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I've always been more of a Star Wars fan. I think I was too young/dumb/impatient to get into Star Trek as a kid. Whereas Star Wars had lightsabers.

The 2009 movie kindled my interest and the Attack Wing game exploited it. Now I am in full Trek mode, trying to watch things in order. I'm about halfway through the original series. It's campy, but considering it was made in the 60s, you have to respect it.

Right now, I'd still say I like Star Wars more... mainly because of lightsabers. Next year at this time, I may very well like Trek more. After episode 7... who knows.

I was always a Trekkie, however i appreciate the Star Wars Universe too.

DS9 is my all time favourite, then Season 3-8 of TNG, Star Wars Episode IV-VI

At one point in life, I would've answered with confidence "Star Trek".

However, the new movies, while entertaining, are not really what I liked about Star Trek in the first place, so I'm not sure I'm anything more than a casual Trek fan at this point in the evolution of the franchise.

Don't do Disney. Star trek all the way. TNG. Nuff said.

Star Trek has consistently better movies/TV episodes

Star Wars has consistently better toys and video games.

Can't speak to the quality of books or comics for either.

"Consistently" better movies?

You'd place Star Trek 5 over any Star Wars film? Insurrection? Nemesis?

Oh wait, I forgot the SW prequels existed. Even so, I think Trek loses there.

 Riquende wrote:
"Consistently" better movies?

You'd place Star Trek 5 over any Star Wars film? Insurrection? Nemesis?

Oh wait, I forgot the SW prequels existed. Even so, I think Trek loses there.

The prequels aren't that bad. You just have to watch the movies in the right order (4, 5, 2, 3, 6).

Of course to be fair, Trek doesn't have the Ewok movies or a Holiday special.

Star Wars has been ruined by everyone working on the movies or expanded universe since episode II was a thing. And Star trek has this thing where it has depth, but that depth never comes out unless you watch every episode ever, or read the books. Battlestar Galactica All the way.

stargate = D less soap opera then starwars, less camp then star trek

Actually now that I think about it...

Star Trek TNG states that humans will "evolve" beyond the need for money, or selfish motivation to work for the good of the collective whole. Picard has multiple speeches about it. That is easily the least plausible part of the Star Trek universe, that humans can achieve a communist society where everyone is happy. Also, the Trek-nobabble took me out of it, because they try to explain everything, which makes all sorts of inconsistencies, such as a weapon with a set output performing a task that is mathematically impossible to achieve with so little energy. Also, Warp 10 was originally instantanious speed, which they called Transwarp. Later ships have Warp 14 capabilities.

Star Wars prequels (shudder), and the re-releases of the originals (grimace) definitely hurt the franchise. George Lucas just didn't realize that most of what made his movies good, was what the other people working on it influenced. So when he started changing it to make it more like "his original vision" he was stripping away the very things that fans loved about the movies. Personally, I have trouble getting into the books. There's an entire series where the antagonists are just clones of Palpatine. 1: that removes the consequence of death from meaning anything. 2: that is lazy writing to just kill the same enemy over and over instead of coming up with a new unique foe, and being able to resolve a story without killing him/her so that foe can be a recurring villain.

Stargate... The original movie was fine, SG1 was fine, Atlantis was fine, but SGU was horrendous, far worse than the Star Wars prequels, far worse than the odd numbered Star Trek movies. It was a soap opera where dead characters re-appeared for no reason whatsoever, and every single character except Mathboy had a reason why I wanted them to get killed off. After one season, I felt the only way to redeem the series was if the Aliens killed everyone, and the rest of the show followed the Aliens adventures on the ship.

I think Firefly/Serenity is objectively better than the others. They have good internal consistency, the premise is not contrary to human nature, and they don't over explain everything. The story is well written, and they show they are able to have stand alone and recurring villains which fit the story.

Firefly, and Farscape are way better, but of the two asked, Star Wars..

Star trek : Enterprise and TOS are okay, for the rest they are way to goody two shoes...

If it hadn't been for those mindnumbingly slowed prequels I would have voted Star Wars, but they really ruined a lot of things for me.
So Star Trek gets my vote even tho I had a tough time chewing through the original series, mainly because of horribel acting and effects.

By the way, I never undestood the hate for ST:Enterprise. Anyone care to enlighten me?

It's a really tough call for me. I love the original ST and TNG (though not Voyager, Enterprise and those abominable Abrams monstrosities) a lot, but then Star Wars has always been a huge part of my life and, along with LotR, basically defined my childhood, so even though the prequels are a bit rubbish, I owe them a hell of a lot. Also Clone Wars is just amazing, everything I-III should have been.

So in words of Iron Man, 'I say, is it too much to ask for both?' Much like Marvel vs DC, I don't feel a need to stay one camp or the other, I'll just enjoy whatever I can from both.

I like them both.

Babylon 5.

Star Trek gives me hope for the future, while Star Wars makes me want to watch cowboy movies and read the Epic of Gilgamesh.

I loved Star Wars when I was 12 but somehow grew out of it, cant stand it nowadays. Stoormtroopers have ok helmets but the body armour is ridiculous, Vader looks like an s/m club member and dont get me started on ewoks. Palpatine is the only awesome thing there but he shares the universe with ewoks so meh. Ships are the saving grace, good designs like super star destroyer x wing etc. Also the movie is weirdly written not to mention incest, good music though and I loved the games, Dark Forces then Jedi Knight and ofc Rebellion, now that was something.

I tend to think the less Star Wars in 40k the better, thankfuly Rick Priestley doesnt even mention it as inspiration:

http://talesfromthemaelstrom.blogspot.com/2011/09/rick-priestley-interview.html

Star trek I tried to watch the ones with Pickard lately, good comedy not sure if intended. I understand nostalgia towards it though, didnt watch as a kid but hearing the opening theme takes me back 25 years, must have been on TV then.

