall, large enough to look down upon current flyer models.

If that's true, my hopes aren't high.

I say this as someone who thinks massive models can be made to look good (Forge World can pull it off). But when I think of some of the recent big plastic kits I just picture this as looking like something you'd find in a toy shop.

 pretre wrote:
Unfortunately, Best_Pone has a fairly decent record so far. :(

What's the matter with that? Looks pretty cool despite the silly name of the source material:

 Brother SRM wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Unfortunately, Best_Pone has a fairly decent record so far. :(

What's the matter with that? Looks pretty cool despite the silly name of the source material:

The omg super huge mega walker looking down on flyers.

Why do we have to have a silly looking giant walker in almost every release now? Anyways, I really really hope we will see more plastic Aspect warriors... Hopefully all of them (I know, not gonna happen)...

 ergotoxin wrote:
Why do we have to have a silly looking giant walker in almost every release now? Anyways, I really really hope we will see more plastic Aspect warriors... Hopefully all of them (I know, not gonna happen)...

Especially since there is still lots of first gen finecast Eldar on the shelves.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
With all the talk of a big powerful lance weapon, I wonder if it will be this Knight model in 40K scale?

I painted those, blast from the past.

I like all the Eldar Knight designs, so would be happy with any of them. I hope it looks different from a Wraithlord scaled up a few inches, though.