Star Wars. It was such an intregal part of my childhood in a way that Trek never was.
Also:
Star Destroyers.
AT-AT's.
Princess Leiah kicking butt.
Scoundrels
Not a socialist utopia.
Female Twi-lek bounty hunter.
The entire last episode of season five of Clone Wars.

 MWHistorian wrote:
Star Wars. It was such an intregal part of my childhood in a way that Trek never was.
Also:
Star Destroyers.
AT-AT's.
Princess Leiah kicking butt.
Scoundrels
Not a socialist utopia.
Female Twi-lek bounty hunter.
The entire last episode of season five of Clone Wars.

Also:TIE fighters
Lightsabers
John williams
Darth maul
Tie fighters
Stormtroopers
Super star destroyers
And finally:The death star.And Tie fighters.

Plumbumbarum wrote:
I loved Star Wars when I was 12 but somehow grew out of it, cant stand it nowadays. Stoormtroopers have ok helmets but the body armour is ridiculous, Vader looks like an s/m club member and dont get me started on ewoks. Palpatine is the only awesome thing there but he shares the universe with ewoks so meh. Ships are the saving grace, good designs like super star destroyer x wing etc. Also the movie is weirdly written not to mention incest, good music though and I loved the games, Dark Forces then Jedi Knight and ofc Rebellion, now that was something.

I tend to think the less Star Wars in 40k the better, thankfuly Rick Priestley doesnt even mention it as inspiration:

http://talesfromthemaelstrom.blogspot.com/2011/09/rick-priestley-interview.html

Star trek I tried to watch the ones with Pickard lately, good comedy not sure if intended. I understand nostalgia towards it though, didnt watch as a kid but hearing the opening theme takes me back 25 years, must have been on TV then.

Vader is the man, Fett is cool only cool characters in Trek are the Babes.

jprp wrote:
Vader is the man, Fett is cool only cool characters in Trek are the Babes.

Dukat. Garak. Martok. Odo.

This is a really hard competition. Star Wars started really strong but faded as they transitioned into the prequels. Star Trek is a bit of a swing and a miss with some episodes being brilliant and some being about everyone tripping over their own boots.

In the end, I would say that Star Trek is able to bring the setting of the galaxy to life better. Star Wars has exciting wars and well designed ships, but Star Trek is able to explore a wider variety of emotions and situations. Even the cheaper series have their share of episodes that turn out pretty decent, for instance "Operation: Oblivion" of Voyager where the crew discover that they are duplicates of the real voyager and explore what is their purpose as they fade into oblivion. Star Trek explores genocide, effects of foreign occupation, ethics of terrorism, and what it means to be human, things that other series would not dare to approach. The original series pushed the bounds of gender and racial equality, putting coloured women positions of command and making it clear that Kirk did not care for race when he and Uhura kissed. Finally Star Trek offers a future of hope, a promise that mankind can pull itself out of the destruction of war subjugation and reach for the stars.

I would have to go with Star Trek

Star Trek Mirror Universe all the way baby

Star trek. I used to watch it a lot.

Both are settings with a sufficient variety of works by completely different creative teams that a broad comparison is kind of silly. Original works I think both are somewhat weak but I lean towards Star Wars there; Lucas may have handed us simplistic narratives burdened with excessive narrative baggage (After the message at the beginning of ANH R2-D2 exists to take screen time away from the action and resolve complications that spring up out of the blue just so he can solve them), but he kept everything entertaining instead of the preachy/dry gibberish the original Star Trek dissolved into. Setting-wise I prefer Star Trek; Star Wars is too heavily built on the idea of plot-armoured Jedi solving all the world's problems and one person's space magic making the actions of everyone else in the galaxy irrelevant, Star Trek goes into background and culture and politics with depth and eye for detail in a way that Star Wars never has, and leaves space for events to occur outside the scope of the protagonists doing things in a way that Star Wars doesn't. Best (or at least my favourite) works in both settings it's a toss-up, KotOR/TOR-canon and DS9 are both great for different reasons and in different areas, I don't think there's a fair way to compare them.

I grew up on Star Wars. And I'm excited for the 7th movie to come out.

I have to go with Star Wars. I do have to admite that for a really long time I hated Star Trek but recently I was forced to give TNG a chance by a friend and it really isn't that bad.... I can't stand the Shatner series though

Star wars.

Plumbumbarum wrote:
I loved Star Wars when I was 12 but somehow grew out of it, cant stand it nowadays. Stoormtroopers have ok helmets but the body armour is ridiculous, Vader looks like an s/m club member and dont get me started on ewoks. Palpatine is the only awesome thing there but he shares the universe with ewoks so meh. Ships are the saving grace, good designs like super star destroyer x wing etc. Also the movie is weirdly written not to mention incest, good music though and I loved the games, Dark Forces then Jedi Knight and ofc Rebellion, now that was something.

I tend to think the less Star Wars in 40k the better, thankfuly Rick Priestley doesnt even mention it as inspiration:

http://talesfromthemaelstrom.blogspot.com/2011/09/rick-priestley-interview.html

Star trek I tried to watch the ones with Pickard lately, good comedy not sure if intended. I understand nostalgia towards it though, didnt watch as a kid but hearing the opening theme takes me back 25 years, must have been on TV then.

Ewoks are one of the few things I hate about star wars.

Ewoks, Jar jar, horrible love scenes in episode 2, Anakin acting more like a whiny brat than anything, little Anakin's acting skill and a number of horribly designed aliens.

Mirror Universe Star Trek, it just wins